It's all very interesting...but we believe in Grace through faith, the Word of God, and His creation. What more do we truly need?
3D Model Of Jesus From The Shroud
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But, what happen to that cloth when Jesus re-entered His body? I would think it would be some kind of tremendous light - like a flash that takes a picture. His image was "imprinted on that cloth like a negative print" would be my guess.
easy.
using a pinhole in an opaque sheet you can create a projection onto a canvas and trace it. this technique was known at least as early as the Renaissance - and although possibly considered 'cheating' - it could be used to create images with extraordinary accuracy. do this, and instead of painting the appropriate gradation of shadow/light, you simply paint the opposite. that is, you paint the negative space instead of the positive.
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if you were a talented artist you wouldn't need to go through the whole projection thing; you could just sketch a very accurate depiction -- just mentioning it for the sake of education
This could be the answer but is strange that in everything I have seen or read on the subject none of the ''experts'' have put this forward. Its not just the image that has been examined. Apparently the weave of the cloth is said to be the same uses in 1st Century Judea and pollen traces come from plants that grew there. How much of this is accurate is open to question. I expect the real truth behind it will never be found. In any case Faith doesn't rely on ancient relics like this one.
the relics ly in the witnesses of His diciples, women first and then after all, the (4) gospels
given their own individual accounts...
Christ showed Himself to His faithful followers first and foremost, and this would be His
sisters and called out ones, His women of Faith...
given their own individual accounts...
Christ showed Himself to His faithful followers first and foremost, and this would be His
sisters and called out ones, His women of Faith...
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It tells us in Isaiah 52 that our precious Lord’s appearance was marred more than any man. Jesus was beaten and shredded up so badly, His body so savagely disfigured that those who looked on Him were stupefied, traumatized, the Word says. The Lord's skin was torn from His body. So wouldn’t the shroud of Turin be blood-soaked from top to bottom if it belonged to Christ Jesus? That shroud only shows a few blood stains.
(Thank You, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You, Lord Jesus for what You went through to save us!!)
(Thank You, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You, Lord Jesus for what You went through to save us!!)
any words that point to our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ-Yahuah, should always feel blessed...
Glad you shared this. It certainly is interesting. I watched on the Smithsonian channel when they came up with a picture from the shroud, but we have no real confirmation that it's of Jesus.
God would know this would lead to idolatry, and if it were authentic would He allow it to end up in the hands of the Vatican, to add to their already existing idols. Just my thoughts.
I think of the humble garden tomb, believed to be where Jesus was actually buried, yet not significant to some... while the Vatican built a load of churches over various Holy sites, taking over the land and making idols.... yet the garden tomb is free of all that, which I think must have been God's doing. It's kind of like a present to us, that we don't have to deal with all those idols, so we have that one place that the Vatican did not get their hands on.
I don't think we'll see Jesus' face until He collects us. I think this will be one of those things we also wait for, where we shall see Him just as He is. In the meantime we wait for that day.
Also, I read that the average height for Jews around Jesus' time was about 5ft, which today we would see as short. Josephus described Jesus as being around that height too, though it's just his description and not biblical fact. The man under the shroud is much taller than this though, but clearly he had been crucified. Did you notice his side is pierced too...
God would know this would lead to idolatry, and if it were authentic would He allow it to end up in the hands of the Vatican, to add to their already existing idols. Just my thoughts.
I think of the humble garden tomb, believed to be where Jesus was actually buried, yet not significant to some... while the Vatican built a load of churches over various Holy sites, taking over the land and making idols.... yet the garden tomb is free of all that, which I think must have been God's doing. It's kind of like a present to us, that we don't have to deal with all those idols, so we have that one place that the Vatican did not get their hands on.
I don't think we'll see Jesus' face until He collects us. I think this will be one of those things we also wait for, where we shall see Him just as He is. In the meantime we wait for that day.
Also, I read that the average height for Jews around Jesus' time was about 5ft, which today we would see as short. Josephus described Jesus as being around that height too, though it's just his description and not biblical fact. The man under the shroud is much taller than this though, but clearly he had been crucified. Did you notice his side is pierced too...
Interesting facts I found....
The blood contained high levels of substances called creatinine and ferritin, found in patients who suffer forceful traumas. So the presence of these particles point to a violent death of the man covered by the shroud.
Every scientific attempt to replicate the image in a lab has failed. They conducted 5 years of experiments, using state of the art lasers to train short bursts of ultraviolet light on raw linen, in an effort to simulate the image's coloration. They were unable to match all the physical and chemical characteristics of the shroud image. Nor could they reproduce a whole human figure.
The ultraviolet light necessary to do so "exceeds the maximum power released by all ultraviolet light sources available today. It would require pulses having durations shorter than one forty-billionth of a second, and intensities on the order of several billion watts." The light source that put this image on the cloth was incredible and beyond our capabilities.
Pollen traces and floral imprints suggested that they could only have come from plants growing in a restricted area around Jerusalem and could date back to Jesus' time. A type of pollen from a thistle visible near the shoulder of the man's image on the shroud was believed to have come from the plant used for Jesus' crown of thorns.
The blood contained high levels of substances called creatinine and ferritin, found in patients who suffer forceful traumas. So the presence of these particles point to a violent death of the man covered by the shroud.
Every scientific attempt to replicate the image in a lab has failed. They conducted 5 years of experiments, using state of the art lasers to train short bursts of ultraviolet light on raw linen, in an effort to simulate the image's coloration. They were unable to match all the physical and chemical characteristics of the shroud image. Nor could they reproduce a whole human figure.
The ultraviolet light necessary to do so "exceeds the maximum power released by all ultraviolet light sources available today. It would require pulses having durations shorter than one forty-billionth of a second, and intensities on the order of several billion watts." The light source that put this image on the cloth was incredible and beyond our capabilities.
Pollen traces and floral imprints suggested that they could only have come from plants growing in a restricted area around Jerusalem and could date back to Jesus' time. A type of pollen from a thistle visible near the shoulder of the man's image on the shroud was believed to have come from the plant used for Jesus' crown of thorns.