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  1. Chris1975

    "Not by works" - false!

    You have ignored the scripture. Address this first, and then I will answer your question. Fair?
  2. Chris1975

    "Not by works" - false!

    John 6v39 - it may be the Lord's will that none of them are lost. It may be the Lord's will too that people believe in Jesus. It doesn't mean that all will be saved. It doesn't mean that all will believe in Jesus. People have free will. This happened in the Garden of Eden...and is still...
  3. Chris1975

    "Not by works" - false!

    2 Peter 3 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be [d]burned up. 11 Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved...
  4. Chris1975

    Apostasy 101

    Worth a bump as I see many have not learned yet.
  5. Chris1975

    "Not by works" - false!

    And the verse before this....you know...for context... Colossians 1 22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight—
  6. Chris1975

    "Not by works" - false!

    There is opinion....and then there is scripture: Colossians 1 23 if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister.
  7. Chris1975

    "Not by works" - false!

    1) Your (collective) views are that you cannot lose your salvation. 2) Which means that if I confess and believe in Christ at any point in the past, AND THEN convert to a works based gospel, then according to you (collectively) I cannot lose my salvation. 3) So why do you preach AGAINST a works...
  8. Chris1975

    "Not by works" - false!

    We will soon find out.
  9. Chris1975

    "Not by works" - false!

    Oh but we have discussed plenty. What I posted above is very applicable to what Eleventh Hour believes. So when you address me as not knowing "Our" beliefs, you then automatically assimilate your and her views. Rather, you should say "My" instead of "Our".
  10. Chris1975

    "Not by works" - false!

    This is how we know if we are his children: John 8 34 Jesus answered them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin. 35 And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son abides forever. 36 Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed.
  11. Chris1975

    "Not by works" - false!

    And the Spirit he gives us, the Gift, who dwells in us, leads us in the following ways: Romans 8 8 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who[a] do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus...
  12. Chris1975

    "Not by works" - false!

    Great ! Nobody is questioning your commitment. But let the bible itself through God's Word (not Satan) guide you. And there are hundreds and hundreds of scriptures there for you, to guide you along the path of life.
  13. Chris1975

    "Not by works" - false!

    You salvation journey STARTED the day you believed. It is not yet fully accomplished until you pass from this world or are raptured. If you draw away (Heb 10v38) at any point and die in that state, your journey ends without salvation.
  14. Chris1975

    "Not by works" - false!

    I will argue like you all argue --- I believe in Jesus. Therefore I was saved at a point in time "back then". Therefore irrespective of whether I fall away from the faith now, or whether I NOW want to work for salvation, I CANNOT lose my salvation.
  15. Chris1975

    "Not by works" - false!

    Strawman alert.
  16. Chris1975

    "Not by works" - false!

    Why is it sad? According to your doctrine I cannot lose my salvation. You see, you can't have it both ways.
  17. Chris1975

    "Not by works" - false!

    OSAS = The Defence of the Sin Nature As opposed to picking up your cross and dying daily.
  18. Chris1975

    "Not by works" - false!

    The Rapture IS AS MUCH a "Judgement" as it is a "Deliverance". God is going to do an initial Sheep vs Goat sorting. Judgement BEGINS at the house of God. 1 Peter 4v17.
  19. Chris1975

    "Not by works" - false!

    OSAS = the Strong Delusion of 2 Thess 2
  20. Chris1975

    "Not by works" - false!

    All will be revealed shortly.