Can killing an Image on a screen or in a game be a Sin?

[Mychael]

Lots of people in the last 40 years had gown up around games they play though TV screens and computer monitors and such.
Question is can you lose your salvation by killing imaginary images of of what represents life on a screen? Is the though connected to the sin?
Could this be a stumbling block we blindly give to our future generations?

 

[Dave-L]

Lots of people in the last 40 years had gown up around games they play though TV screens and computer monitors and such.
Question is can you lose your salvation by killing imaginary images of of what represents life on a screen? Is the though connected to the sin?
Could this be a stumbling block we blindly give to our future generations?

Does it involve hatred?

 

[Dino246]

I'd suggest that you first settle in your mind whether you can "lose your salvation" at all. Then, if you believe you can, you'd do better to read your Bible again, and keep reading it instead of playing games.

You can't murder what is not a human; digital humans are not made in the image of God. The danger is that by playing these games, you are conditioning your mind to killing without remorse. That can and does transfer to the real world.

 

[Mychael]

I'd suggest that you first settle in your mind whether you can "lose your salvation" at all. Then, if you believe you can, you'd do better to read your Bible again, and keep reading it instead of playing games.

You can't murder what is not a human; digital humans are not made in the image of God. The danger is that by playing these games, you are conditioning your mind to killing without remorse. That can and does transfer to the real world.

Jesus taught that the thought is what counts, that if you looked at another woman in desire counted as adultery.
In my opinion that principle is applied here as well, it doesn't matter if digital or not, its in the intention of the heart that God sees and if it can effect a person's heart to judge quicker without thinking things out properly because its all about reaction time. Don't think, just do it becomes the necessary state of mindset to win. One who lives by the sword will die by the sword. What you do with your time as it fills your heart and soul with the different things, effects most people. An untrained or improperly trained mind is like a roof with a hole in it, it can allow the world to enter into the whole house spoiling the contents.

 

[Dino246]

Jesus taught that the thought is what counts, that if you looked at another woman in desire counted as adultery.
In my opinion that principle is applied here as well, it doesn't matter if digital or not, its in the intention of the heart that God sees and if it can effect a person's heart to judge quicker without thinking things out properly because its all about reaction time. Don't think, just do it becomes the necessary state of mindset to win. One who lives by the sword will die by the sword. What you do with your time as it fills your heart and soul with the different things, effects most people. An untrained or improperly trained mind is like a roof with a hole in it, it can allow the world to enter into the whole house spoiling the contents.

I agree with everything except what is bolded. You can't kill what is not alive in the first place. A digital human is not a human being created in the image of God. It has neither lifeblood, nor soul, nor spirit.

If you choose not to play such games, fine for you, but please don't use unsound arguments to try to convince others.

 

[Aerials1978]

Jesus taught that the thought is what counts, that if you looked at another woman in desire counted as adultery.
In my opinion that principle is applied here as well, it doesn't matter if digital or not, its in the intention of the heart that God sees and if it can effect a person's heart to judge quicker without thinking things out properly because its all about reaction time. Don't think, just do it becomes the necessary state of mindset to win. One who lives by the sword will die by the sword. What you do with your time as it fills your heart and soul with the different things, effects most people. An untrained or improperly trained mind is like a roof with a hole in it, it can allow the world to enter into the whole house spoiling the contents.

Jesus was referring to a thought process: Thoughts are planted seeds, if that seed is watered it grows and will eventually give birth to sin(Physical acts of the flesh).

I don’t think playing videos games will necessarily cause one to actually commit murder. We are all murders already if we have hated a person.

 

[Mychael]

Does it involve hatred?

It can in at lest two forms. A divine hatred of Sin and what causes it, not the Sinner is one form, or in most cases, a hatred much like what they did throughout time with God's Message and Messengers. Herod's wifes hatred of John the Baptist is one example that comes to mind. Two of Herod’s sons were Herod Philip and Herod Antipas. Herod Philip married a woman called Herodias. When Herod Antipas visited his brother, he wanted Herodias for a wife for himself. So Herod Antipas divorced his own wife, and married Herodias. She, of course, had to divorce Herod Philip first. The Jewish law does not permit such behaviour (Leviticus 18:16 and 20:21). John the Baptist said this was wrong. When he did this, he made Herodias very angry. So Herod Antipas ordered John's arrest. How John stood up for God and revealing the truth cause so much strife in her to hate John enough to have him killed.

 

[JamOn]

hmm interesting thread, I have some questions also

How but army men the little plastic figures as a child I’d play with these and knocked them over as to kill them. people do carry on with the model figures as a hobby today, is it a sin to play with plastic figures.

or dodge ball hitting a person with a ball to take them out of the game of dodge.

or applying for a job, one person really needs the job has nothing yet another person gets the job who has plenty both where equally qualified. Was it a sin for the plenty to get the job while the needy keep searching with nothing.

 

[CharliRenee]

Hmmmm, interesting question. I suppose, ultimately, the answer lies in the condition of ones heart when playing.

The fact that the virtual images are not alive in the first place has bearing on the elimination of them in the first place. However, if in your heart, great pleasure is achieved at the thought of killing...

Oops, me thinkith that me overthinking this, lol. I would maybe ask God and just make sure not too much time is consumed playing the game.

Confession alert...

I partake in gardenscapes, and derive pleasure, tapping on the bomb boosters, lol. Is that a sin, lol?

 

[garee]

Lots of people in the last 40 years had gown up around games they play though TV screens and computer monitors and such.
Question is can you lose your salvation by killing imaginary images of of what represents life on a screen? Is the though connected to the sin?
Could this be a stumbling block we blindly give to our future generations?

Nothing in itself is evil save the evil one. Electronics is a source of not thinking of a person surroundings. But just like all thing they can come into us as the things we feed on but they come out as draught to those who do not wretles against flesh and blood.

The shield of faith can keep it from entering our heart. .Be careful how we hear. Guard your heart with the shield of faith, the word of God.

Mark 7:18-20 King James Version (KJV) And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him; Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats? And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.

 

[Mychael]

hmm interesting thread, I have some questions also

How but army men the little plastic figures as a child I’d play with these and knocked them over as to kill them. people do carry on with the model figures as a hobby today, is it a sin to play with plastic figures.

or dodge ball hitting a person with a ball to take them out of the game of dodge.

or applying for a job, one person really needs the job has nothing yet another person gets the job who has plenty both where equally qualified. Was it a sin for the plenty to get the job while the needy keep searching with nothing.

I agree that our past transgressions have layed the groundwork for the strong delusion and deception now, little seeds planted throughout time that their fruits time has come to harvest. if the sum of our past is based on errors or truth, we are eating from the fruits of its sum right now but not the fullness of it yet, like a multi-course dinner only thinking its only just what you have on your plate now, not realizing there is many more plates still to come.

 

[Mychael]

Hmmmm, interesting question. I suppose, ultimately, the answer lies in the condition of ones heart when playing.

The fact that the virtual images are not alive in the first place has bearing on the elimination of them in the first place. However, if in your heart, great pleasure is achieved at the thought of killing...

Oops, me thinkith that me overthinking this, lol. I would maybe ask God and just make sure not too much time is consumed playing the game.

Confession alert...

I partake in gardenscapes, and derive pleasure, tapping on the bomb boosters, lol. Is that a sin, lol?

Like everything else its between God and You. If you are, or have been made conscience of wrong doing, then You have to act upon what your conscience of. Some will given more grace others more law depending on what God asks of you personally for. Each one a little different according to their calling. Main things to remember is not to get involve with any of the warnings given that You cannot Enter into Heaven by doing, and try not to be involved in anything that may cause others to stumble. Teach others if you can, we need better teachers that plant the seeds necessary for all the steps in the ladder to be there for the futures sake. Don't be afraid to be different then everyone else.

 

[Micaiah-imla]

All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient/edify not (1 Corinthians 6:12; 10:23).

Killing an image on screen is a simulation of doing an action. I cannot imagine taking part in something like this as a saved person.

As one who spent many hours playing video games before getting saved I would say not playing them anymore would be expedient.

I would extend this to real sports as well.

The nature of sports/games is for one to defeat the other, and often results in anger when it is not accomplished (which is not a Christ like action).

We should be prepared to suffer loss and to be armed with that mind (1 Peter 2:19).

I hope you find resolve in this matter between you and God.

 

[JamOn]

I agree that our past transgressions have layed the groundwork for the strong delusion and deception now, little seeds planted throughout time that their fruits time has come to harvest. if the sum of our past is based on errors or truth, we are eating from the fruits of its sum right now but not the fullness of it yet, like a multi-course dinner only thinking its only just what you have on your plate now, not realizing there is many more plates still to come.

good thing Jesus is got it covered, he surely wouldn’t condemn someone for playing army men, he made wine for the wedding reception in Cana I can’t see those people who continue to drink the wine once the original supplied wine ran out. Excused of being a drunkard why did they say that of him did they see him with a glass of wine in his hand that is a interesting statement.

 

[JamOn]

All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient/edify not (1 Corinthians 6:12; 10:23).

Killing an image on screen is a simulation of doing an action. I cannot imagine taking part in something like this as a saved person.

As one who spent many hours playing video games before getting saved I would say not playing them anymore would be expedient.

I would extend this to real sports as well.

The nature of sports/games is for one to defeat the other, and often results in anger when it is not accomplished (which is not a Christ like action).

We should be prepared to suffer loss and to be armed with that mind (1 Peter 2:19).

I hope you find resolve in this matter between you and God.

Your right run the race like scripture says to win

 

[Whispered]

Lots of people in the last 40 years had gown up around games they play though TV screens and computer monitors and such.
Question is can you lose your salvation by killing imaginary images of of what represents life on a screen? Is the though connected to the sin?
Could this be a stumbling block we blindly give to our future generations?

In short to answer the OP question itself, no.
I use to play hangman while in school. Did I hang people playing that game? No.

 

[Mychael]

All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient/edify not (1 Corinthians 6:12; 10:23).

Killing an image on screen is a simulation of doing an action. I cannot imagine taking part in something like this as a saved person.

As one who spent many hours playing video games before getting saved I would say not playing them anymore would be expedient.

I would extend this to real sports as well.

The nature of sports/games is for one to defeat the other, and often results in anger when it is not accomplished (which is not a Christ like action).

We should be prepared to suffer loss and to be armed with that mind (1 Peter 2:19).

I hope you find resolve in this matter between you and God.

You've misunderstood my intentions. I asked as a question so people would ask themselves like some of my other posts I was inspired to try with. Your feelings are along the same as mine and the Bibles. All these Crystal Ball things are just early versions of the Image that is given power to speak and move as it morphs into its final state. God Bless you for standing up for the truth.

 

[JamOn]

Obsession can be of another issue and there are in many many forms, there is a limit and often times there is a price in this life when obsession rule a persons life. Jesus said my yoke is easy and my burden is light. when do we as people know when the burden is heavy and the yoke is thick.

 

[Micaiah-imla]

Sorry for the misunderstanding, Mychael.

God bless you too!

 

[JamOn]

Like even being on a site like this, I think I may have an obsession with it, I spend a lot of time on it, it is probably to much time and there are more important things I’m not paying attention too rather I’m debating in things and wondering about this or that or those people wrong or right many things. it might be high time I limit myself.