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M
"For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous." (1 John 5:3, KJV).
Also I thought this was a bible discussion forum.
Maybe I should start a thread telling people that we are saved by grace and nothing else matters.
we can be drunkards,idolators,fornicators,liars,theives,murderers at heart,adulterers at heart but at the end of the day we will be saved by grace.Maybe that's what some of you want to hear.
some of you guys make it sound like if we discuss Jesus commands then we are automatically legalists.
wow,i thought professing Christians loved to discuss the word of God.
or maybe im hitting a nerve unintentionally in some of you.
I really just thought this would be an interesting thread because we don't see too many threads on hair and I was wondering if anybody actually knew that God uses our hair as part of distinguishing who we are and levels of authority.
My bad.
Also I thought this was a bible discussion forum.
Maybe I should start a thread telling people that we are saved by grace and nothing else matters.
we can be drunkards,idolators,fornicators,liars,theives,murderers at heart,adulterers at heart but at the end of the day we will be saved by grace.Maybe that's what some of you want to hear.
some of you guys make it sound like if we discuss Jesus commands then we are automatically legalists.
wow,i thought professing Christians loved to discuss the word of God.
or maybe im hitting a nerve unintentionally in some of you.
I really just thought this would be an interesting thread because we don't see too many threads on hair and I was wondering if anybody actually knew that God uses our hair as part of distinguishing who we are and levels of authority.
My bad.
M
i hear you misty.
That makes sense.
However i will always advise anyone who loves Jesus to ask him for grace to adhere to all the apostles teachings and instructions because we know all scripture was given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine,reproof,correction,instruction in righteousness so tat we can be perfect and thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Plus,paul wrote almost the whole new testament.
God clearly worked through paul and although paul gives his own opinion on things he also states that we should be followers of him as he is of Christ.
1 Corinthians 11:1-2 1Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.2Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.
i would rather allow Gods grace to give me a desire to follow all his principles and statutes(both his own and the ones he gave through his disciples)and find out in heaven that there were a few that i did not actually need to follow than to have the opposite happen.
But that's just me though.
I would also love to hear what you have learned about the different time periods that specific statutes,principles and ordinances were given and why they only applied to that particular point in time of the churches history.
please inbox me this info.seriously interested to see what you have found.
God bless
That makes sense.
However i will always advise anyone who loves Jesus to ask him for grace to adhere to all the apostles teachings and instructions because we know all scripture was given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine,reproof,correction,instruction in righteousness so tat we can be perfect and thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Plus,paul wrote almost the whole new testament.
God clearly worked through paul and although paul gives his own opinion on things he also states that we should be followers of him as he is of Christ.
1 Corinthians 11:1-2 1Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.2Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.
i would rather allow Gods grace to give me a desire to follow all his principles and statutes(both his own and the ones he gave through his disciples)and find out in heaven that there were a few that i did not actually need to follow than to have the opposite happen.
But that's just me though.
I would also love to hear what you have learned about the different time periods that specific statutes,principles and ordinances were given and why they only applied to that particular point in time of the churches history.
please inbox me this info.seriously interested to see what you have found.
God bless
1 Samuel 16:7But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The Lord does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.”
Genesis 4:5but on Cain and his offering he did not look with favor. So Cain was very angry, and his face was downcast.
Proverbs 21:27The sacrifice of the wicked is detestable— how much more so when brought with evil intent!
Genesis 4:5but on Cain and his offering he did not look with favor. So Cain was very angry, and his face was downcast.
Proverbs 21:27The sacrifice of the wicked is detestable— how much more so when brought with evil intent!
Hey, no problem! 
Listen, I don't care if a person chooses to strictly abide by these guidelines Paul wrote........or chooses not to........and being a Jesus freak is great...........I lean more towards zealot.......but freak is ok too.......
However it is important to read and understand Scripture in it's proper context in my opinion.......this "hair" passage is similar to what Paul taught concerning marriage............remember what he said about that?
Sticking as close to Scripture as possible is a wonderful thing to do, let us just be sure we understand what is a Commandment, and what isn't. Not every word of Scripture is a Commandment. Well, in my opinion anyway.
Listen, I don't care if a person chooses to strictly abide by these guidelines Paul wrote........or chooses not to........and being a Jesus freak is great...........I lean more towards zealot.......but freak is ok too.......
However it is important to read and understand Scripture in it's proper context in my opinion.......this "hair" passage is similar to what Paul taught concerning marriage............remember what he said about that?
Sticking as close to Scripture as possible is a wonderful thing to do, let us just be sure we understand what is a Commandment, and what isn't. Not every word of Scripture is a Commandment. Well, in my opinion anyway.
J
Even suggesting that we might be required to abide by any rules whatsoever at CC isn't going to go well. It will always be met with, "Well, that's not what I want to do, so thats legalism, only relavent to the culture of the time!"... and other such exscuses. To expect to have a discussion on the merits of scripture is pretty much impossible.
For many people at CC, Do What Thou Wilt Shall be the Whole of The Law.
For many people at CC, Do What Thou Wilt Shall be the Whole of The Law.
O
I do believe long hair on men is an abomination to the Lord. Jesus himself had short hair. Likewise, women should have long hair and not cut it. I realize most people are taught to do what they want. And I was among those when I first became saved. I'm thankful to the Lord that he chooses to show me His Ways and not MY Ways. Now, I'm not trying to offend long haired men and short haired woman so that I can get a bunch of hate messages. If you don't agree don't take heed. I home school and occasionally I have someone from public school tell me how wrong I am. This does not bother me. If I truly believe what I'm doing is right I don't care or pay attention to what someone says. But Jesus was a Nazarene not a Nazarite. A Nazarite was bound by a vow, not to drink wine or cut hair. A Nazarene was someone from Nazareth Jesus drank wine this is how we know he did not follow Nazarites.
On the contrary, I spend a great deal of time learning how to properly interpret scripture without tainting it with my own preferences. I love the Lord, tithe, attend church, give clothes and food to the poor, shelter the homeless, train up my son, and many other direct commandments that are found in scripture. I have not yet had the opportunity to visit people in prison, but I am open to however the Lord directs me. If I am rebuked by scripture, I prayerfully consider it and yield my will to God.
[SUP]Matthew 25:34 [/SUP]“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. [SUP]35 [/SUP]For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, [SUP]36 [/SUP]I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
Legalism is dictating to the penny how much a person should give, how many services a person attends, how often you should house the homeless, the exact length of dresses, what discipline methods are to be applied. Does that make sense? It is based on Biblical truths but forcing man-made standards/measurements upon other people.
Biblical truth=good
Forcing your application of truth on others=bad
[SUP]Matthew 25:34 [/SUP]“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. [SUP]35 [/SUP]For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, [SUP]36 [/SUP]I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
Legalism is dictating to the penny how much a person should give, how many services a person attends, how often you should house the homeless, the exact length of dresses, what discipline methods are to be applied. Does that make sense? It is based on Biblical truths but forcing man-made standards/measurements upon other people.
Biblical truth=good
Forcing your application of truth on others=bad
If your congregation has some phobia against short or long hair, then it could be offensive to the congregation, but there are other factors.
A Nazarite was not to cut his hair until his vows were completed.
There are also instructions on trimming the hair.
The only thing I recall from the Word is a rule not to cut the corners of the hair, which I do not think anyone really understands today, although some say they do and grow the hair at the temples to a ridiculous length.
No, I do not think our Fathet is impressed favoraby or negatively by our appearance. After all we are taught to judge with right judgment not by appearances. If we are taught this, the Teacher is just a bit more advanced than the students, right?
A Nazarite was not to cut his hair until his vows were completed.
There are also instructions on trimming the hair.
The only thing I recall from the Word is a rule not to cut the corners of the hair, which I do not think anyone really understands today, although some say they do and grow the hair at the temples to a ridiculous length.
No, I do not think our Fathet is impressed favoraby or negatively by our appearance. After all we are taught to judge with right judgment not by appearances. If we are taught this, the Teacher is just a bit more advanced than the students, right?