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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    The gospel of Luke ... how about you? are you involved in a Bible study? I'm waiting for our ladies Bible study to start up again in September. .
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I listened to 3 of his teachings that I could find on the stated subject ... Martyn Lloyd Jones does not corroborate your belief in the 3 teachings I listened to. Perhaps he does in the book you're peddling ... I read what I could find online and in the foreword I read that he had believed the...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I did not misrepresent Martyn Lloyd Jones ... I merely bolded and underlined the point I have been making (that the sealing of the Holy Spirit relates to ownership). I copied directly from the description of the teaching given at the link. The exact same description can be found at the website...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Ephesians 1:13 indicates it is Holy Spirit of promise ... the verse affirms it is the same Holy Spirit as what was poured out on Day of Pentecost. Do you think believers today receive a different Holy Spirit than what was received on Day of Pentecost? I understand what you are saying...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    so you do not believe Paul was sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise from the time he was born again??? "his speech and actions" ... would that not be an "outward manifestation that authenticates an inward work of God" ??? and the unbelieving Jews who sought to slay Paul ... did they receive...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    My husband and I opened our home to group study for years ... I love small group Bible study. I love how God reveals the truth of His Word and hearing from others how God works in bringing us to understand His Word ... there is so much depth in Scripture. I was listening to the radio the...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I was not offended ... I understand communication in an online forum is somewhat challenging ... much more difficult than if we were sitting at a table with open Bible (and coffee and cookies :)). Paul is a great example ... the believers were afraid of him, doubting his intent. But when they...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    oh noooo!!! ... so sorry you lost your work. I participate in a women's Bible study group at church and when we're finished with a study, I like to take a verse we learned about and make a little framed artwork to put in our home or take to work. My little gifts are not as detailed compared to...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    :cool: ... love it!!! .
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    yep ... the stony heart is replaced with the heart of flesh ... and I'm learning a lot too!!! God is so good to us!!! Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    The seal also attests to ownership. I didn't just pull that definition out of my hat. I have provided you with Scriptural reference materials which state this truth. At the time we are born again, God creates within the born again one the new man. The old man (who we were in Adam) is to be...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I love these verses in Ephesians ... they are so rich and God will absolutely bring His promises to pass. Psalm 73:24-26 Thou shalt guide me with thy counsel, and afterward receive me to glory. Whom have I in heaven but thee? and there is none upon earth that I desire beside thee. My flesh...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I believe the seal is an internal working ... the inward man spoken of in Scripture ... the new man ... the new creation we are at the time we are born again. whether internal or external, the "sealing" takes place as shown in Ephesians 1:13 ... hear, trust, believe, sealed with that Holy...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I believe a person is sealed with the Holy Spirit the moment he or she believes the gospel of Christ which is the power of God unto salvation. Ephesians 1:13-14 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    :rolleyes: ... more accusatory nonsense ... Ephesians 4: 29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. 30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Do you believe the sealing of the Spirit occurs at some time other than when the believer is born again? The word "seal" in Ephesians 1:13 is translated from the Greek word sphragizō. Thayer's Greek Lexicon definition of sphragizō as used in Ephesians 1:13: τινα τῷ πνεύματι and ἐν τῷ...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Ephesians 1 provides the "fashion" ... Ephesians 1:12-13 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    nope natural man believes all kinds of stuff ... atheists believe there is no God ... pagans believe in many gods ... buddhists believe in buddha ... for the atheist, the pagan, the buddhist ... if they are taught the truth of the gospel of Christ, which is the power of God unto salvation...
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    Total Depravity

    I put the verses in the order based on the verb perfect / waw imperfect sequence and you said "No". Now you're saying that is what you were saying. I guess the only point we're in agreement on is that Abel did bring his offering "by faith" and Cain did not bring his offering "by faith". We...
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    Total Depravity

    Here is what you said (bold mine) which led me to believe you were saying Abel offered first ... then Cain offered later: I thought you were saying that Abel brought his offering which was accepted by God ... then some time passed after which Cain brought his offering which was not accepted...