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The biggest difference is about 150 years ... I loved this all over again

I think this story is apocryphal

I do not believe in Universalism, no sir. The wicked will be turned into hell and I am not ashamed of that doctrine. What I am preaching is the WIDER MERCY, this doctrine can set us free to admonish and to warn people that there is hell, a place of eternal punishment. There have been very...

I love the rapt expression on the faces of his audiences, I also feel the same satisfaction listening to this gospel. ... I am sorry he is a Pre- Tribber :)

resurrection unto judgement

I owe you an apology, I didn't intend to disrail your thread. Paul does say the Lord's coming to gather His church will come as a thief in the night. I tend toward post trib more than mid. I apologise. ... carry on

I read in another post that you do not believe the maidens to be the church. But that is the effect of cutting the bride out of the story.

In the parable of the sheep and goats Jerome is at it again. He reads the King will come and all His sacredos with Him and sit on His glorious throne. Now this word sacredos means holy ones, it can refer to saints or to the holy angels. But Jerome has already spied out the church in the...

so the handmaids are the church ... and the bride is the church

ummm ... that's the new Heaven and new Earth ... after the mill.

not in your bible, in more ancient Latin texts than Jerome she is there. And the Jewish custom was for the Groom to arrive with his bride to the wedding feast. Now why would Jerome omit those words "with His bride"? I'll tell you why Jerome was Catholic and the Catholics had decided to put...

yeh the loud bangs and fervent eat is after the mill ...

... behold a cry "the Bridegroom cometh with His bride" [ancient texts] the maids had time to trim their lamps. as opposed to a cry "the thief cometh with his swagbag" Paul makes no mention of loud bangs and melting away of the elements. Jesus spoke in terms of child birth, so did Paul, Paul...

I don't think ye'll run outa gas any time soon :giggle:

He took my place His life He freely gave He took my place a soul from sin to save He took my place upon the cruel tree He took the guilty sinner's place and I am free.

That is absolutely the way I see it. I doesn't believe the saved will be just a few straggly sheep on His right hand and BILLIONS of goats on His left. People say ah but "few there be that find it ... " I don't think Jesus answered Peter's question directly, sometimes He doesn't. "Lord will...

... like 2 old buses travelling to the same destination [glory] ... along different routes

I'm serious ... folks are saying salvation is the result of God's predetermination and election and therefore all others He must have pre=planned to damn. This is a presumption on Calvin's part [and incidentally what Arminius believed pre-destiny must mean] I think it is outrageous and ghastly...

I love you Pilgrim, do you know that ... But when I read your posts I know I shall never win an argument with you.:)

Rather show one biblical quote that shows predestination and election applies to salvation per se. For those whom He foreknew He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son that He might be the first born among many brethren , called ... justified ... glorified even as He chose...