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Didn't know God called out the USA to be His nation among all the other nations? I thought you had a bunch of founding fathers draw up a constitution etc. You must be very confused about your history if you think the USA is supposed to be a theocracy.

Strewth! Some mothers do 'ave 'em. Talk about holier than thou. I don't know you but you know me all so well. :rolleyes: You're comments are laughable. :ROFL: We were talking about politics and voting not ministering the Gospel. Get in context.

Maybe they should have stuck with common sense instead of their limited knowledge of the forces governing this universe.

It's not a random outcome, it's an unknown outcome. You can't just go throwing randomness into the universe and expect it to turn out the way you want. If we knew (or could control) beforehand all the forces applied to the the toss , directly and indirectly, we would know the outcome before the...

Bound by one Spirit. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

You are looking at Christ 's actions when He came to save the world. Start looking at His actions when He returns and you will see His ruling of the world is the true politics. Foreign policy will be done a little differently. Instead of trade embargoes, He will withhold the rain which, is way...

That doesn't make any sense. If you know it's illogical rhetoric, how can you be manipulated? You would be doubly foolish if, in the knowing, you were still manipulated. :confused:

What do you expect when Christians, who are meant to be the salt and light of the world, refuse to be involved in politics?

And some how that changes what the Democrats spoke about? There is no such thing as a "true" democracy for we are not governed by the people having a say on all matters but we are governed by representatives who are freely elected by the people. Whether you are a Constitutional Monarchy like...

Except the Democrats message lost so it looks like you Americans aren't as big as idiots as the Dems thought. :)

Or they were looking for someone who would listen to their concerns and would act on them. Trump spoke about closing the border, cutting waste and getting inflation down and lowering the cost of living. Harris spoke about ... well, still trying to decipher what she was saying ... but generally...

Then you are not understanding what I'm saying.

You don't think God is in control? That things can happen without His permission? ps. in my world a ruler is a servant

The problem is, in all those instances, human decisions still took place. Joseph and Daniel etc. still had to be appointed by their respective rulers. None of them simply dropped in to place from out of the blue and I'm sure you don't think God suddenly possessed those rulers and made the...

Has it occurred to you that God may be using human voting to His advantage? Maybe the reality we live in is a combination of human will and God utilizing human decision to effect His plan. If not, we may as well make no decisions for anything for if God has decided all things directly, nothing...

I can assure you I'm not upset or put off in any way. :) I find it a laughable irony when others think love of country or nationalism is some form of derangement. Who do they think created nationalism? Acts 17:26 And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of...

That's because that's a society of one and He's King of kings and Lord of lords. :)

I attacked your ideas not your character. I have seen no scriptures in your posts to me except for the one that had no bearing on not voting.

What does that have to do with anything? Our faith doesn't prohibit Christians being involved in politics either and thank God because we could be assured of a constant supply of ungodly laws if that were the case. Can't put up a decent defense as to why you think it is a good thing to neglect...

I'm in Australia, so it is rare we only have two candidates on the ballot paper. Although the two party system dominates politics, we still have our options. We have a grass roots movement in Australia helping independents campaign across the country and they are getting elected. There's a...