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  1. Chris1975

    Interesting insight (John 3v36) OSAS take note

    Soggykitten, its not at all about getting someone to believe that their salvation is not eternal. It is that those who claim to have eternal salvation ALREADY but are continuing to live in their sins without repentance do not have it at all. Salation happens at the end. Justification happens at...
  2. Chris1975

    Interesting insight (John 3v36) OSAS take note

    Sorry only getting back to this now. You asked how this relates to OSAS. Well the OSAS believer (by and large) does not believe that anything can be done after first conversion and belief in the gospel, to lose salvation. They will say that if a person continues in sin that they will not lose...
  3. Chris1975

    Interesting insight (John 3v36) OSAS take note

    Two different words are used for believe in John 3v36. Using the KJV and Strongs concordance below: John 3v36 KJV 36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. Strongs: 3:36 He that believeth...
  4. Chris1975

    Eternal Security - Most dangerous words ever preached: Once saved, always saved.

    If you continue in the faith.... Colossians 1 v21-23a 21 And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled 22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight— 23 if indeed you continue...
  5. Chris1975

    Eternal Security - Most dangerous words ever preached: Once saved, always saved.

    How do you get to Roman Catholicism from this?
  6. Chris1975

    Eternal Security - Most dangerous words ever preached: Once saved, always saved.

    The law is written on the believers heart under the new covenant. Under the new covenant the Holy Spirit is put into us. The combination of the two, working together brings to mind those instances we are out of line. We repent based on His leading. If your conscience is clean, having obeyed the...
  7. Chris1975

    Eternal Security - Most dangerous words ever preached: Once saved, always saved.

    Repent means a change of mind A change of mind means a change in behaviour We are to be led by the Spirit, who convicts the world of sin and righteousness. Do not quench the Spirit.
  8. Chris1975

    Eternal Security - Most dangerous words ever preached: Once saved, always saved.

    All REPENTED OF SIN. Not all rebelliousness, unrepented of sin.
  9. Chris1975

    Eternal Security - Most dangerous words ever preached: Once saved, always saved.

    Sanctification means holiness. It means being set apart (from worldliness). For God's purposes. Now if you go ahead and think that living according to your own will willful sinful ways will inherit you salvation, you are sorely mistaken. Look at how the bible addresses those vis-a-vis...
  10. Chris1975

    Eternal Security - Most dangerous words ever preached: Once saved, always saved.

    And we can continue with this line of inquiry: Colossians 1 v21-23a 21 And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled 22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight— 23 if...
  11. Chris1975

    Eternal Security - Most dangerous words ever preached: Once saved, always saved.

    NKJV 1 Corinthians 15v2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you—unless you believed in vain. - so TDW look at the conundrum you have in this vesre then. If SAVED is a done deal and cannot be altered post initial belief then you have an interpretation...
  12. Chris1975

    Bible study - anyone?

    Welcome Kimberley. I hope you find what you are looking for. But be aware that there are a myriad of beliefs on the forum, and a good bible understanding is paramount before getting into debates. Otherwise confusion can follow. All the best on your journey.
  13. Chris1975

    Eternal Security - Most dangerous words ever preached: Once saved, always saved.

    If this self-same believer turns from righteousness and begins to walk in the way of darkness, and turns not from his ways, then there is no security. James 5v19-20 Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, 20 let him know that he who turns a sinner from...
  14. Chris1975

    Eternal Security - Most dangerous words ever preached: Once saved, always saved.

    The cross represents the crucifixion of the flesh. The works of the flesh are: Gal 5v19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: [d]adultery, [e]fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions...
  15. Chris1975

    Eternal Security - Most dangerous words ever preached: Once saved, always saved.

    Luke 9v23 Then He said to them all, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me.
  16. Chris1975

    Eternal Security - Most dangerous words ever preached: Once saved, always saved.

    Luke 9v23 Then He said to them all, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me.
  17. Chris1975

    Eternal Security - Most dangerous words ever preached: Once saved, always saved.

    Awesome question. Now let's hope he goes to the scriptures to see the answer...
  18. Chris1975

    Eternal Security - Most dangerous words ever preached: Once saved, always saved.

    @posthuman --- your own time would be far better spent actually picking up the bible and studying it. Daily. And pray the Holy Spirit teaches you. Your time spent here is actually not bringing you edification if you don't understand the above topics. This forum has too diverse viewpoints. Drop...
  19. Chris1975

    Eternal Security - Most dangerous words ever preached: Once saved, always saved.

    Luke 9v23 Then He said to them all, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me.