Children of the Promise

[kaylagrl]

are you one of those folks who believe that God has wiped his hands off his chosen people?

You do understand that salvation for EVERYONE comes through them, right?

here we go again

Exactly, here we go again!! Now watch the twisting and jumping through hoops thats about to happen. smh

 

[PilgrimPassingThru]

LOL!..uh huh...so whose words do you suppose I am quoting?

please don't try to state you have some kind of superior ability to state what God says better than anyone

that, is just so predictive of someone wanting to express their own belief in their own ability to have the truth better than anyone else

I quoted straight from the BIBLE...IN CONTEXT...and you don't acknowledge it...you just continue with a basket of cherries

You adressed me, I dont know why though, but I am not interested in going rounds with you on whatever your problem with my posts might be, I seek to confirm the scriptures in how they are speaking in things.

Beyond that I dont wish to get pulled into wragling with you over some issue you have which I cant understand.

 

[Blain]

And that's exactly what the bible teaches. The chosen people have always come from all races.... not just the Jews.

it's funny so many put down the king james only believers and I don't know if you are one or not but if you are it would be very interesting if a kj only believer understood God's heart more than some.

 

[kaylagrl]

I'm just one of those people that believes the bible when it says the children of the flesh are not the children of God... I don't understand why you don't believe that. The children of the flesh have never been and never will be God's chosen people.

Yes I understand that salvation is of the Jews.... the question is which Jews? The Jews that killed Christ or the real Jew, the one that's a Jew inwardly?

WE all killed Christ. He died for OUR sin!! YOURS and mine. Not one of us does not have His blood on our hands.

 

[ember]

I'm sorry but your wrong. When you become so close to father that you begin to understand his way of thinking begin to see as he does begin to even feel what he feels then it doesn't matter what any interpretation or view or belief or doctrine says your heart instinctively knows your heart resonates with his own.

his children his precious ones his children of promise if they were only though a certain blood line then his love is not truly as deep as he claims it is it? Even I have seen the dangers of favoritism especially if a parent does this how much more do you think father knows? when made us forming us in the womb he took such care in making us even from every single hair on our head the warmth and love he had and felt as he made us when he thought of us is something that I have felt many times and yet my heart my soul my body cannot contain even a drop of it.

Romans 11 is wrong Blain?

25I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26and in this way[SUP]e[/SUP] all Israel will be saved. As it is written:“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27And this is[SUP]f[/SUP] my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”[SUP]g[/SUP]

28As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable. 30Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, 31so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now[SUP]h[/SUP] receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. 32For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

 

[ember]

Originally Posted by Blain View PostI'm sorry but your wrong. When you become so close to father that you begin to understand his way of thinking begin to see as he does begin to even feel what he feels then it doesn't matter what any interpretation or view or belief or doctrine says your heart instinctively knows your heart resonates with his own.


his children his precious ones his children of promise if they were only though a certain blood line then his love is not truly as deep as he claims it is it? Even I have seen the dangers of favoritism especially if a parent does this how much more do you think father knows? when made us forming us in the womb he took such care in making us even from every single hair on our head the warmth and love he had and felt as he made us when he thought of us is something that I have felt many times and yet my heart my soul my body cannot contain even a drop of it.

So you are closer to God the Father than I am? Really? did He tell you that

That is a very dangerous path to follow...that, is personal revelation and not inspired

 

[Blain]

WE all killed Christ. He died for OUR sin!! YOURS and mine. Not one of us does not have His blood on our hands.

Why does this anger you so? anger is not the fruit of spirit love is. Think of it in this then, the scriptures speak over and over again about flesh vs. spirit the desires of the flesh vs. the desires of the spirit, in fact we humans have two hearts one is of flesh and supports and keeps the flesh strong and alive but we also have an internal heart one that is not seen with physical eye one that is the only one that connect to God's own heart.

The flesh can do nothing when it comes to God it cannot understand his ways and only seeks it's own pleasures, but the spirit the believer on the inside that is the exact opposite. So wouldn't make sense if the spiritual Jews is what he was talking about instead of the fleshly ones?

 

[Blain]

So you are closer to God the Father than I am? Really? did He tell you that

That is a very dangerous path to follow...that, is personal revelation and not inspired

No, whether I am closer to him or not is irrelevant and isn't even up to me and honestly doesn't matter to me. I always speak my heart I don't know any other way to be in him I had no deeper meaning in what I said other than what God was placing in my heart at that time. As I wrote those words the warmth and love the feelings were all overflowing in my heart even now that warmth and love is till there.

I don't think when I post I only speak what is placed on my heart no real intention or deeper meaning beyond that, God knows I always speak my heart and so I think that is why he speaks through me so much. he has touched and reached so many hearts like this none of it was me I only speak my heart he is the words that come from it.

 

[BenFTW]

Why does this anger you so? anger is not the fruit of spirit love is. Think of it in this then, the scriptures speak over and over again about flesh vs. spirit the desires of the flesh vs. the desires of the spirit, in fact we humans have two hearts one is of flesh and supports and keeps the flesh strong and alive but we also have an internal heart one that is not seen with physical eye one that is the only one that connect to God's own heart.

The flesh can do nothing when it comes to God it cannot understand his ways and only seeks it's own pleasures, but the spirit the believer on the inside that is the exact opposite. So wouldn't make sense if the spiritual Jews is what he was talking about instead of the fleshly ones?

I don't wish to sound too blunt Blain, but you might want to ask the Lord about physical Israel and the Jewish people specifically. In your alone time, allow Him to guide you or speak to you about this. He may even direct you to verses, such as Romans 11. It is true, there is neither Jew or Greek, male or female in respect to being in the Lord, we all are one. Yet, He, the Lord, did work through the flesh and blood Jewish bloodline to bring about the Messiah and to bring about the Gospel. He still has plans for these people, the Jewish people in accordance to His word and faithfulness (also to Israel).

 

[kaylagrl]

Why does this anger you so? anger is not the fruit of spirit love is. Think of it in this then, the scriptures speak over and over again about flesh vs. spirit the desires of the flesh vs. the desires of the spirit, in fact we humans have two hearts one is of flesh and supports and keeps the flesh strong and alive but we also have an internal heart one that is not seen with physical eye one that is the only one that connect to God's own heart.

The flesh can do nothing when it comes to God it cannot understand his ways and only seeks it's own pleasures, but the spirit the believer on the inside that is the exact opposite. So wouldn't make sense if the spiritual Jews is what he was talking about instead of the fleshly ones?

I was making a point,no anger in the words at all. You assumed incorrectly.

 

[ember]

No, whether I am closer to him or not is irrelevant and isn't even up to me and honestly doesn't matter to me. I always speak my heart I don't know any other way to be in him I had no deeper meaning in what I said other than what God was placing in my heart at that time. As I wrote those words the warmth and love the feelings were all overflowing in my heart even now that warmth and love is till there.

I don't think when I post I only speak what is placed on my heart no real intention or deeper meaning beyond that, God knows I always speak my heart and so I think that is why he speaks through me so much. he has touched and reached so many hearts like this none of it was me I only speak my heart he is the words that come from it.

Hey!!! how about Romans 11...

when I post, I make sure of what the BIBLE states....you are not as close as you think apparently, or you would understand that what you are saying is not true

I don't want to hurt your feelings Blain...truly I don't...but flashing your 'personal' relationship with God and saying that you are so close that you know things OUTSIDE of scripture is out of the pale IMO

Further, you have no clue if God sits on my couch every day and teaches me personally

If he does, however, I would not mention it as proof of what I state...know why? His word comes first and He is the first one to say so...IN His word actually

please quit it with the emotional appeals...you have no idea what I have been through in life or what I have overcome

You are FAR from the only one who as experienced heartache and trials...I just choose not to put them above the Word

 

[ember]

suppertime...ding ding ding LOL! need a break from this rehashed unbiblical heresy anyway

Blain: When you become so close to father that you begin to understand his way of thinking begin to see as he does begin to even feel what he feels then it doesn't matter what any interpretation or view or belief or doctrine says your heart instinctively knows your heart resonates with his own.

 

[BenFTW]

suppertime...ding ding ding LOL! need a break from this rehashed unbiblical heresy anyway

Blain: When you become so close to father that you begin to understand his way of thinking begin to see as he does begin to even feel what he feels then it doesn't matter what any interpretation or view or belief or doctrine says your heart instinctively knows your heart resonates with his own.

I can understand what Blain is saying there. VVhen people come out with doctrines that are contrary to His nature, you know they are fallacious. It's like people saying God is done with Israel and the Jewish people (lol, that long set up) when He has made promises to them. Is God faithful? Then He will not be a liar and follow through with His word to these people and nation.

 

[Blain]

Hey!!! how about Romans 11...

when I post, I make sure of what the BIBLE states....you are not as close as you think apparently, or you would understand that what you are saying is not true

I don't want to hurt your feelings Blain...truly I don't...but flashing your 'personal' relationship with God and saying that you are so close that you know things OUTSIDE of scripture is out of the pale IMO

Further, you have no clue if God sits on my couch every day and teaches me personally

If he does, however, I would not mention it as proof of what I state...know why? His word comes first and He is the first one to say so...IN His word actually

please quit it with the emotional appeals...you have no idea what I have been through in life or what I have overcome

You are FAR from the only one who as experienced heartache and trials...I just choose not to put them above the Word

i'm sorry if I made you think I thought I was any closer or any better to God than you I promise that was not mt intent at all.
But your right I have no idea what you have been though what struggles what pain what sadness, I never once thought myself special or strong or any more worthy than anyone else because of my struggles and pain in life and it certainly has nothing to do with me in this day. But I am not a Christian because I want to be holy or for myself at all, as a Christian as a person as a believer as a child of God I have always only sought to be one thing above everything else and that is Love not the kind of love that we humans know of but the kind of love that comes from his heart alone.

My reason my purpose in this life is to connect with those who know pain who struggle who know how harsh life can be, I have intention of being right no intention of being stronger than anyone or closer to God than anyone. I desire very strongly to be that strong to be closer to God than we ever thought possible to develop a love a bond a connection with him that more beautiful that stronger that more rich than any of us though possible however I seek all of this and at that kind of level so that all others can know and have the same thing with him.

More than anything I want all others to know him and have a love with him to know who they are to him what he sees when looks at them what thinks when he thinks of them how deeply they are cared for, and if I ever receive my hearts desire to the fullest then they will have a deeper and stronger love and bond and closeness than I ever will.

 

[Stephen63]

Israel will be saved, but only a remnant. Even now, there are some messianic jews that are saved, but they are few in number.

 

[kaylagrl]

Israel will be saved, but only a remnant. Even now, there are some messianic jews that are saved, but they are few in number.

And Israel has a big part here in the last days.To deny it is deny Scripture.But people will always find a way to do it.

 

[Stephen63]

And Israel has a big part here in the last days.To deny it is deny Scripture.But people will always find a way to do it.

True, but Idt it's worth much to argue over, not that it's not important. IMO I think we should pick our battles more carefully, otherwise people might think we argue for argument's sake, yes?

 

[kaylagrl]

True, but Idt it's worth much to argue over, not that it's not important. IMO I think we should pick our battles more carefully, otherwise people might think we argue for argument's sake, yes?

Oh boy! You're in the BD forum and are asking that?! ​Replacement theology is false doctrine so I will speak to it whenever it is brought up. But I try to put forth the truth without arguing but thats pretty much a miracle anymore in the forums.

 

[DP]

WE all killed Christ. He died for OUR sin!! YOURS and mine. Not one of us does not have His blood on our hands.

Whoah.............!!!!

WE all killed Christ???!???!!!!@!

NO WAY!

I've heard that baloney before gal, not a doctrine that belongs to US (Christ's Church). The UNBELIEVERS had our Lord Jesus killed, not us!

 

[kaylagrl]

Whoah.............!!!!

WE all killed Christ???!???!!!!@!

NO WAY!

I've heard that baloney before gal, not a doctrine that belongs to US (Christ's Church). The UNBELIEVERS had our Lord Jesus killed, not us!

He died for our sins. All of our sins. He died for and because of us.