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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    And... 1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Jesus died for every individual, but his blood is only applied to the sins of those that believe that gospel. Why is this difficult? How do you interpret 1 Timothy 4:10 and many other like verses?
  3. J

    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Do you not believe that Christ died for every man? His blood was shed for every man, but only applied to those that believe. Do you have a problem with the following verse? Is Jesus the Saviour of all men? 1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in...
  4. J

    Predestination is misunderstood...

    The only requirement God has is to believe the gospel. Is that too much to ask to have Christ's shed blood applied to wash away sin?
  5. J

    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Paid for but only applied to the believer. It's just because they rejected the Just one.
  6. J

    Predestination is misunderstood...

    The word doesn't show up until Romans 8. Let's stick with the actual passages that contain the word. That's proper bible study.
  7. J

    Predestination is misunderstood...

    They were paid for by Christ, but was not applied because of unbelief. 1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
  8. J

    Predestination is misunderstood...

    No argument here…
  9. J

    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Always. He is the Just and the justifier of those that believe.
  10. J

    Predestination is misunderstood...

    They were servants of God bringing forty the seed. They were serving God’s purpose of Genesis 3:15.
  11. J

    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Words matter to God. The word is only used 4 times. Period.
  12. J

    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Why? His blood was shed for all sins, no matter the sin, no matter the person.
  13. J

    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Yes, the Lord's death was for every man's sins. But his sacrifice would only apply to those that believe. 1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    The promise seed would bring salvation. The seed line was coming through Abraham, Isaac, and...either Jacob or Esau. It couldn't be both. God chose Jacob as the seed line of Christ.
  15. J

    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Predestination is a plan of God. It is a future plan of God that has been given to those who have believed his Son. It is a plan to adopt and redeem the bodies of those that believe. That is bible. If you are in Christ, your destination has been determined! Your destination is for your body...
  16. J

    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Correct! Jacob is the one chosen to bring forth promise seed. He was not chosen to be saved. Because of his election, Esau, the elder son, would serve the younger son, Jacob.
  17. J

    Predestination is misunderstood...

    God's right to choose? Yes. But it's never in the context of salvation. God has chosen his Son, Jesus Christ, as the means for man to be reconciled to God. Man must believe the gospel of his Son to be reconciled.
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    First mention principle. Jesus Christ was God's elect to serve the purpose of reconciling man to himself. Isaiah 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Romans 9 11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) 12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. 13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau...
  20. J

    Predestination is misunderstood...

    I'd rather deal with the passages that actually contain the word. Using a passage that does not contain the word is not honest study.