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  1. TDidymas

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    Do you mean this question: "So do you think of yourself as higher and holier than us? " If so, then how is it the same as what you did? Can you please explain?
  2. TDidymas

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    I'm not saying it's "just being faked." There is a difference between doing something wrong when you know it's wrong, and doing something wrong because you believe it to be right. What I'm saying is that people really believe what they are doing is of God, but it's not in reality. And just...
  3. TDidymas

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    I wasn't born yesterday, so please don't assume that I don't know what I'm talking about. I didn't say it was ONLY the 12 apostles, you assumed that. Acts 2:4 "And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. " Notice it says...
  4. TDidymas

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    You still don't get the point. You think (as the song says) it's about condemnation, but it's really about correction. So what? I also go to a loving church. It's not about judgments, it's about correcting the errors of the P/Cs. At least you're honest in saying you intended to nitpick and...
  5. TDidymas

    Do the Scriptures teach universal redemption or universal salvation, or do they teach both?

    I take your response to be saying, "yes, I do believe that we should have a legal relationship with God." Am I understanding you correctly? I certainly think I do, and my response to that is, that you simply don't understand the gospel. We're saved by the grace of God, not by obedience to the...
  6. TDidymas

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    I understand what you're saying, which might be some solution to the tongues problem. Unfortunately, it remains theoretical since it is not practiced that way (in my experience). There is always someone who pays no attention to being quiet, and since there are no rebukes or corrections coming...
  7. TDidymas

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    I disagree with your assessment of scripture on all 4 points: 1. It was a speaking miracle, not a hearing miracle. Various apostles spoke various languages, although it doesn't say whether they spoke at the same time or sequentially - it just says "they began to speak..." And it says the...
  8. TDidymas

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    You missed the point, taken your response. Jesus said that what the pharisees said about His works was blasphemy, did He not? So if you think that modern tongues is a miraculous work of the Spirit, then how can you say that someone saying it's not of God is not blasphemy? Can you please explain...
  9. TDidymas

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    I'm going on your statement: "regardless of the mere mortal commentators who believe themselves to be wise" Your post is directly after mine. If you are claiming you weren't talking about me and the OP, then I'd say you're dishonest, because your judgment is obvious. Whenever people cannot...
  10. TDidymas

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    So do you think of yourself as higher and holier than us?
  11. TDidymas

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    Are you then accusing me of doing the devil's work? You are acting as if your belief in this issue cannot be examined or evaluated. You are acting as if the movement you subscribe to is your "door" to God. Is this so? My answer to your question "isn't this the devil's work" is NO. But for you to...
  12. TDidymas

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    I would reply to the OP, but replying here would have the same effect. IMO the one thing that distinguishes the P/C (Pentecostal/Charismatic) movement is tongues. I realize the debate rages on, and very little is accomplished by it. I read MacArthur's Strange Fire and Brown's Authentic Fire, in...
  13. TDidymas

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    where is your "here"? what I said in my post, or somewhere else? I'm objecting to an assertion that claims a knowledge of what Paul was thinking, and I'm using the scripture to rebut the assertion. So if you have a specific question, it would be appreciated.
  14. TDidymas

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    Note your statement highlighted. The vast majority of commentators deem it means silent. Note John Gill's comment at https://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/1-corinthians-14-28.html Even when he says to "speak in a low voice," he concedes at the end that they...
  15. TDidymas

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    Paul rejoiced that the gospel was being preached, not that they were doing it in pretense. God has used (and still does) many wrong things for His own purpose, but it doesn't make those wrong things right. Worst case, God used Satan to test Job, in which God eventually edified Job through the...
  16. TDidymas

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    I understood you, and read it as "the eve of New Year's day 1901".
  17. TDidymas

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    Not sure I understand all your comments, as some of them are not grammatically correct. But every person has their own experiences, and if a person is not hurt by gross sin in their church, they tend to respect the people and the leadership therein. Just because someone is wrong in their...
  18. TDidymas

    Do the Scriptures teach universal redemption or universal salvation, or do they teach both?

    I think your idea here has some very serious issues with scripture. The whole nature of your narrative is a legal relationship with God. What I read you saying is that eternal life is obtained by doing good, obeying God, have right intentions, or whatever you call it, meaning it's a salvation by...
  19. TDidymas

    Definition of FAITH in the NT

    The trouble with "science" is that the conclusions people come to are based on ideology, not on what is observed. Observations are facts, but how one judges them is based on ideology or world-view. So, the atheist who fancies himself a scientist trusts only in his own opinion, which makes his...
  20. TDidymas

    Definition of FAITH in the NT

    You cannot have faith in someone you don't know, either. But usually, trust is given automatically to some extent. Why else can people generally be deceived and betrayed? Because they trusted someone untrustworthy. However, to have faith in Christ, you have to know something about Him, and...