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    armenianism

    Yes, and I still have no idea what the man has said. I was replying to orchids post saying if you meet a Christian who thinks they could be cut off, you are most likely talking with an Arminian Christian. And so I was pointing out that I used to believe it and never read a single thing by the...
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    armenianism

    I've met a lot of Christians who, like myself, believed for a while that they could do something to offend God and lose their salvation. I've also seen many of them (including myself) change their mind on that as they came to trust God more and more. I thought I could be cut off and have the...
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    What does it mean to live holy?

    I guess I can think of a sort of example. I did some work for a woman. When I gave her the bill, she insisted that I was charging her more than I said I would. She wanted to pay me my wages for one day instead of the three days the job took. She said I hadn't made it clear to her that it was a...
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    Why does Eschatology divide the Church into 3 camps

    Oh...yes...but also I was talking about the verse it's appointed to a man to die once. And I said how I thought they were the two in the OT who never died....never mind. I'm hard to follow sometimes.
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    What does it mean to live holy?

    To me it just means to live your life as belonging to Him and not to the world (as you previously lived before you met Him.) It isn't a zap-you're-holy kind of thing. Your mind has to be renewed/changed on many things you were taught by parents, teachers and the world. You have to make choices...
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    Why does Eschatology divide the Church into 3 camps

    I'm not sure I would classify what the apostle said there as prophecy exactly, now that you pointed out to me what you did. He said it's appointed to a man to die and then the judgement. I'd look at it more as proof against any sort of reincarnation rather than prophecy. I shouldn't have called...
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    woman preaachers

    Oh...my pie cortex is deformed I think...
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    Why does Eschatology divide the Church into 3 camps

    Well, if it were me, I would look for one that presents all of the views eschatologically.
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    Why does Eschatology divide the Church into 3 camps

    I think you would have to present all of the different views.
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    Why does Eschatology divide the Church into 3 camps

    Could you even find all of the teachers needed for a seminary and have them all totally agree...?
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    Why does Eschatology divide the Church into 3 camps

    You mean you have to know exactly what you believe echatologically and choose whichever seminary agrees with you? Or do they allow differing eschatological views in a seminary? Will you flunk if you write a paper on a different view than the seminary claims all of its teachers believe?
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    Why does Eschatology divide the Church into 3 camps

    Actually, yes, you have brought up something I never considered or factored in to my equation. Thank you! It is true that Paul has said some will NEVER face that first death. And so, those 2 men do not have to die to fulfill prophecy.
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    Why does Eschatology divide the Church into 3 camps

    I think the best preacher would be the one who presents his own eschatological thoughts but that who admits that no one fully knows exactly how all of prophecy will play out because it is confusing to humans - partly because many verses go back and forth in time and partly because some things...
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    Why does Eschatology divide the Church into 3 camps

    I can see that Maxwell. If you are trying to teach someone a complete and systematic theological construct, and you are amillenial, those who believe in a pre-trib gathering will run into a problem with some of the scaffolding that is erected. And vice-versa. But surely this happens in seminary...
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    Why does Eschatology divide the Church into 3 camps

    These witnesses have great supernatural ability to make fire consume men and to withhold rain for a long, long time. I think they are the two men who have not yet died from the OT. :):) And so the scripture will be fulfilled that says it is appointed to every man to die once. They must die to...
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    Why does Eschatology divide the Church into 3 camps

    This appears to me to be a condensed version of the history of Israel, the birth and death of Jesus, and with the last part culminating in the last days, when God will once again lead Israel into the desert and speak tenderly to her.
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    Why does Eschatology divide the Church into 3 camps

    Yes, it reads to me as if the 144,000 will be protected. They cannot be beheaded. But no one can be so rabidly dogmatic concerning endtimes events that they condemn others to hell because they are "wrong". But there is one thing I do if someone brings up a verse that seems to throw a monkey...
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    Why does Eschatology divide the Church into 3 camps

    I believe our gathering together occurs before the tribulation. That gives 7 years for the marriage supper. I believe that some saints will become saints during the tribulation. I believe some will see family members disappear and will then believe what they didn't believe prior to the...
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    Why does Eschatology divide the Church into 3 camps

    I have my own take on how many times Jesus will come again. I think He will come two times...AGAIN! Just as they didn't understand by prophecy that He was going to be coming twice - once to die and another time to reign - I think God will be making this repeat over again and He will come once in...
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    Why does Eschatology divide the Church into 3 camps

    And if I DID see Him begin to descend, getting bigger and bigger as He came closer to earth, believe me, I'd get so excited I'd NEED a new robe!