Christians need to continue to repent of their sins

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Blade

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"Christians need to continue to repent of their sins" Whos saying this? Yeah it mattes since we only answer to Him we do not answer to man. What matters in all this is are 'you" doing what you preach.

"So, this must refer to eternal (spiritual) death." Nope that is not the only other choice here.

You know Paul or the sweet sweet holy Spirit tried to tell Jewish believers who would sin but go back and offer a sacrifice for that sin. He said there is no more sacrifice for that sin. Christ can not die again. So we have believer that believe when they sin Christ can still hold it against them. What happened on that cross? What sin made it past the blood of Jesus Christ? Sure we read He died we died He rose we rose yet sin can no longer touch Him but how odd it can us? So much of this is milk and we should be pass this.

Then the verses the op posted oh man there is so much more context. In one Chapter of those verses not touched is we confess our sins to each other and we are healed "Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much. " This alone is huge. A key that cannot be over looked "fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much" The prayer of a righteous man has great power to prevail
 

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Sins committed under the New Testament, do not come with the curse of death as they do under the First Testament, except for a very few instances. That's why Jesus' sacrifice paid our debt-in-full for all our sins which were committed by those who were under the law.
1 Jn 5: 16-17:
If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
Heb 9: 15:
And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
Rom 3: 19:
Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Gal 3: 23:
But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Mt 5: 18:
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Sadly, the truth feels exactly the same as does error or we'd no longer need to study scripture; because we'd know as we're known, no longer seeing truth through a dark looking-glass. No longer would iron sharpen iron as we'd all be in agreement with one another for every minor doctrine and thought, which would require the Holy Spirit to give us all the same revelations as we study scripture.
2 Tim 2: 15:
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
1 Cor 13: 12:
For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
Pr 27: 17:
Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.
 
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"To sin and turn to God in prayer, and ask God for more forgiveness to get given you from sinning again is asking God to send Son back to earth and do it all over gain. That the first time in his willing sacrifice was and is not good enough,. We need more forgiveness, that shedding of Son's blood does not cover it, is what one is saying to God, when one sins again. As I have, oh boy
I used to think that way, I had to get more forgiveness."




I do not see anyone saying this at all. When we ask for God to forgive us of a sin we have done as a Believer in Christ we are not asking or saying what Christ did was not enough. We are placing our faith in the work of the cross that is for us today and every day. As we grow in the grace and knowledge of the Lord.

Those who make such statement are not seeing what Jesus said on the Cross or what it means when Jesus said

John 19:28-30

28 After this, Jesus, knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the Scripture might be fulfilled, said, “I thirst!” 29 Now a vessel full of sour wine was sitting there; and they filled a sponge with sour wine, put it on hyssop, and put it to His mouth. 30 So when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, “It is finished!” And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit.

"It is Finished."

Jesus said this, which means in Greek, a Debt has been paid in FULL. All past debt, and future debt paid in full.

My Debt has been paid, but I still must confess I owed a debt I could not pay, and it was paid by one who did not owe it.

The Holy Spirit, a resident living in the Believer, his JOB is to convict of sin. There are sins of omission and commission.

James 4:17

Luke 10:30-37

Matthew 25:44-45

Romans 7:18-19



We are to search our hearts Daily to see what?

Hebrews 3:12-14 NLT


Be careful then, dear brothers and sisters. Make sure that your own hearts are not evil and unbelieving, turning you away from the living God.

You must warn each other every day, while it is still “today,” so that none of you will be deceived by sin and hardened against God.
For if we are faithful to the end, trusting God just as firmly as when we first believed, we will share in all that belongs to Christ.
So, elated you are in search for it, Hallelujah and as you continue you will one day come to the end of self, your own energy and then rest in this mess and leave things not good for your soul behind you
  1. Hebrews 4:9
    There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  2. Hebrews 4:10
    For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  3. Hebrews 4:11
    Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
 
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Gee, your opinion is wonderful ... but what about the verses in the OP?

News Flash
Christian forums are filled with people's opinions,
butski most of them refuse to deal with the Scriptures!
IMO, this is a most sad state of affairs indeed.
in case you are not seeing this truth, there is a before the cross and an after the cross
Before under Law
After past the Law
Romans 4:16
Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
Romans 10:4
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Hebrews 7:16
who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Romans 8:11
But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
1 Corinthians 15:45
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
1 Peter 3:18
For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
She the people in the risen Son are no longer under Law to do Law, no flesh other than Son's can or has done it
Let go, turn to God Father and ask God for the new Heart in the risen Son for us
Ezekiel 36:26
A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
The original flesh Heart that the first Adam had before he chose to not believe God and eat from that tree
thanking God, seeing truth
all sin today by Son is taken away as far as the east is from the west Psalm 103:12 so we can now live a true life of love, even while in any troubles.
Do we not see Paul rejoicing win jail still, and the jail help that came. to believe God through Paul, still rejoicing in God still, not complaining
 
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Yes, but a Moderator elsewhere calling himself something like "Right Divider"
has a great difficulty doing just that ...
He says the Word was Jesus from the beginning of creation.
So, I said his translation of John 1:14 must be ...
"... and the Word (Jesus) became flesh-human-Jesus."
A cute trick, if you can do it ... yourself becoming yourself!
So, sorry you seem to not fathom the truth God gives to his in humbleness
I am not qualified yet God is and uses his kids as vessels that began at Pentecost
I am not good God is and has done it for us to see it, by continued belief to it, to become wise as serpents and remain humble or better yer harmless as a dove to under stand Luke 21:14-15
I have no righteousness "Of my own ever"
I do have righteousness though! It is not mine "It is God Father's and Son's as won (One) for me and all the world to either believe it wholeheartedly or not consciously so
And Christ was once known in the flesh and blood body, today no more
2 Corinthians 5:16
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after theflesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
1 Corinthians 1:26
For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
Romans 6:19
I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
John 8:15
Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
 
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So, elated you are in search for it, Hallelujah and as you continue you will one day come to the end of self, your own energy and then rest in this mess and leave things not good for your soul behind you
  1. Hebrews 4:9
    There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  2. Hebrews 4:10
    For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  3. Hebrews 4:11
    Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
Yes, and I would like at this juncture to point out the close connection between the words "need/must" and "will/want" and "faith/belief".

Everyone is a sinner who must/needs to will/want (synonyms) to accept Christ as Lord in order to be saved, which faith/belief is not work/labor.

After becoming a genuine Christian, every Christian will (future tense) want to cooperate with the HS in doing good/loving deeds for the glory of God--which are spiritual fruit rather than reverting to seeking to earn salvation via meritorious works.
 
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Here’ are some passages teaching us that Christians
need to continue to repent of their on-going sins …


“Now I rejoice, not that you were made sorry, but that your sorrow led to repentance
… For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted …”
(2 Corinthians 7:9-10)


“But let your “Yes” be “Yes,” and your “No”, “No” … lest you fall into judgment
Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back,
let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will
save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins.” (James 5:12; 19-20)

Surely, there is no guarantee that verse 12 refers to eternal death.
But, re: verses 19-20 … does God kill Christians who continue to sin?
… Absolutely NO! So, this must refer to eternal (spiritual) death.

If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins
and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” (1 John 1:9)
John is writing to Christians …
I’m assuming that those who confess their sins are also repenting of them!
Doesn't make much sense to confess sins ... and then continue doing them.
My lived experience is consistent with Hebrews 12:5-11...

5 And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons:​

“My son, do not despise the chastening of the LORD,
Nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him;​
6 For whom the LORD loves He chastens,​
And scourges every son whom He receives.”​
7 If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? 8 But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons. 9 Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live? 10 For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness. 11 Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it. (Heb 12:5–11)​

God deals with me as His child. When I go astray, he corrects me. His correction does not bring joy, but grief. The longer I resist His correction, the worse the grief gets. Yet when I change my course and receive His correction, my grief goes away and is replaced with joy. I do not need to worry about what sins I need to repent of because He corrects me when I go astray. I do not need to worry about waking up one day a million miles away from God not knowing how I got there because He corrects me when I go astray. And I do not need to worry about dying in my sin and going to hell because I am His child (literally his offspring). But I do expect if I fail to accept His correction when I go astray at some point He will lose His patiance and take me home early.
 

HeIsHere

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#29
Here’ are some passages teaching us that Christians
need to continue to repent of their on-going sins …


“Now I rejoice, not that you were made sorry, but that your sorrow led to repentance
… For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted …”
(2 Corinthians 7:9-10)


“But let your “Yes” be “Yes,” and your “No”, “No” … lest you fall into judgment
Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back,
let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will
save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins.” (James 5:12; 19-20)

Surely, there is no guarantee that verse 12 refers to eternal death.
But, re: verses 19-20 … does God kill Christians who continue to sin?
… Absolutely NO! So, this must refer to eternal (spiritual) death.

If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins
and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” (1 John 1:9)
John is writing to Christians …
I’m assuming that those who confess their sins are also repenting of them!
Doesn't make much sense to confess sins ... and then continue doing them.

All sins were forgiven past, present and future at the cross.
 
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My lived experience is consistent with Hebrews 12:5-11...

5 And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons:​

“My son, do not despise the chastening of the LORD,
Nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him;​
6 For whom the LORD loves He chastens,​
And scourges every son whom He receives.”​
7 If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? 8 But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons. 9 Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live? 10 For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness. 11 Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it. (Heb 12:5–11)​

God deals with me as His child. When I go astray, he corrects me. His correction does not bring joy, but grief. The longer I resist His correction, the worse the grief gets. Yet when I change my course and receive His correction, my grief goes away and is replaced with joy. I do not need to worry about what sins I need to repent of because He corrects me when I go astray. I do not need to worry about waking up one day a million miles away from God not knowing how I got there because He corrects me when I go astray. And I do not need to worry about dying in my sin and going to hell because I am His child (literally his offspring). But I do expect if I fail to accept His correction when I go astray at some point He will lose His patiance and take me home early.
My dad did a good job of representing God when I was a child, carefully explaining that the spanking hurt him more than me because it was done in love. I did not have a sister, but wonder whether this verse would also apply to them.
 

CS1

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So, elated you are in search for it, Hallelujah and as you continue you will one day come to the end of self, your own energy and then rest in this mess and leave things not good for your soul behind you
  1. Hebrews 4:9
    There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  2. Hebrews 4:10
    For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  3. Hebrews 4:11
    Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

You are very arrogant. And the text you have used again here do not override what Jesus did below

Here:
John 19:28-30

28 After this, Jesus, knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the Scripture might be fulfilled, said, “I thirst!” 29 Now a vessel full of sour wine was sitting there; and they filled a sponge with sour wine, put it on hyssop, and put it to His mouth. 30 So when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, “It is finished!” And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit.

"It is Finished."

Jesus said this, which means in Greek, a Debt has been paid in FULL. All past debt, and future debt paid in full.

My Debt has been paid, but I still must confess I owed a debt I could not pay, and it was paid by one who did not owe it.

The Holy Spirit, a resident living in the Believer, his JOB is to convict of sin. There are sins of omission and commission.

James 4:17

Luke 10:30-37

Matthew 25:44-45

Romans 7:18-19