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I already have. You disagree. The Lord will be our judge. So be it.

You twist what I say just as you twist scripture. So be it. You have been informed.

The intent was not to show the gifts had stopped but that 3 of the gifts would cease but as you have stated, you have no idea when that is to occur so how can you possibly argue they haven't? The word perfect is in the neuter gender. It is not speaking of a person. Why do you keep ignoring this...

I said that not him. He didn't use the quote function very well and his post got confusing. :)

The meaning of words are not necessarily established in the sentence they are used. Your comment is nonsensical. Words mean what they mean and context determines what that is if the word has several meanings. I don't need to exegete 3 chapters to know what a sentence is saying. When the subject...

That doesn't answer my question. Do you believe tongues will cease when Christ returns or some other time?

Clearly you miss the point. The "Perfect" is not masculine. It would have been very easy for Paul to write "but when the Christ comes", but he did not. The context is not Christ, the context is knowledge and prophecy. At the time of writing these things were imperfect, ie. not complete. When...

You said they will cease when Christ comes, at least that is what any reasonable thinking man would read from your text. So is that what you are saying or are you trying to be deliberately confusing?

But you just got through saying they will cease when the perfect comes which you think is Christ. Are you confused or trying to confuse the rest of us? :ROFL:

Your inability to comprehend what I wrote is fascinating. It is clear you don't understand the difference between being prophetic and being a prophet. I told you what the word of God says and you claim I'm saying what He can and can't do? He said they laid the foundation, not me. You're the one...

More food for thought ... Romans 10:17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Psalm 119:11 Your word I have hidden in my heart, That I might not sin against You.

I find it amusing when the presumptions of others are in error and sit back all smug thinking they know something when in fact they don't. :)

You are being treated like a brother in Christ. We've explained to you that the apostles and prophets laid the foundation of the Church and the Lord no longer appoints those offices today. You don't build foundations all up the building, they are laid once only. You have said you don't attend...

He gave me a whole book, not just a message. ;) :ROFL:

It doesn't negate, it puts it into context. Paul's message to those who think they can use tongues willy nilly or to bless themselves is ... grow up! 1 Corinthians 14:20 Brethren, do not be children in understanding; however, in malice be babes, but in understanding be mature.

And my point is they're being deceived. I can teach anyone to speak in the tongues (so called) of today. It is merely emotion put into sound bytes. The biblical tongues were actual known languages, although not known to the speaker. Christians sin but we wouldn't argue it is valid just because...

Quite the opposite, Paul's question anticipates one to have the Spirit if one believes otherwise why ask? If you know they won't have the Spirit, there is no need to ask the question. Only believers who do not understand the purpose of tongues will be deceived into thinking they have to speak...

That is the very thing Paul told us it is not for private use. 1 Corinthians 14:22 Therefore tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers; 1Cor.14:20&21 20 Brethren, do not be children in understanding; however, in malice be babes, but in understanding be mature. 21 In...

Are there? Where? I've never heard them. All I've heard is babble. Tongues are actual languages and they must be languages that can be understood by at least one of the hearers if there is no interpreter. They are not just sounds. Tongues are a sign gift. Their purpose is to point to...

Speaking in tongues was given to reveal to unbelieving Jews they had rejected their Messiah. It is no longer necessary today as Israel was judged for their rejection (the fall of Jerusalem) and now wait for the end times when the Lord will restore them. 1Cor.14:20-22 20 Brethren, do not be...