Adam and Eve first people on earth?

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pottersclay

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Adam was made with the dust of the earth there was no seed or womb involved.
Eve was made from what seems to be the rib of adam.
Eve and adam were flesh and bone. Eve was known as the mother of all living things.
Adam is known as first man according to scripture. This content is not referring to first of many but first as in only.
Back in the day untill even some present cultures the wealth of the family was considered by the number of children they had especially sons. Be fruitful and multiple. Woman who were barren were considered as cursed of God and frowned upon. This was also grounds for divorce. It is with this that we know adam and eve had many sons and daughters the bible only speaks of two for the focus of Jesus's blood line.
 

GaryA

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God said this is what has happened up to this point in history. Genesis 2:5 - Revelation 22:21 was still to come and is still to come.
Guess again.

Verse 4 is associated with the verses after it - not the verses before it.
 
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I use the KJV Companion Bible
Genesis 1



24And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. 25And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Genesis 2

1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there wasnot a man to till the ground. 6But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.



Please take the time to slowly read all of this but really pay close attention to the bold print. You will see day 6 creation God created he him male and female. Right there tells you that could not be Adam and Eve. God took part of Adam to make Eve.

I am going to stop right here I hope this help clear things up

KenA
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Genesis 1:28God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

versus
Genesis 2:20And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

Adam was never intended to be a sexual creature, so there is were your pre Adamic creature lies.
 

GaryA

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If you want to twist the scripture to fit your doctrines, your traditions of men all of which make void the word of God. That is your choice.
Everyone else on this thread could just as easily be telling you this...
 

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Verse 5 is telling you that before day six there was no man. How does that prove your bizarre theory?
It does not say there was no man; It says there was no man to till the ground.
New International Version
Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth and no plant had yet sprung up, for the LORD God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no one to work the ground,

New Living Translation
neither wild plants nor grains were growing on the earth. For the LORD God had not yet sent rain to water the earth, and there were no people to cultivate the soil.

English Standard Version
When no bush of the field was yet in the land and no small plant of the field had yet sprung up—for the LORD God had not caused it to rain on the land, and there was no man to work the ground,

Berean Study Bible
Now no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth, nor had any plant of the field sprouted; for the LORD God had not yet sent rain upon the earth, and there was no man to cultivate the ground.

King James Bible
And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.

New King James Version
before any plant of the field was in the earth and before any herb of the field had grown. For the LORD God had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground;

New American Standard Bible
Now no shrub of the field was yet on the earth, and no plant of the field had yet sprouted, for the LORD God had not sent rain upon the earth, and there was no man to cultivate the ground.

NASB 1995
Now no shrub of the field was yet in the earth, and no plant of the field had yet sprouted, for the LORD God had not sent rain upon the earth, and there was no man to cultivate the ground.

NASB 1977
Now no shrub of the field was yet in the earth, and no plant of the field had yet sprouted, for the LORD God had not sent rain upon the earth; and there was no man to cultivate the ground.

Amplified Bible
no shrub or plant of the field was yet in the earth, and no herb of the field had yet sprouted, for the LORD God had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to cultivate the ground,

In chapter one on the 6th day says
New International Version
Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

New Living Translation
Then God said, “Let us make human beings in our image, to be like us. They will reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the livestock, all the wild animals on the earth, and the small animals that scurry along the ground.”

English Standard Version
Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

Berean Study Bible
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness, to rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it.”

King James Bible
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
What a load of Satanically-inspired rubbish.

Let's try this again:

I Corinthians chapter 15

[35] But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
[36] Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
[37] And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:
[38] But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
[39] All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
[40] There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
[41] There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
[42] So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
[43] It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
[44] It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
[45] And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
[46] Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
[47] The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
[48] As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
[49] And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

THE FIRST MAN ADAM had a natural, terrestrial, or EARTHY body that was made from the dust of the earth.

Again, FIRST MEANS FIRST.

There were no men or women upon the face of this earth until God created Adam and Eve on day 6 of creation.

Renounce your heresies.
  • For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. (1 Cor. 15:22) Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. (1 Cor. 15:45) The first man [Adam] was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man [Jesus] is from heaven. (1 Cor. 15:47)
  • Adam was the first man formed from the earth By God The first man that God breathed into his nostrils the breath of life.
Genesis 2:7
Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being.
The breath: The spirit. Of life: His spirit.
Adam had the chance to live of ever in the Garden of Eden. The men and woman made in our image were given a mortal soul. and a mortal body it was going to die. Adam if he had not gone against Gods word and sined would have lived for ever.
 

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Consider
Genesis 1:28God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

versus
Genesis 2:20And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

Adam was never intended to be a sexual creature, so there is were your pre Adamic creature lies.
I kinda agree with you but whin sin entered in he messed up God plan.
 

Magenta

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Adam if he had not gone against Gods word and sined would have lived for ever.
Another assumption not supported by the text. In fact, to have lived
ever after, Adam would have had to have eaten from the Tree of Life.
 

GaryA

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Another assumption not supported by the text. In fact, to have lived
ever after, Adam would have had to have eaten from the Tree of Life.
Another [double] assumption...

no sin - no death - Adam would have lived forever - as long as he did not sin

(And, this is assuming that no one else - including Eve - sinned either.)
 

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It does not say there was no man; It says there was no man to till the ground.
So it could also say "There was no man to eat food" (because there was no man, period). Or there was no man to sleep at night (because there was no man, period). Do you see the UTTER ABSURDITY of your conclusion? What phase of the moon are we in?
 
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I kinda agree with you but whin sin entered in he messed up God plan.
God's Plan was not messed up merely unfolded the way it did. The difference is an optimal solution vs an optimum solution, like the perfect design of the eye. Atheists used to say there is no God as the eye is the most atrocious of designs. They now say it is an engineering marvel.

Consider Luke 20:35But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: 36Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
Sex marriage was never on the agenda. We will return to an Edenic state in New Jerusalem.
 

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  • For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. (1 Cor. 15:22) Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. (1 Cor. 15:45) The first man [Adam] was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man [Jesus] is from heaven. (1 Cor. 15:47)
  • Adam was the first man formed from the earth By God The first man that God breathed into his nostrils the breath of life.
Genesis 2:7
Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being.

The breath: The spirit. Of life: His spirit.

Adam had the chance to live of ever in the Garden of Eden. The men and woman made in our image were given a mortal soul. and a mortal body it was going to die. Adam if he had not gone against Gods word and sined would have lived for ever.
More rubbish.

Even in what you've written here, you changed it from "The first man [Adam] was from the earth" to "Adam was the first man formed from the earth".

In other words, Adam was the first man, and he was formed from the earth.

Not, the first man formed from the earth was Adam as if other men had previously been formed some other way.

"The men and women made in our image (those who were allegedly created before Adam and Eve) were given a mortal soul, and a mortal body it was going to die"?

Where do you find any of this rubbish in the Bible?

Here's what the Bible actually says:

Genesis chapter 1

[26] And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
[27] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

And here's who it is referring to:

Genesis chapter 5

[1] This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
[2] Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

There was only one day in which God created man, and that was day 6.

You're a heretic, Ken...and a stiff-necked and stubborn heretic at that.

Things won't end well for you if you don't come to your senses and repent.

Well, I've got to get ready for work.

I'll probably address more of your heresy later today.
 

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“He made from one man (Adam) every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth” (Acts 17:26)
 

Live4Him3

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God's Plan was not messed up merely unfolded the way it did. The difference is an optimal solution vs an optimum solution, like the perfect design of the eye. Atheists used to say there is no God as the eye is the most atrocious of designs. They now say it is an engineering marvel.

Consider Luke 20:35But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: 36Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
Sex marriage was never on the agenda. We will return to an Edenic state in New Jerusalem.
Which is why God told Adam and Eve to be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the earth, RIGHT?!?

Seriously, where do these heretics come from?
 

Live4Him3

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“He made from one man (Adam) every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth” (Acts 17:26)
Other translations say "from one blood", but I was going to mention this somewhere down the line myself.
 

Live4Him3

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The men and woman made in our image were given a mortal soul. and a mortal body it was going to die. Adam if he had not gone against Gods word and sined would have lived for ever.
I really need to get ready for work, but not before asking this question:

These alleged men and women who were allegedly created before Adam and Eve...exactly what type of "mortal bodies" did they have?

What were they allegedly made of?

Anyhow, despite your heretical nonsense, DEATH entered this world as a result of Adam's sin:

Romans chapter 5

[12] Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
[13] (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
[14] Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

For those who aren't being led by Satan and demons.