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Laodicea
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First I did not quote it to be incorrect I was showing another chiasm to consider. Let us see yours I have seen others that also have a chiasm from the first 7 chapters and the remaining chapters another.
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First I did not quote it to be incorrect I was showing another chiasm to consider. Let us see yours I have seen others that also have a chiasm from the first 7 chapters and the remaining chapters another.
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eternally-gratefull
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proving this would not be enough. I never claimed it is not real. you have to prove it in the passage, with context and proper hermeneutics.
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nonicknametouse
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If it keeps you out of heaven worry about, if it doesn't then don't worry about. God gave us the bible as it is . Everything we need to know to receive Jesus is in His word. There are more important isssues in the world then this, don't ya think.
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eternally-gratefull
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lol, you would think. but some people have made this a gospel issue, and claim it can keep you out of heaven if you get it wrong!
false prophets, false prophecy, false teachers are in danger concerning salvation - maybe you don't believe that either.
"some people" have made this a "gospel issue"? ya they have - not me though.
some other gospel for jews is OKAY with you - apparently you don't know this means another gospel and another christ FOR EVERYONE.
what are ya doin' bringing this up in ANOTHER THREAD?
when are you going to cough up and prove these allegations of:
false accusations
Bearing false witness,
condemning people
ever? or you just gonna keep posting this in EVERY THREAD with no proof?
come on EG - prove these things - otherwise it's YOU slandering.
get started.
"some people" have made this a "gospel issue"? ya they have - not me though.
some other gospel for jews is OKAY with you - apparently you don't know this means another gospel and another christ FOR EVERYONE.
what are ya doin' bringing this up in ANOTHER THREAD?
when are you going to cough up and prove these allegations of:
false accusations
Bearing false witness,
condemning people
ever? or you just gonna keep posting this in EVERY THREAD with no proof?
come on EG - prove these things - otherwise it's YOU slandering.
get started.
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cfultz3
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eternally-gratefull
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lol.. That would be a good idea.. If he wants to discuss it.. he has to give us some place to start
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doulos
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ROFLMHO this from the one who continually resorts to the tactic of misrepresenting (I.E. lying) about what Therapon says!
From post31 of connecting the dots thread;
Therapon says “Jesus is a Lamb who was, in the eyes of God the Father, "slain before the foundation of the earth," Rev 13:8 so every person who has ever been, or ever will be born, throughout all time, needs the shed blood of Jesus.” Show us where he supposedly said Jews don’t need Jesus. Doesn’t Therapon’s statement make it perfectly clear that ALL need Jesus?
How about another example;
Who’s view is that? It isn’t Therapons’. If you are trying to say that is what he is saying show us where he said it. Oh that’s right you can’t because Therapon actually says “Again you misrepresent. Jews are not "rejecting" Jesus, they just call Him their Messiah. Furthermore, they cannot reject what they cannot see, Romens 11:8.”
And another example from the thread For Then Shall be Great Tribulation;
Maybe you could show us where Therapon said this? Of course when you can’t I’m sure you will just make excuses for your fabrications like you always do. Just because you disagree with Therapon does not give you license to misrepresent (I.E. lie about) what he is saying. That only serves to show that you are willing to resort to any tactic to stand by your doctrine. Is standing by your doctrine more important then seeeking the truth?
Are you sure you want eternally-grateful to provide the quotes showing where you have done this? There are many! ( for those interested read the discourse between eternally-grateful and Zone in the “Where Are We Today In The Birth Pains” thread or maybe you would prefer the thread “Dewey Bruton’s Daniel’s End Time Prophecy exposed”)
Deu 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.
Not that witnesses are really needed in this case, after all we can all read exactly what Zone writes in her posts. Her own words as recorded in the posts she writes provide an effective witness against her credibility!
[video=youtube;kjypWmnYfUg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjypWmnYfUg&list=PLE6A44A2D730A5A06&index=9[/video]
2:34
Ellis says Daniel is the only book in the bible written in 2 languages
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FALSE
Ezra 4:8-6:18; 7:12-26; Jeremiah 10:11 are in Aramaic.
several Aramaic words and phrases occur in the New Testament.
2:34
Ellis says Daniel is the only book in the bible written in 2 languages
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FALSE
Ezra 4:8-6:18; 7:12-26; Jeremiah 10:11 are in Aramaic.
several Aramaic words and phrases occur in the New Testament.
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It seems one should not expect the prophecies of specific events to be laid out in chronological order, not even within a given book of the Word. The Word is to be understood by the Holy Spirit, so a timeline would have no importance in prophecy. What is understood and is to be understood will be in due time, not any time.
doulos,
i have nothing better to do than spend all day along on Therapon's false doctrine.
sorry you got duped.
others don't have to.
one last thing doulos.
i won't be dealing with anything you post.
i'm dealing with your mentor, Ellis.
post til you're blue in the face. if he can't defend his work (which isn't his own work anyways), neither can you.
goodbye doulos.
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Therapon
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You are so determined to prove me wrong that you will even distort what I write or say. I said: "written in two languages," not that a couple of words or verses in Chaldee didn't appear elsewhere. So get off it Zone and stick to truth.
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cfultz3
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Does a verse equal a book? It would seem the whole BOOK of Daniel is written in two languages, as oppose to a verse here and there in a BOOK.
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doulos
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The question isn't whether Therapon can defend his work, he is doing fine on that. The real question is can you defend your need to continually misrepresent (I.E. LIE) about what Therapon and others you disagree with say?
[video=youtube;kjypWmnYfUg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjypWmnYfUg&list=PLE6A44A2D730A5A06&index= 9[/video]
you said clearly in the video at 2:34
it is "the ONLY BOOK IN THE BIBLE that is written in two languages"
FALSE.
misleading.
deceptive.
you make assertions, suggestions, and omissions.
just like everything else you have done.
which i'm getting to.
Hi PeterT
Yeah, the 2nd resurrection. But most denominations claim only the bad guys rise at that time
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cfultz3
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Eliis:
is it your assertion that:
Daniel's chiasms reveal: “repeated visions about the time of gentile control of the Holy Land”
and Revelation's chiasms reveal: “repeated visions of the Christian era”
and that this order occurs in Daniel because Daniel recorded his visions out of chronological order?
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is it your assertion that:
Daniel's chiasms reveal: “repeated visions about the time of gentile control of the Holy Land”
and Revelation's chiasms reveal: “repeated visions of the Christian era”
and that this order occurs in Daniel because Daniel recorded his visions out of chronological order?
??
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