Cancer treatment choices

[HealthAndHappiness]

This guy is a Chiropractor...
AKA :Quack-a-practor.
His personal Claims of knowledge of biological chemistry are supported only by his ego and a rudimentary concept of nutrition.
My friend who holds her PHD in biogical Chemistry and is the department chair in her University for their Chemistry Department (I baked the cake at her Doctorate party....because she is my friend)

She says, "Just no" about this guy. "Sure, you might lose weight....but gluten sensitivity is a symptom of a larger issue that has yet to have a discovered cause"

Meaning....this guy at best gives out bandages for broken arms and in no way do I want him treating me for CANCER. He is not a doctor and cannot even prescribe drugs. Not even an antibiotic like a dentist can.

Quack is an old time term that comes from the use of quick silver aka mercury.
Dr Osborne cares about his patients and advised them to avoid mercury fillings that your Quack Dentist example has no problem putting in children's skulls near their brains.
Likewise the harmful injections that the MDs aka Murder Doctors give cancer to children with. Those vaccines are full of Quackery aka Mercury to kill the pathogens. I know what I'm talking about. I've had plenty of friends who were chemists for big pharma and talked to Mercs vaccine developer. He told me exactly why they put mercury ska Quack silver in every batch.

With him pushing his YouTube channel this way I have serious doubts about his chiropractic practice....if he was successful he would have too many clients and not enough time to do this.

Of course no MSA is going to allow you to give this Shamaan any money. He is the literal poster child for being a "quack". He is a shyster con-man....he only wants your money. He will say anything he thinks you want to hear to separate you from your money. He has never, or ever will be considered a "healer" of any sort. He doesn't even own dieticians license. (Which I personally passed on even though I needed just a couple of classes, along with paying the fees, to obtain)
This guy is eventually going to get arrested and sued for medical malpractice and nutritional abuse.

Why do you lie?
He's been on the boards of prestigious Health Certification organizations. He's one of the world's top Clinical Nutritionists.
Do you seriously think he's unable to pass a couple of state classes ? It's a step waaaay down.
You didn't even listen to one of the classes.
How many MDs, Dieticians, nurses spend as much time in ongoing education out of love for their neighbors and God?

 

[JohnDB]

Quack is an old time term that comes from the use of quick silver aka mercury.
Dr Osborne cares about his patients and advised them to avoid mercury fillings that your Quack Dentist example has no problem putting in children's skulls near their brains.
Likewise the harmful injections that the MDs aka Murder Doctors give cancer to children with. Those vaccines are full of Quackery aka Mercury to kill the pathogens. I know what I'm talking about. I've had plenty of friends who were chemists for big pharma and talked to Mercs vaccine developer. He told me exactly why they put mercury ska Quack silver in every batch.

Why do you lie?
He's been on the boards of prestigious Health Certification organizations. He's one of the world's top Clinical Nutritionists.
Do you seriously think he's unable to pass a couple of state classes ? It's a step waaaay down.
You didn't even listen to one of the classes.
How many MDs, Dieticians, nurses spend as much time in ongoing education out of love for their neighbors and God?

You want people to go see a self proclaimed nutritionist for CANCER TREATMENTS?
Skin cancer, colon cancer, stomach cancer, bone cancer, liquid tumors, lung cancer, liver cancer....

That's nuts stuff

What's wrong with seeing an oncologist? That is their speciality.
What's wrong with getting the medicines that have the best odds of success instead of the cheapest ones first? That ONLY happens with an MSA.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

You want people to go see a self proclaimed nutritionist for CANCER TREATMENTS?
Skin cancer, colon cancer, stomach cancer, bone cancer, liquid tumors, lung cancer, liver cancer....

That's nuts stuff

What's wrong with seeing an oncologist? That is their speciality.
What's wrong with getting the medicines that have the best odds of success instead of the cheapest ones first? That ONLY happens with an MSA.

Ok
Have a nice weekend.

 

[Lanolin]

Are you ok?

There's plenty of preventative medicine, but not sure what you would do if you actually have aggressive cancer already in your body, most surgeons if they can will cut it out, or do chemo, radiation or immunotherapy.

Of course you can fast and correct your diet, but you need to do that in addition to having treatment if the cancer has spread far.

I'm not an oncologist, but just know way too many people who have died of cancer, and the ones that survived, all got treatment of some kind that wasn't solely nutritional.

I do hope that people do their research and not cling to false hopes or expensive treatments that don't do anything but drain your wallet.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Are you ok?

There's plenty of preventative medicine, but not sure what you would do if you actually have aggressive cancer already in your body, most surgeons if they can will cut it out, or do chemo, radiation or immunotherapy.

Of course you can fast and correct your diet, but you need to do that in addition to having treatment if the cancer has spread far.

I'm not an oncologist, but just know way too many people who have died of cancer, and the ones that survived, all got treatment of some kind that wasn't solely nutritional.

I do hope that people do their research and not cling to false hopes or expensive treatments that don't do anything but drain your wallet.

This man sure isn't.

Good thing the surgeon operated in time?

 

[Lanolin]

Surgery is always risky, but up to the patient whether they agree to it or not.
People do sign consent forms so they know what they may be in for if they need an operation.
Unfortunately some people don't look after their health that they need to have these operations. But also some are injured through no fault of their own. Surgery isn't a guarantee things will be better, but it may improve quality of life, or it may take it.
If taking meds you are meant to say whether you have any allergies, or have side effects, nobody is going to force you to take meds. You can also go to another doctor to get second opinion.

I wouldn't tarr all doctors with the same brush.
If you have experience with malpractice, you need to report it, but don't always go looking for every scrap of evidence to hate on doctors especially if you don't even know them. It's not healthy to do that. Unless you are a lawyer on a lawsuit or have a case, why would you? Do you actually run a hospital?

If you don't want to see a doctor thats fine, but you can't stop others from going. Also, at some point you may need emergency ambulance, what, are you going to refuse? Even Jesus went to a physician, and advised the lepers to go to one, even if they were healed by him, so that people knew a miracle had taken place.

Who was Luke but Mary's physician? i.e Doctor! Do you think just because Jesus was born in a stable that Mary had no midwife, or saw anyone afterward? Jesus had to be circumcised, who does that surgery? Someone who is a surgeon! He didn't do it himself.

 

[blueluna5]

I am reading books about documented cases of people who successfully decided to try natural ways to get well from even the most serious types of cancer. Some did it completely through diet and lifestyle changes, some through a combination of conventionally recommended chemotherapy and such.

I am reading that chemotherapy, though often very successful, causes damage to the body and a lot to the immune system. Factors like this do need thought. So much suffering is caused by it's side effects, but of course it has it's place in treatment.


Of course it is entirely individual choice as each patient has their own opinion over what to do with doctors recommendations. Yet there ARE cases of complete recovery from cancer by entirely natural means of supporting one's immune system. It is a brave choice and some people are successful in finding the key to unlocking their own ability to heal. This is so interesting as I think it is not really an area of great research. Doctors tend to dismiss rare completely natural remissions.

I wonder if anyone here has an opinion or experience or knowledge of someone recovering without medical help?
Do keep in mind I am merely curious, not telling anyone what to do and certainly not seeking arguments. Cancer is so common now and is very scary, it is best to know we have a choice over how to tackle it.
One book I am reading is 'Cancer: Survivors Stories: They did it. You can too,' by Jonathan Chamberlain.

Another is Remarkable Recovery by Caryle Hirshberg. Also The Cancer Survivors Club by Chris Geiger.

The cases in these books are inspirational and often very moving, about very brave patients who knew first hand what it is to face serious illness.

Currently grieving a family member who died from cancer so my answer might be insensitive or ignorant even.

From what I understand nothing actually treats cancer. They either have to cut it out or they use chemo. All the chemo does is to cause inflammation to get your immunity right to the cancer cells. But why don't white blood cells already do that?

There's not much of a choice. I personally would explore every option and use conventional in addition to natural. But I'll admit they don't have much with conventional.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Surgery is always risky, but up to the patient whether they agree to it or not.
People do sign consent forms so they know what they may be in for if they need an operation.
Unfortunately some people don't look after their health that they need to have these operations. But also some are injured through no fault of their own. Surgery isn't a guarantee things will be better, but it may improve quality of life, or it may take it.
If taking meds you are meant to say whether you have any allergies, or have side effects, nobody is going to force you to take meds. You can also go to another doctor to get second opinion.

I wouldn't tarr all doctors with the same brush.
If you have experience with malpractice, you need to report it, but don't always go looking for every scrap of evidence to hate on doctors especially if you don't even know them. It's not healthy to do that. Unless you are a lawyer on a lawsuit or have a case, why would you? Do you actually run a hospital?

If you don't want to see a doctor thats fine, but you can't stop others from going. Also, at some point you may need emergency ambulance, what, are you going to refuse? Even Jesus went to a physician, and advised the lepers to go to one, even if they were healed by him, so that people knew a miracle had taken place.

Who was Luke but Mary's physician? i.e Doctor! Do you think just because Jesus was born in a stable that Mary had no midwife, or saw anyone afterward? Jesus had to be circumcised, who does that surgery? Someone who is a surgeon! He didn't do it himself.

Who are you talking to?

What are you responding to?
It sounds like a conversation with a different thread.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Currently grieving a family member who died from cancer so my answer might be insensitive or ignorant even.

From what I understand nothing actually treats cancer. They either have to cut it out or they use chemo. All the chemo does is to cause inflammation to get your immunity right to the cancer cells. But why don't white blood cells already do that?

There's not much of a choice. I personally would explore every option and use conventional in addition to natural. But I'll admit they don't have much with conventional.

I empathize with your loss.

You mentioned that their treatments cause the body's immune system, white blood cells, to go to the cancer cells if I understand you correctly.
What I have been told by MDs is that chemo/chemicals used destroy both cancer and healthy cells. They don't target cancer cells exclusively. Their hope is to kill tumors without killing the patient first.
If the patient is not healthy enough, the treatments can actually poison the patients.

I used a specific botanical that boosts certain types of wbcs, killer T cells/ neutrophils, that quickly shrunk the tumor of mine and my Mom's dog. My half brother was against it altogether as he gave her the cancer with a highly carcinogenic chemical I Forbade him from using. In spite of my treatment doing what God created it to do, my half bro decided to spite me and kill the healthy dog.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Surgery is always risky, but up to the patient whether they agree to it or not.
People do sign consent forms so they know what they may be in for if they need an operation.

This makes me wonder if you are responding to the previous video I posted. The man was butchered like a cow. The surgeon removed his liver and killed him! Consent forms is a euphemism for a liability waver. It's a legal document to absolve the hospital and staff of liability for this kind of slaughter. I feel badly for he and his family. Did you even watch it?

Unfortunately some people don't look after their health that they need to have these operations. But also some are injured through no fault of their own. Surgery isn't a guarantee things will be better, but it may improve quality of life, or it may take it.
If taking meds you are meant to say whether you have any allergies, or have side effects, nobody is going to force you to take meds. You can also go to another doctor to get second opinion.

I.agrer that might be wise to get another opinion from another good source.

I wouldn't tarr all doctors with the same brush.

I don't, however there are lots of Drs who have made a name for themselves as less than honorable to put it nicely.
For instance, all the Drs, nurses and pharmacists who injected people with the Covid mRNA poison are under a curse for their crimes.

If you have experience with malpractice, you need to report it, but don't always go looking for every scrap of evidence to hate on doctors especially if you don't even know them.

What about murder?
Is that ok?

It's not healthy to do that. Unless you are a lawyer on a lawsuit or have a case, why would you? Do you actually run a hospital?

No, but need to file lawsuits ASAP. I do not run a hospital.
However, I have known 10 administrators who have. They gave me the inside scoop and perspectives most people are not privy to. It's been an interesting education.

If you don't want to see a doctor thats fine, but you can't stop others from going.

Where have I stopped anyone from so much as going to a grocery store??
Please remind me of that post.

Also, at some point you may need emergency ambulance, what, are you going to refuse?

Yes, I have done that a number of times. I was tempted to call an ambulance and instead called a friend to pray with me. When the Lord healed me, He got ALL of the credit and thanks.

Even Jesus went to a physician, and advised the lepers to go to one, even if they were healed by him, so that people knew a miracle had taken place.

Actually Jesus was the Physician.
Mark 2
16And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners? 17When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Who was Luke but Mary's physician? i.e Doctor! Do you think just because Jesus was born in a stable that Mary had no midwife, or saw anyone afterward? Jesus had to be circumcised, who does that surgery? Someone who is a surgeon! He didn't do it himself.

 

[Aussie52]

I had cancer of the prostate last year, and it was successfully treated with radiation therapy with little to no side effects. As a retired nurse I have seen people who have tried 'natural' treatments who have died who could have been saved if they went the medical way.
I have also seen this in my family, members who had cancer who tried nutrition to heal them, all in vain.
My advice for what it's worth is, don't fool around with cancer treatment. There are lots quacks out there ready to take your money and let you die.