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"Forked tongue" means double talk or deceptive, so your accusation is false. However, perhaps I did misunderstand you, and where you're coming from. If so, please forgive me.

Sounds to me like beating around the bush. So staying on point per the OP, I'm saying nothing against the baptism of the Holy Spirit as it is laid out in scripture. My problem is with how the phrase is used to today, to justify the error of the Pentecostal denomination. Words and phrases from...

What prophecies? Can you please list them?

Yet, Paul taught creeds, such as Gal. 2:20 and 1 Tim. 3:16.

I see you justifying the idea that if you haven't spoken in tongues, you don't have the Holy Spirit. Your response is a perfect example of people who think they have something that other Christians don't have. Do you also think of yourself as holier than those who have not received the same...

He was charismatic as it was 3000 years ago, not Charismatic as it is today.

Adam was not perfect in your assessment, likely. He was sinless, though, which meant that his will was submitted to God and aligned with His. But Adam fell out of God's direction and care when he sinned, and that was his own doing. So he was at first sinless, but not divine. When he was tempted...

Ok, but that's a rather cynical way to see it. I certainly would rather hear the Bible being taught by a true elder, than to hear some cult leader hand me a bunch of hype. So labels do serve a good purpose, as do creeds, because there's a swamp of false teachers that people shouldn't have to...

I didn't ask you to respond to that. But since you did, your response seems no different than others who get offended, and then write exaggerative statements as a griping rebuttal. It's simply added evidence that the modern tongues movement is a sacred cow, and has more to do with sentiment than...

I disagree with your spin on this as well. Yes, they all spoke in tongues in Acts 2 on the day of Pentecost. No, they did not all speak simultaneously, since it says "they began to speak..." They all had flames of fire on their heads, which did not ever happen again. The shekinah of the Spirit...

This is where our paths diverge, as I disagree with your interpretation. What I see is that you put your own spin on what it actually says in order to justify what you're doing. It doesn't say what you claim. It was a speaking miracle, not a hearing miracle. It clearly says the apostles spoke...

I hear you, bro. I take it you're talking about group rivalry that Paul was rebuking in 1 Cor. There ought to be unity among the churches. But the naming of the type of church it is besides location really is necessary in these days because of the disunity of doctrine. It indirectly lets people...

Yes, I understand what you're saying. I'm not demeaning everything in the P/C movement. After all, it was my family heritage and my Christian walk for 25 years. There is likely as much good in it as there was in the Reformed movement. I'm simply trying to address the tongues issue, and to say...

The personal affront is the sarcasm, as if to say I don't know what I'm talking about, which is the double standard I see in your responses. Did the apostle Paul ever say he knew better than other people? - 1 Tim. 1:7. In 1 Cor. 8:1, Paul mentions knowledge puffing up (the ego) in reference to...

I completely agree with this!! I completely disagree with this!! The main issue is that the reformers understood the scriptures much better, but the P/Cs often impose their own feelings, reasoning, and experience onto the scriptures they read. To some extent they judge the scripture rather...

I agree with much of what you said here. But the point of disagreement is what I said was the one thing that distinguishes the P/Cs from other denominations, which is tongues. And I'm not the only one who has a problem with it, there are many. I'm simply one who has studied the subject for many...

Since you posted this directly after mine, I take it you were talking about my post, in which I said: So your response begs the question, do you also see your relationship to God based on obedience to the law? (it looks like you do, given your response). Do you think a person is saved and gets...

Because you cannot answer the real issue, you resort to personal affronts. But to be sure, P/Cs impose their agenda onto scripture, and that's what the error is about. But because you think it's about condemnation, you'll never get it, but will keep arguing and being offended. "Scripture is...

The fact that you interpret it this way shows that your thinking is self-righteous. What I actually meant is that there are a variety of experiences, and we cannot judge what is right or wrong based on those experiences. We have to judge experiences based on scripture. But if you had carefully...