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You do not listen to what I say, do you? I said no knows for sure what day HE was born, so we picked a Day to Celebrate His Birth, because all the heavenly hosts who brought the GOOD NEWS to the shepherds, Celebrated His Birth. It was never intended to say this is the day to celebrate because it was the very day He was born. That is what your twisted opinion says about our beliefs, that then is a lie, it is NOT what we believe. Whoever taught you that, taught you a falsehood about what we believe. The DAY was chosen to draw people to Christ and to Celebrate that He really did come, not the specific day he came; that was the motive. I do not think it matters much if you do not like the day they chose.
There is no point for us to continue this, you keep proclaiming untruths about what we believe, because that what someone who knew no more about our beliefs than you, said we believe. It really is what you want to believe we teach, perhaps so that you can justify your piousness pharisee-like attitude of looking down on us. If so, I will pray for you to gain the victory over that sin; plus I will pray for you to be born again, and thereby come to the knowledge of the Truth.
Since you will not listen to my corrections about what we believe, it is OVER.
You will not rob our joy and love for CHRIST this Christmas Season, because the Holy Spirit is in us, teaching the us the Truth. You should really try it some time. Who knows you may even crack a smile for the first real Christmas of your life.
No it is not about the gifts, nor the Christmas Tree. It is all about part GOD Himself becoming a human infant to grow up sinless and die for our sins.
John 13:35 (ESV)
[SUP]35 [/SUP] By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
1 John 2:9 (NIV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates his brother is still in the darkness.
You do not listen to what I say, do you? I said no knows for sure what day HE was born, so we picked a Day to Celebrate His Birth, because all the heavenly hosts who brought the GOOD NEWS to the shepherds, Celebrated His Birth. It was never intended to say this is the day to celebrate because it was the very day He was born. That is what your twisted opinion says about our beliefs, that then is a lie, it is NOT what we believe. Whoever taught you that, taught you a falsehood about what we believe. The DAY was chosen to draw people to Christ and to Celebrate that He really did come, not the specific day he came; that was the motive. I do not think it matters much if you do not like the day they chose.
There is no point for us to continue this, you keep proclaiming untruths about what we believe, because that what someone who knew no more about our beliefs than you, said we believe. It really is what you want to believe we teach, perhaps so that you can justify your piousness pharisee-like attitude of looking down on us. If so, I will pray for you to gain the victory over that sin; plus I will pray for you to be born again, and thereby come to the knowledge of the Truth.
Since you will not listen to my corrections about what we believe, it is OVER.
You will not rob our joy and love for CHRIST this Christmas Season, because the Holy Spirit is in us, teaching the us the Truth. You should really try it some time. Who knows you may even crack a smile for the first real Christmas of your life.
No it is not about the gifts, nor the Christmas Tree. It is all about part GOD Himself becoming a human infant to grow up sinless and die for our sins.
John 13:35 (ESV)
[SUP]35 [/SUP] By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
1 John 2:9 (NIV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates his brother is still in the darkness.
Like someone else pointed out, Australia and New Zealand does. I would have no problem celebrating the birth of my LORD, any one of the 365 days of the year. But since you will not listen to my correcting your false assumptions about our beliefs, we too are FINISHED.
You will not rob our joy and love for CHRIST this Christmas Season, because the Holy Spirit is in us, teaching the us the Truth. You should really try it some time. Who knows you may even crack a smile for the first real Christmas of your life.
No it is not about the gifts, nor the Christmas Tree. It is all about part GOD Himself becoming a human infant to grow up sinless and die for our sins.
John 13:35 (ESV)
[SUP]35 [/SUP]By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
1 John 2:9 (NIV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates his brother is still in the darkness.
The popular date of December 25 as the day of Jesus’ birth therefore has no basis in Scripture. As many reference works show, it stems from a pagan holiday. Regarding the origin for the celebration of the day December 25, the Jesuit scholar Urbanus Holzmeister wrote:
“Today it is commonly admitted that the occasion for the celebration of the day December 25 was the festival that the pagans were celebrating on this day. Petavius [French Jesuit scholar, 1583-1652] already has rightly observed that on December 25 was celebrated ‘the birthday of the unconquered sun.’
“Witnesses for this festival are: (a) The Calendar of Furius Dionysius Filocalus, composed in the year 354 [C.E.], in which it is noted: ‘December 25, the B(irthday) of the unconquered (Sun).’ (b) The calendar of astrologer Antiochus (composed about 200 [C.E.]): ‘Month of December . . . 25 . . . The birthday of the Sun; daylight increases.’ (c) Caesar Julian [Julian the Apostate, emperor 361-363 C.E.] recommended the games that were celebrated at the end of the year in honor of the sun, which was called ‘the unconquered sun.’”—Chronologia vitae Christi (Chronology of the Life of Christ), Pontificium Institutum Biblicum, Rome, 1933, p. 46.
Perhaps the most obvious evidence of the incorrectness of the December 25 date is the Scriptural fact that shepherds were in the fields tending their flocks on the night of Jesus’ birth. (Luke 2:8, 12) Already by the autumn month of Bul (October-November) the rainy season was starting (Deuteronomy 11:14), and flocks were brought into protected shelters at night. The next month, Chislev (the ninth month of the Jewish calendar, November-December), was a month of cold and rain (Jeremiah 36:22; Ezra 10:9, 13), and Tebeth (December-January) saw the lowest temperatures of the year, with occasional snows in the highlands area. The presence of shepherds in the fields at night therefore harmonizes with the evidence pointing to the early autumn month of Ethanim as the time of Jesus’ birth.
Also weighing against a December date is that it would be most unlikely for the Roman emperor to choose such a wintry, rainy month as the time for his Jewish subjects (often rebellious) to travel “each one to his own city” to be registered.—Luke 2:1-3; compare Matthew 24:20.
Furthermore, the death of Jesus Christ took place in the spring, on the Passover Day, Nisan (or Abib) 14, according to the Jewish calendar. (Matthew 26:2; John 13:1-3; Exodus 12:1-6; 13:4) That year the Passover occurred on the sixth day of the week (counted by the Jews as from sundown on Thursday to sundown on Friday). This is evident from John 19:31, which shows that the following day was “a great” sabbath. The day after Passover was always a sabbath, no matter on what day of the week it came. (Leviticus 23:5-7) But when this special Sabbath coincided with the regular Sabbath (the seventh day of the week), it became “a great one.” So Jesus’ death took place on Friday, Nisan 14, by about 3:00 p.m.-Luke 23:44-46.
Summing up, then, since Jesus’ death took place in the spring month of Nisan, his ministry, which began three and a half years earlier according to Daniel 9:24-27, must have begun in the fall, about the month of Ethanim (September-October). John’s ministry (initiated in Tiberius’ 15th year), then, must have begun in the spring of the year 29 C.E. John’s birth therefore would be placed in the spring of the year 2 B.C.E., Jesus’ birth would come about six months later in the fall of 2 B.C.E., his ministry would start about 30 years later in the fall of 29 C.E., and his death would come in the year 33 C.E. (on Nisan 14 in the spring, as stated).
“Today it is commonly admitted that the occasion for the celebration of the day December 25 was the festival that the pagans were celebrating on this day. Petavius [French Jesuit scholar, 1583-1652] already has rightly observed that on December 25 was celebrated ‘the birthday of the unconquered sun.’
“Witnesses for this festival are: (a) The Calendar of Furius Dionysius Filocalus, composed in the year 354 [C.E.], in which it is noted: ‘December 25, the B(irthday) of the unconquered (Sun).’ (b) The calendar of astrologer Antiochus (composed about 200 [C.E.]): ‘Month of December . . . 25 . . . The birthday of the Sun; daylight increases.’ (c) Caesar Julian [Julian the Apostate, emperor 361-363 C.E.] recommended the games that were celebrated at the end of the year in honor of the sun, which was called ‘the unconquered sun.’”—Chronologia vitae Christi (Chronology of the Life of Christ), Pontificium Institutum Biblicum, Rome, 1933, p. 46.
Perhaps the most obvious evidence of the incorrectness of the December 25 date is the Scriptural fact that shepherds were in the fields tending their flocks on the night of Jesus’ birth. (Luke 2:8, 12) Already by the autumn month of Bul (October-November) the rainy season was starting (Deuteronomy 11:14), and flocks were brought into protected shelters at night. The next month, Chislev (the ninth month of the Jewish calendar, November-December), was a month of cold and rain (Jeremiah 36:22; Ezra 10:9, 13), and Tebeth (December-January) saw the lowest temperatures of the year, with occasional snows in the highlands area. The presence of shepherds in the fields at night therefore harmonizes with the evidence pointing to the early autumn month of Ethanim as the time of Jesus’ birth.
Also weighing against a December date is that it would be most unlikely for the Roman emperor to choose such a wintry, rainy month as the time for his Jewish subjects (often rebellious) to travel “each one to his own city” to be registered.—Luke 2:1-3; compare Matthew 24:20.
Furthermore, the death of Jesus Christ took place in the spring, on the Passover Day, Nisan (or Abib) 14, according to the Jewish calendar. (Matthew 26:2; John 13:1-3; Exodus 12:1-6; 13:4) That year the Passover occurred on the sixth day of the week (counted by the Jews as from sundown on Thursday to sundown on Friday). This is evident from John 19:31, which shows that the following day was “a great” sabbath. The day after Passover was always a sabbath, no matter on what day of the week it came. (Leviticus 23:5-7) But when this special Sabbath coincided with the regular Sabbath (the seventh day of the week), it became “a great one.” So Jesus’ death took place on Friday, Nisan 14, by about 3:00 p.m.-Luke 23:44-46.
Summing up, then, since Jesus’ death took place in the spring month of Nisan, his ministry, which began three and a half years earlier according to Daniel 9:24-27, must have begun in the fall, about the month of Ethanim (September-October). John’s ministry (initiated in Tiberius’ 15th year), then, must have begun in the spring of the year 29 C.E. John’s birth therefore would be placed in the spring of the year 2 B.C.E., Jesus’ birth would come about six months later in the fall of 2 B.C.E., his ministry would start about 30 years later in the fall of 29 C.E., and his death would come in the year 33 C.E. (on Nisan 14 in the spring, as stated).
K
Perpetuating the LIE that is Christmas, portrays little baby Jesus in a manger. Seems harmless and innocent until you consider....when in fact it raises up generations who say God is Love, and can not fathom that He will judge us all one day. He is also wrath. It's a hard concept to grasp who view Him as this little helpless baby. They are not being taught to fear God, who are being taught little baby Jesus perpetually in a manger.
The prophet Daniel foresaw that in our time, some people would wish others a happy new year at a wrong time. Daniel 7:25 speaks about some fourth gentile empire that was to rule over the world. This empire was to take it upon itself to, among other evils, try to change the ‘times…’ of the people of God. Have you ever wondered for example why we begin our days from midnight to midnight? Are you aware for example, that the word ‘dawn’ comes from the Hebrew word ‘dowr’, which means to ‘draw towards’? Would it be far-fetched if one were to assert that the day should begin from sunset to sunset the following day? (Genesis 1:5, 14)
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
The children of Israel were taught how to count time, dates and months included. In Exodus chapter 12, God tells the children of Israel, “This month shall be the beginning of the year to you; this shall be the first month…” (Exodus 12:1-6).
Chritmas deal with time of falsehood
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
The children of Israel were taught how to count time, dates and months included. In Exodus chapter 12, God tells the children of Israel, “This month shall be the beginning of the year to you; this shall be the first month…” (Exodus 12:1-6).
Chritmas deal with time of falsehood
B
everything is important to god dear brother.
dear brother vco....
amen brother amen.
god thought it was important he sent the angels to light up the sky, sing, and rejoice. god also thought it was important to put that down in his holy book containing his own holy word for us to know god's holy truth.
dear brother vco....
amen brother amen.
god thought it was important he sent the angels to light up the sky, sing, and rejoice. god also thought it was important to put that down in his holy book containing his own holy word for us to know god's holy truth.