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    Total Depravity

    right ... the way I see this perfect verb / waw imperfect sequence as it relates to Gen 4:1-5 is as follows: Genesis 4: 1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said 1-2 I have gotten a man from the LORD. And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper...
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    Total Depravity

    sad that some believe God is unfair ... :cool: that you are not counted among them! God clarifies whose ways are unfair in Exekiel 18. when they say such stuff, they "heard" it somewhere, believe the lie, and repeat it to others. God will not bring increase in the heart of those who believe...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Scripture is clear that the Lord Jesus Christ died for the sins of the whole world ... all descendants of Adam ... John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    :rolleyes: ... more of your accusatory made up nonsense ... you do know who is the accuser, yes? so? natural men believe ... the issue is that they either haven't heard the gospel of Christ which is the power of God unto salvation to those who believe in order for God to bring them to salvation...
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    Total Depravity

    Examples of God "doing something first": Psalm 19:1-3 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. Ezekiel 20:10-12 Wherefore...
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    Total Depravity

    ... right ... I should have put quotation marks around the words "we are under sin". I was responding to what another poster had submitted. My point in submitting Romans 5:12 is that it is not sin that passed upon all men ... it is death that passes upon all men because all sin. Romans 5:12...
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    Total Depravity

    Here is what I see in Gen 4:1-3: Gen 4:1: And Adam knew [Verb: Qal Perfect] and she conceived [waw | Verb Qal Consecutive Imperfect] and bare [waw | Verb Qal Consecutive Imperfect] and said [waw | Verb Qal Consecutive Imperfect] I have gotten [Verb: Qal Perfect] Gen 4:2: And she again [waw...
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    Total Depravity

    k ... just wanted to clarify that when you said "all are wirhout excuse" (Rom 1:18), you were excluding the "whosoevers" who believe the gospel of Christ (Rom 1:16). Interestingly enough, the wise men from the east (who were not of the children of Israel) saw something in "God's handiwork"...
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    Total Depravity

    Very nice ... I love those verses. One day we will stand with Job in new bodies and see Him with our own eyes :cool: 1 Corinthians 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. .
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    Total Depravity

    I believe the ones who are without excuse (Rom 1:20) are the ones who suppress the truth in unrighteousness (Rom 1:18). I do not believe the "whosoevers" who believe the gospel of Christ (Rom 1:16) are included in what is written in Rom 1:18-32. God's Word tells us so then faith by hearing and...
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    Total Depravity

    you are quibbling ... here is what I said: In a man-to-God scenario, no, you cannot "devise [your] own way". I believe there is only one Way to approach God and that is through the Lord Jesus Christ. When it comes to man-to-man I believe God has given us enough instruction in His Word for us...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    No. I have never stated "all mankind is going to be "saved" ". nope ... not when it comes to the verse we were discussing (Rom 1:16), Scripture tells us the gospel is the power of God unto salvation to those who believe. Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it [the...
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    Total Depravity

    For the most part, I understood that the offering was to be a blood offering and that the Cain / Abel offering related to the slaying of the animal to cover the shame of the sin of Adam and Eve. I also believe that Cain's offering was not by faith ... which is the manner God has instructed man...
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    Total Depravity

    I'm not partial to the term "devise my own way to express that faith" ... In a man-to-God scenario, no, you cannot "devise [your] own way". I believe there is only one Way to approach God and that is through the Lord Jesus Christ. When it comes to man-to-man I believe God has given us enough...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    so nice, Magenta ... .
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    Total Depravity

    In Hebrews 11:4 we read by faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain. In Romans 10:17 we read faith by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. In order for Abel to have brought his offering "by faith", there must have been a "word of God" he had "heard" ... even though...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    The redemption of mankind was planned before the world was created. The sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ is more than sufficient to cover all the sin of all mankind who lived in the past, who live in the present, and who shall live in the future. Slight adjustment to your stated dogma: a...
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    Total Depravity

    yes ... the Lord Jesus Christ ... the Author of eternal salvation Hebrews 5:6-9 As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him...
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    Total Depravity

    love this section of Scripture ... I love that God tells us we can know His love which surpasses knowledge (how does He do that???) ... reminds me of the peace He so lovingly provides to us. .
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    Total Depravity

    right ... I went back and re-read the post to which I responded. I thought you were saying that Adam's sin was passed from generation to generation and I wanted to clarify that Romans 5:12 states sin entered into the world through Adam ... but it is death that is passed upon all men because all...