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BillG

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Cerwin said:
More than just honesty, I admire his COURAGE. I suppose I'm not "trusting" enough to put myself out there like that. Even in Christian Chat.
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I get ya, and the reason being is that some Christians shoot the wounded.
They are not concerned with restoring a fellow believer.

Their Phariseecal attitude goes before them.

Thank God I am not like them (not me but the Pharisees)

Peter says to Jesus, go away from me cause I is a sinner.
Jesus says come follow me.
 
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OwzK

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BillG said:
Ok Im not sure we are willing to justify him.

So can I ask you to do the following.

You are Jesus and you are walking down the road, like when he met Peter or Zacchaeus

You meet Absolem

So be like Jesus. You know all about him you have read his post.

Tell us how you be with him
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That's the thing, sex abusers just aren't people, they're evil. Druggies are different, they're just a lost cause. It's sad what happens to them and I do feel sorry for druggies sometimes, not knowing where to turn and then turning to something, which becomes an addiction then destroys them. But like... they're addicts, they never quit. There are some rare cases where they get better, yes. But the drug abuser itself has to want to get better, and even then it's tough for them.

Majority of cases though, they're lost causes. Does that mean we should give up on them and not try to help them on to the right path? No, we should try to help them get off and back to reality. But if the druggie does nothing to help itself, it has nothing to blame it's actions except for itself. Is it "noble" or "caregous" that a druggie takes responsibility for it's own actions? LMAO no xD a person should take responsibility for their own actions always. Anyone who thinks different is just disillusionall.
 
Absolem

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That's the thing, sex abusers just aren't people, they're evil. Druggies are different, they're just a lost cause. It's sad what happens to them and I do feel sorry for druggies sometimes, not knowing where to turn and then turning to something, which becomes an addiction then destroys them. But like... they're addicts, they never quit. There are some rare cases where they get better, yes. But the drug abuser itself has to want to get better, and even then it's tough for them.

Majority of cases though, they're lost causes. Does that mean we should give up on them and not try to help them on to the right path? No, we should try to help them get off and back to reality. But if the druggie does nothing to help itself, it has nothing to blame it's actions except for itself. Is it "noble" or "caregous" that a druggie takes responsibility for it's own actions? LMAO no xD a person should take responsibility for their own actions always. Anyone who thinks different is just disillusionall.
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You remind me of my brother.
 
BillG

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OwzK said:
That's the thing, sex abusers just aren't people, they're evil. Druggies are different, they're just a lost cause. It's sad what happens to them and I do feel sorry for druggies sometimes, not knowing where to turn and then turning to something, which becomes an addiction then destroys them. But like... they're addicts, they never quit. There are some rare cases where they get better, yes. But the drug abuser itself has to want to get better, and even then it's tough for them.

Majority of cases though, they're lost causes. Does that mean we should give up on them and not try to help them on to the right path? No, we should try to help them get off and back to reality. But if the druggie does nothing to help itself, it has nothing to blame it's actions except for itself. Is it "noble" or "caregous" that a druggie takes responsibility for it's own actions? LMAO no xD a person should take responsibility for their own actions always. Anyone who thinks different is just disillusionall.
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As a person who had a severe gambling addiction and hated it with a passion and cried out to God every day for 35 years I know what it is like.

Praise God six years ago he healed me of my addiction, just like that.

What was the change? I came to understand who I am in Christ, he revealed to me why I gambled.
The two main things were being thrown out by my mother when I was 13 and then fostered.

Spent the next 5 years trying to fight of the sexual abuse my foster dad tried every night.

My gambling addiction was my escape from this. God led me through the process of Forgivness and when I forgave I was set free from gambling.

Just so everyone knows I'm not perfect. I smoke.

Sorry if that upsets you all.
 
Absolem

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BillG said:
As a person who had a severe gambling addiction and hated it with a passion and cried out to God every day for 35 years I know what it is like.

Praise God six years ago he healed me of my addiction, just like that.

What was the change? I came to understand who I am in Christ, he revealed to me why I gambled.
The two main things were being thrown out by my mother when I was 13 and then fostered.

Spent the next 5 years trying to fight of the sexual abuse my foster dad tried every night.

My gambling addiction was my escape from this. God led me through the process of Forgivness and when I forgave I was set free from gambling.

Just so everyone knows I'm not perfect. I smoke.

Sorry if that upsets you all.
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Your awesome man, Godbless you.
 
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OwzK

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BillG said:
As a person who had a severe gambling addiction and hated it with a passion and cried out to God every day for 35 years I know what it is like.

Praise God six years ago he healed me of my addiction, just like that.

What was the change? I came to understand who I am in Christ, he revealed to me why I gambled.
The two main things were being thrown out by my mother when I was 13 and then fostered.

Spent the next 5 years trying to fight of the sexual abuse my foster dad tried every night.

My gambling addiction was my escape from this. God led me through the process of Forgivness and when I forgave I was set free from gambling.

Just so everyone knows I'm not perfect. I smoke.

Sorry if that upsets you all.
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Bloody hell you're taking this personal xDDD

So you had an addiction, so what? gambling addictions and drug addictions aren't the same. It's really good you got over your addiction, but to justify some druggie just cos they do something stupid, and blame it on their addiction. It's like if a drug addict killed someone, and then you trying to say "oh it's alright cos he was under the influence of his addiction". Pathetic, only losers gamble anyway.
 
BillG

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OwzK said:
Bloody hell you're taking this personal xDDD

So you had an addiction, so what? gambling addictions and drug addictions aren't the same. It's really good you got over your addiction, but to justify some druggie just cos they do something stupid, and blame it on their addiction. It's like if a drug addict killed someone, and then you trying to say "oh it's alright cos he was under the influence of his addiction". Pathetic, only losers gamble anyway.
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In my response to your post I asked you be like Jesus and met Absolem.

Should have checked you out first.

I don't think you know Jesus.

Thanks for calling me pathetic.

You accuse me of taking this to personal.

Please read your quote above. You seem to have a personal agenda.

That is to slag everyone here off.
 
blue_ladybug

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You have a real nice Christian attitude.. :/
 
Yeraza_Bats

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blue_ladybug said:
Cerwin, to make it easier, use the "reply with quote" button when you respond to someone.. :)Thats what I'm doing Thats why you see your quote here. Maybe I misunderstood the lesson.
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Cerwin, when you reply to someones post, be sure that you keep the "quote" in the brackets at the end of the post that you are replying to. It looks like this- [/QUOTE*] but without the *.

If you lose that, it will just appear as if you typed it out and hit the post button : p
 
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OwzK said:
That's the thing, sex abusers just aren't people, they're evil. Druggies are different, they're just a lost cause. It's sad what happens to them and I do feel sorry for druggies sometimes, not knowing where to turn and then turning to something, which becomes an addiction then destroys them. But like... they're addicts, they never quit. There are some rare cases where they get better, yes. But the drug abuser itself has to want to get better, and even then it's tough for them.

Majority of cases though, they're lost causes. Does that mean we should give up on them and not try to help them on to the right path? No, we should try to help them get off and back to reality. But if the druggie does nothing to help itself, it has nothing to blame it's actions except for itself. Is it "noble" or "caregous" that a druggie takes responsibility for it's own actions? LMAO no xD a person should take responsibility for their own actions always. Anyone who thinks different is just disillusionall.
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Im going to give you a testimony. One night a group of young men were out doing drugs. They did not realize that the drugs they were doing was laced with stronger drugs. One of the young men took such a bad trip that he believed he was burning in hell.The only place he knew to go was the church. He told his friends to drop him off at the church. They didnt want to get in trouble but he was so out of it that they left him at the church. He flung the doors wide and he said all he saw was a chair at the altar. The preacher was a special speaker and he had put the chair at the altar and said "someone is going to get saved tonight". He ran to the altar screaming "Im in hell,help me Im burning in hell"!! His family ran to meet him and there and he got saved that night and never did drugs again. That young man,was my mothers brother,my uncle. Do not say who is a lost cause,NO ONE is a lost cause with Jesus. He saves from the guttermost to the uttermost,never forget it!
 
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kaylagrl said:
Im going to give you a testimony. One night a group of young men were out doing drugs. They did not realize that the drugs they were doing was laced with stronger drugs. One of the young men took such a bad trip that he believed he was burning in hell.The only place he knew to go was the church. He told his friends to drop him off at the church. They didnt want to get in trouble but he was so out of it that they left him at the church. He flung the doors wide and he said all he saw was a chair at the altar. The preacher was a special speaker and he had put the chair at the altar and said "someone is going to get saved tonight". He ran to the altar screaming "Im in hell,help me Im burning in hell"!! His family ran to meet him and there and he got saved that night and never did drugs again. That young man,was my mothers brother,my uncle. Do not say who is a lost cause,NO ONE is a lost cause with Jesus. He saves from the guttermost to the uttermost,never forget it!
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That's the wonderful thing about Jesus, he CAN save people, even from drugs and even when people are beyond and lost causes they still can be saved. They aren't ALWAYS saved though, you see many who are stuck forever and who don't turn to Christ, and even some who do, just don't have strong enough faith to make a difference, in honesty. There are however rare occasions, yes. And those rare occasions are truly wonderful.

However, I did say in my quote "majority of cases though, they're lost causes", did I imply that I meant every single one there? Of course not or I would have said "they're all lost causes". Because the word "majority" doesn't mean every single one, it only means a majority. In simple terms, the word "majority" means the most. It doesn't mean "all".
 
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I agree with you. It should be taken down. While thinking about that please consider that fornication is frowned on also.
 
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Oncefallen

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Unfortunately I've had reservations about the OP for quite a while. In his short time here he has admitted to being a diagnosed, yet untreated schizophrenic which is quite dangerous not only for himself but for those who come into contact with him (IRL) because invariably untreated schizophrenia degrades into delusional paranoia which will make him a danger to himself and others.

Within this thread he has admitted to relapsing to using Chrystal Meth which will only make the paranoia related to his schizophrenia that much more severe.

In short, this young man desperately needs prayer, but he also needs intense psychiatric care which I don't foresee him getting as long as he remains here and a large number of users (most likely unintentionally) act as enablers for him to continue extreme denial of the severity of his problems.

 
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