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    How to love your family, when God hates the nonelects?

    Who mentioned 144000? Are you a JW?
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    How to love your family, when God hates the nonelects?

    Titus 1 16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
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    How to love your family, when God hates the nonelects?

    My friend, I cannot read your heart, but I can read your post! Jesus and the Apostles, and prophets all taught what is described as Calvinism. So I would be reluctant if I were you to boast of your scoffing of these truths, when you do not understand or cannot present these truths. The truth...
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    How to love your family, when God hates the nonelects?

    You say you have, but I am sure all you will offer is caricatures and strawmen. Prove me wrong!
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    How to love your family, when God hates the nonelects?

    Do you dispute what Paul is saying?
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    How to love your family, when God hates the nonelects?

    Did you have trouble reading the link which was very clear? let's try a smaller portion of scripture. 3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: 4 Whereby are given unto...
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    How to love your family, when God hates the nonelects?

    Hello HIH, There is no lying when you stick to bible truth! I tell sinners what Jesus declared. All that The Father has given to Jesus, are going to come to him. No more, no less, Then I ask them if they have come to Jesus yet. There is no discussion of any list. We know God has elected a...
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    How to love your family, when God hates the nonelects?

    We could quote the whole Bible for context. These truths are for all people for all time. No need to fragment scripture to avoid the truth. You cannot answer this can you? here I will give you another one you cannot respond to.Heb2: 11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are...
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    How to love your family, when God hates the nonelects?

    You cannot explain it, because you have not really studied it out.I did not ask you if you could quote wilipedia
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    How to love your family, when God hates the nonelects?

    A false believer is described in the bible in several places. here is one that is very clear: 1Cor15: 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I...
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    How to love your family, when God hates the nonelects?

    I do not lie and tell them that Jesus died for them, or Jesus loves them. I can tell them biblically That the Lord Jesus Christ has died for sinners. I can tell them that the love of God is only found IN CHRIST, not apart from Him. To remain apart from Jesus is to remain in the realm of...
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    How to love your family, when God hates the nonelects?

    Everyone believing, and continuing on in a state of belief by a God given faith are one of the elect. Those who mock and scoff at the biblical doctrine of election are spoken of in scripture as ..UNBELIEVERS.
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    How to love your family, when God hates the nonelects?

    Chapter 18: Of the Assurance of Grace and Salvation 1._____ Although temporary believers, and other unregenerate men, may vainly deceive themselves with false hopes and carnal presumptions of being in the favour of God and state of salvation, which hope of theirs shall perish; yet such as truly...
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    How to love your family, when God hates the nonelects?

    Chapter 17 Of the Perseverance of the Saints 1 Those whom God hath accepted in the beloved, effectually called and sanctified by his Spirit, and given the precious faith of his elect unto, can neither totally nor finally fall from the state of grace, a but shall certainly persevere therein to...
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    How to love your family, when God hates the nonelects?

    No my friend.That speaks of two direct quotes from scripture. Do you hate the truth so much that you will do anything to oppose it? Jn6 37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent...
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    How to love your family, when God hates the nonelects?

    What exactly is Calvinism? Can you explain it accurately.
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    How to love your family, when God hates the nonelects?

    The elect given from the Father to the Son, are unto salvation
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    How to love your family, when God hates the nonelects?

    The number of the elect is a number that is fixed and certain. It cannot increase or decrease. We do not know who they are ,so we preach to all men
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    How to love your family, when God hates the nonelects?

    Of Course Nehemiah would not know truth if it came and introduced itself to him.