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Okay, so you don't like his example and think a better one could be found? :D

The letter of the law is: don't shoot anyone to death. The law of Christ is: if you even have anger in your heart without cause, you have already murdered. I have not found that He allows me to murder but speaks with me about it and changes my mind from the letter to the spirit that gives life.

Surely you aren't calling the letter of the law, which kills, to be the same thing as the law of the Spirit in you/the law of Christ...

I don't think so...it may have been my first reaction too. I think he is rather talking about the possibility of getting lopsided by not taking with every verse, the verses that SEEM to contradict it...truthfully, we've all noted this, haven't we?

I wish I didn't have to go right now. I'd like to hear more of what you are trying to say before I rush to a kneejerk judgement...I'll be back to read later.

I do believe that the men and the talents shows that He expects a return. He wants to see fruit. But I also think the moment I think I am the one growing the fruit, that I have gone wrong...

I don't think that's his drift at all...I'd have to hear more. I think he is talking more about, for instance, the men and the talents. Or...being saved but as if through fire. (Who wants that?)

Yes...but it's definitely a process. Our minds aren't renewed overnight. We grow in virtue and knowledge.

I think, dino, that he is more trying to say that...like, for example, when someone runs with one verse but does not see the verse in tension to the one they are running with, and so they come out very unbalanced. You can listen to the church channels and see it clearly.

I cannot firmly state that no one after the deaths of the disciples has ever been raised from the dead. Some doctors have attested to this happening. And some of them say that while they can't explain how it happened, they still do not believe in God. Then again, some men claim to have raised...

You mean, sort of like...the men and the talents?

You gave me huge goosebumps CS1. :) IF you were in Md I would visit your church for sure!

The second thing that then grabbed us was that there WAS no law stating this. Are Gods' laws obscure?

Oh! HAHAHA! :LOL:

And then he told another man to marry a prostitute... Pretty sure I can come up with a few more. That's just the thing chester - what is clear to you is not clear to others. In fact, they looked into it more intently for the reason that it wasn't so clear and they clearly saw that it wasn't...

I was wondering when you'd see that chester! :LOL:

Gaaah! My gosh, I almost wish I'd never said it... I concede that it is possible to receive more than one gift/manifestation. (Paul himself is proof).I can't figure why God would do tongues that way instead of giving a third witness (the Spirit, the speaker, and the interpreter), but I concede...

As the deer pants for the water brooks, so my soul pants after you, This was the only verse I could find that talks about pants. It clearly states that only deer can wear pants. If you argue, you're arguing with God.

OH no, a woman copier and PASTER! No woman pasters! :confused:

But just so you know, I reported you for going to sleep before you gave us an answer...:p