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  1. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    More misrepresentation of what I have said. Goodnight.
  2. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    How you jump to the conclusions you do has me confounded. If you can't understand what is plainly written within it's context, why bother conversing with you? We have been through the difference of innate goodness and being declared good. If you don't understand the difference or why it is so...
  3. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    No, you simply don't get it. Sin is the result of evil, not the cause. We are born wrong (sin nature in the flesh), we are not born evil. Evil must be learned just as good must be learned. This is why the tree could be in the garden. If Adam was innately good or evil, he would already have been...
  4. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    Oh please, they were human the same as we are. They learned the same way we did. You had no concept of right or wrong either when you were born. The difference is that we have an inner wrongness Adam, Eve and Christ never had to deal with. Until the Fall, Adam and Eve could only experience evil...
  5. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    It's what I was talking about.
  6. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    You're talking rubbish. I have not been taught Satan is correct.
  7. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    You don't know what I have been taught and you have consistently misunderstood what I have said so why should I take your word for it? What does any of that have to do with how one learns? They didn't become something other than human once they sinned. We all still have to learn the same way...
  8. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    You are asking them to understand the difference, it is not necessary. They only need the right information to act right. If you are approaching your Christian walk in the way you are demanding of Adam and Eve, you will not mature. You will never prove the word of God is true. First you must...
  9. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    But I have told you they make no sense to me. How can I answer that which is nonsensical?
  10. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    That's not why we sin otherwise all of creation would be wrong. They were no more compelled to sin than Christ.
  11. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    Which is why the truth lies in between the two extremes. :)
  12. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    Nor are yours. Have a nice day. :)
  13. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    You do understand a declaration is a telling, yes? The telling doesn't always have to come from a person. Just making sure we're on the same page. :)
  14. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    Please show me where I called you evil or I said Satan speaks the truth or I said God is evil. I don't accept your opinion, I want proof. I think the problem is you have an erroneous idea of how people come to know and understand. Knowledge and understanding is not innate. One must first hear...
  15. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    Here is an example of grace given and received. Do you think the servant acted like this? Did he boast of being free from debt and willingly forgive the debt of others? 2 Corinthians 12:9 And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore...
  16. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    I have answered this question in posts #1040 and #1028 You learn the same way you learn anything, by being told. Believe it or not, your choice.
  17. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    What has your question got to do with how a human learns good and evil? If you have a point make it. Stop beating around with 20 questions. So far, all you've done is side step with responses that have no bearing on what I'm actually talking about.
  18. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    It's like teaching algebra to someone who doesn't know how to count. ;)
  19. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    No, I learned morality by watching you commit sin. ;) :ROFL: I learned by trusting God's word as true and finding it actually worked. None of us are righteous by our own reckoning. We are made righteous through faith. Even Jesus, in His humanity, relied on the word of God to be made right. You...
  20. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    Too true. It seems to me some know they have been given grace but never learn how it is applied and end up failing to walk by means of grace, then they wonder why they don't overcome. C'est la vie. :)