Assassination attemp against Donald Trump

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HealthAndHappiness

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zeroturbulence said:
"....James Dobson, the founder of the group Focus on the Family, claimed Trump recently “[accepted] a relationship with Christ,” adding, “I know the person who led him to Christ.” " - The Atlantic, June 2016 (This is before he became president)

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/trump-born-again/489269/
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Thank you for the link to Dobson's remarks about Trump responding in prayer with Paula White in 2016.

The explanation I heard directly from Trump since then is his faith in works too unfortunately.

Then I looked to see what prayer that Paula White would have led Trump in.
On her website I found her official gospel message that she chose to post. After her prayer to the Father, she prayed to Satan.

Quote:
"Devil, let go of my life
I'm done with you. I renounce you right now.

Then she led in prayer to the Holy Spirit.
"Holy Spirit, give me power that I may serve God until I see Him face to face."

Is there any work in that prayer, Zero turbulence?

I just hoped to find clarity on Donald Trump. Thanks to your help, I think we have.
I've prayed many times for his salvation through a clear hearing of the gospel.
 
posthuman

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maxwel said:
Every conservative in the country is TERRIFIED some idiot will take a shot at Biden,
because we are POSITIVE Trump will be blamed.
The bias and animosity isn't unidirectional... and it's ridiculous to even consider that.
(Republicans weren't burning the country down in the summer of love, and republicans aren't jailing grandparents for strolling through open doors in the capital.)

This country has been intentionally torn apart and polarized, for several years, and when politicians who caused the division go around hypocritically calling for "sweetness and unity" right after an assassination attempt... it's just asinine.

Sweetness and unity are great things.
But to expect such a thing, in a country that's been intentionally devastated through vicious polarization... is unrealistic.

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i don't think we should align ourselves with either party, as Christians.
 
hornetguy

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posthuman said:
i don't think we should align ourselves with either party, as Christians.
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I don't think we are called to be apolitical. I think we should strive to be salt and light to a fallen world, and that includes doing our best to put good people in office.
To think that both parties are equally "bad" is simply head-in-the-sand mentality. The conservatives are much more interested in family values, Christian beliefs, and Godly behavior than the liberal socialists are. To think they are even close is ludicrous.

I don't think we should insist on "good Christians only" as our leaders, but we should strive and vote to get as close to that as possible.
 
Nehemiah6

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hornetguy said:
The conservatives are much more interested in family values, Christian beliefs, and Godly behavior than the liberal socialists are. To think they are even close is ludicrous.
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Hornetguy take a look at the RNC platmform ( actually a Trump platform). It is outstanding. no sane person could ever object to even one of their goals.

But posthuman and other Communists and Never Trumpers will never admit the truth. They will always claim that both parties are equally bad in order to exonerate themselves. Which is a blatant lie.

The Senate Democrats (with help from the RINOs) just told the world that the ILLEGAL ENEMIES OF AMERICA (who have entered and done a lot of damage) can freely vote in American presidential elections. If that is not evidence that the Democrats are actually domestic enemies, I don't know what is.

On another note, while Trump was getting a bullet, the RNC invited Nikki Haley -- a Democrat plant and enemy of Trump -- to speak at their national convention. Can you believe the disloyalty and betrayal within days of the assassination attempt? That's the RINOs for you.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/07/neocon-nikki-haley-accepts-last-minute-invite-speak/
 
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zeroturbulence said:
“Though I was confirmed at a Presbyterian church as a child, I now consider myself to be a non-denominational Christian,”
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And a non-following Christian

Pretty much everything he stands for goes against Christian teachings.

Except for the abortion thing, which apparently gives him a pass on all the other ways he apostates.
 
Nehemiah6

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maxwel said:
Sweetness and unity are great things.
But to expect such a thing, in a country that's been intentionally devastated through vicious polarization... is unrealistic.
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These domestic enemies fear JUSTICE. Not retribution, which would mean bombing the daylight out of them, but justice. Locking them up for life for treason, rather than facing a firing squad. So now they call for sweetness and unity.

No one in public office has flatly accused these people of treason. But mounting a Coup 'd'Etat is in fact treason. Now Trump is also talking about uniting the country. That does not necessarily mean that he cannot set up a military tribunal and bring them all to justice. The American people and the Republic expect as much.
 
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JTB said:
Not to mention all the school children God then previously let be injured and killed.
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That is not what God did, but cowardly police officers, and all the governments and school boards which refused to put proper security in place in schools. All those mass shooting were avoidable.
 
posthuman

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hornetguy said:
I don't think we are called to be apolitical. I think we should strive to be salt and light to a fallen world, and that includes doing our best to put good people in office.
To think that both parties are equally "bad" is simply head-in-the-sand mentality. The conservatives are much more interested in family values, Christian beliefs, and Godly behavior than the liberal socialists are. To think they are even close is ludicrous.

I don't think we should insist on "good Christians only" as our leaders, but we should strive and vote to get as close to that as possible.
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“Christians are not distinguished from the rest of humanity by country, language, or custom. For nowhere do they live in cities of their own, nor do they speak some unusual dialect, nor do they practice an eccentric way of life.​
…They live in their own countries, but only as nonresidents; they participate in everything as citizens, and endure everything as foreigners. Every foreign country is their fatherland, and every fatherland is foreign.​
…They live on earth, but their citizenship is in heaven. They obey the established laws; indeed in their private lives they transcend the laws. They love everyone, and by everyone they are persecuted. They are unknown, yet they are condemned; they are put to death, yet they are brought to life. They are poor, yet make many rich; they are in need of everything, yet they abound in everything.”​
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— Epistle of Diognetus 5.1-2, 5, 9-13​
 
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JTB said:
So God saved Trumps life, while letting 3 others be injured/killed.

Not to mention all the school children God then previously let be injured and killed.

Interesting.
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Well, if he didn't the man needs to head to Vegas! He's got the luckiest son of a buck walking this earth.
 
HealthAndHappiness

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JTB said:
So God saved Trumps life, while letting 3 others be injured/killed.

Not to mention all the school children God then previously let be injured and killed.

Interesting.
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God's responsibility to protect your children and family is YOURS.
Whoever's children you are referring to should have a father and mother who protect them from danger best they can. Go ahead and blame God if you want. He is Righteousness and you and I are not. I have failed, but God never fails.

All I can hope for is that those in the crowd were saved and that you are Saved too. I was almost shot in the head and had my head bashed in over half a dozen times. I know what the hell I'm talking about.
I'm not angry, but you need to take my gospel post seriously. Some day you will die of something and it will be too late. None of us are getting outta here alive.
 
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JTB said:
And a non-following Christian

Pretty much everything he stands for goes against Christian teachings.

Except for the abortion thing, which apparently gives him a pass on all the other ways he apostates.
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I was going to give a thumbs down but I understand how you feel. I disagree, but I think you're very genuine and I don't think there is a reason to argue further. Some of us cannot sit at home, we have reason to vote. I hope you respect that as much as I respect your right not to vote.
 
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