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  1. Dan_473

    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    For that to be true, Catholics would have to believe that the true God wrote the Quran. I don't think they believe that.
  2. Dan_473

    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    If I understand your question, the answer is basically yes.
  3. Dan_473

    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    Well, if the translator thinks that Romans 10:2 is referring to Jews wanting to serve the true God, and if anyone who thinks that Jews want to serve the true God cannot be a Christian, then this version was translated by a non-Christian.
  4. Dan_473

    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    That's cool! Myself, I like to use a biblical formulation: I want to remind you of the good news I preached to you. You received it and have put your faith in it. 2 Because you believed the good news, you are saved. But you must hold firmly to the message I preached to you. If you don’t, you...
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    I believe you had asked me what Worshipping God in ignorance Meant. I think it would look one way for a greek person in Athens, another way for a Jewish person, etc.
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    The common people back then couldn't read Latin. I don't think there were other versions, there may have been some inaccurate copies in ancient Greek.
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    Thanks for your answer. Now, what I'm asking is as you read that version, what is your perception of what the translator thought? Does the translator think that the Jews really want to serve the true God? Or does the translator think that they really want to serve a false god?
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    Hi! Great to hear from you! Actually, the link is right there in the post you responded to. See where it quotes me as saying "Great! I was thinking..."? Just click on the blue "Dan_473 said:" right above that. It's actually the same thread that you are reading at this instant! Jackson I are...
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    Yes, Jews know about the Messiah from the old testament. But a partial hardening of their heart has occurred, it sounds to me like this was something God did. Romans 11: 25 For I don't desire you to be ignorant, brothers, of this mystery, so that you won't be wise in your own conceits, that...
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    Amen to God doing anything! Do we hear reports of Bibles being produced in Europe in the middle ages miraculously?
  11. Dan_473

    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    Thank you for the answer, but it's not quite what I asked.
  12. Dan_473

    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    I understand what you're saying, and I was thinking of any kind of disagreement in general among Christians. Two people meet here on Christian chat and they disagree on something. We assumed the holy Spirit would tell everyone the same thing. So if someone disagrees with us, and we believe that...
  13. Dan_473

    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    That particular passage talks about the Athenians worshipping God in ignorance. But it's probably easier if we think about how it relates to Israel and Jews. The same word is used in Romans 10:3 where Paul says they were ignorant of God's righteousness. The word for knowledge in verse 2 has...
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    I don't know about other languages in Europe, but I think the first translation into English didn't happen until 1382.
  15. Dan_473

    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    The people that could read Latin were already at work in monasteries making copies of the Bible in Latin, as I understand it.
  16. Dan_473

    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    I see. And regarding the translators of this version, as you read it, do the translators think Paul is referring to the true God or a false god? https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+10&version=NIRV
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    @Humbleservant777 Hi Humbleservant! You may be interested in commenting on the discussion Jackson and I are having about what Christians where to do in the middle ages, when Bibles were super expensive. Here's the latest post
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    I don't know. Do you know how to search a website? Of course, there is more Catholic writing than just the CCC. Do you believe salvation apart from the body of Christ is possible? I hear what you're saying. I'm hoping that as we discuss the beginning of Romans chapter 10, our differences on...
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    Amen to love them and pray for them! The interesting thing is, I think you are wrong. And you think I am wrong. And we both believe we are led by the holy Spirit. And you both believe it is good to tell each other that we are wrong! :) And of course, when the other person who is wrong...
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    That's correct. I can't understand why someone would think that it was.