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TheWind
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And I would leave the truth to a God.. since you know not what you speak nor who you speak to..
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And I would leave the truth to a God.. since you know not what you speak nor who you speak to..
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UnderGrace
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UnderGrace
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Really one last thing... I just can't help myself, since you are a writer and all that.
That would "to whom you speak"
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TheWind
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Why would you care with whom you speak now? After you already wrote me off, and called me Luciferian, threatened me with Gods Word to damnation and more... You never cared to ask my name in the beginning before your persecutions? ...And Since you should have listened to your own advice don’t seem willing to entertain a stranger... why should I share my name with you?
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TheWind
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I wonder... If all the Jews knew who Jesus was.. would they have killed him? Or was that the plan for God to be amongst his people based off faith in his father’s name??
Jesus didn’t come worshipping himself. He praised the father .. and the fathers holy name.. do you know the fathers name Under_grace?
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TheWind
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Did God write the Bible, or men? I only ask you.. not because I don’t know the answer!
I have certainly not called you Lucifer, but you are trying to avoid the truth that Lucifer and Adam rebelled and disobeyed God, hence brought sin and death upon the human race. Thus what was VERY GOOD came under a curse.
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TheWind
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Well someone called me Luciferian.. at this point I don’t know which way the accusation comes from.... I haven’t avoided any question anyone asked me and I spoke plainly to you my belief..... You separate Adam and Lucifer.. why?
Why not? Lucifer was a cherub (one of the highest angels, and he himself was the highest of those angels). Adam was a man, the first man, created from the dust of the earth. BIG DIFFERENCE.
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TheWind
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I believe God has purpose in all things. And I believe God is Very good. So I question you.... are you saying any evil God allowed for a season in time was in vain?
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TheWind
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And when the scripture says... entertain a stranger for you don’t know when your in the company of an Angel... can you tell me the difference between a man and an angel? How would you judge the difference in your bible teachings?
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TheWind
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TheWind
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Am I yet a man ? A woman? An angel? Or a demon? How would you know.... And would you judge the difference..
Look in the Bible. It's between the front cover and the back cover.
Angels can indeed take the form of men (they are all masculine according to Scripture) and they do visit human beings. But angels essentially remain angels, and have angelic capabilities. They are spirit beings.
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TheWind
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How clever you are... but so is Gods name. Do you know it?? Did he share his name with you? What’s the Holy Father’s name that Jesus worshipped and praised since your so smart knowing front to back cover ....Or are you going to tell me he worshipped himself? ... There’s a lot said in between the lines. Wouldn’t you say?
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TheWind
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So again I ask.. why do you separate Adam and Lucifer (Angel)? If they can take that form. Your contradicting yourself... how do you know angels remain angels? Was Jesus not A Spirit?..... 1 Corinthians 15:45.. was Jesus not 2nd man Adam. A life giving spirit. Why do you separate the spirit being and the natural? God made heaven for Earth. A spirit for the man...
Sorry not following the convo, but even Jesus said to his disciples why do you call me good, there is nobody good but God.
And I think that is true cos we live in a fallen world and every one of us is affected by sin, after all each and everyone of us will die one day.
This was not so when the creation was first created it was created to last forever and there was no death. Death entered the world with sin and the forbidden tree once that fruit was eaten, death entered.
So what to do, well we believers know that Jesus reversed this curse, and are now happy in the knowledge we are saved by Him to live forever. So even death is not the end for us, for He has given us eternal life.
And I think that is true cos we live in a fallen world and every one of us is affected by sin, after all each and everyone of us will die one day.
This was not so when the creation was first created it was created to last forever and there was no death. Death entered the world with sin and the forbidden tree once that fruit was eaten, death entered.
So what to do, well we believers know that Jesus reversed this curse, and are now happy in the knowledge we are saved by Him to live forever. So even death is not the end for us, for He has given us eternal life.
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TheWind
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I like this Post!! I too believe the curse of death has been paid... and we are living in an age.. that if we were to get it right.. and believe... Jesus made Everlasting life possible through the knowledge of God... who are we to say that death is immortal.. God is immortal!! And Everlasting life is really what it means!! After-all.. The creation was made and IS ...perfect
Alice Bailey, the biggest prophet of the new age movement.
Website, lucistrust.org, to promote her books, and teachings, who wrote of the one world government, unified religious system, and the New Age Christ in the 1930's, who said she received her revelation of what she wrote from a Tibetan Monk who told her what to write.
The esoteric meaning of Lucifer according to Alice Bailey, which those that set up this website wrote this, and set the website up after she died.
There are comments on the World Wide Web claiming that the Lucis Trust was once called the Lucifer Trust. Such was never the case. However, for a brief period of two or three years in the early 1920’s, when Alice and Foster Bailey were beginning to publish the books published under her name, they named their fledgling publishing company “Lucifer Publishing Company”. By 1925 the name was changed to Lucis Publishing Company and has remained so ever since.Both “Lucifer” and “Lucis” come from the same word root, lucis being the Latin generative case meaning of light. The Baileys' reasons for choosing the original name are not known to us, but we can only surmise that they, like the great teacher H.P. Blavatsky, for whom they had enormous respect, sought to elicit a deeper understanding of the sacrifice made by Lucifer. Alice and Foster Bailey were serious students and teachers of Theosophy, a spiritual tradition which views Lucifer as one of the solar Angels, those advanced Beings Who Theosophy says descended (thus “the fall”) from Venus to our planet eons ago to bring the principle of mind to what was then animal-man. In the theosophical perspective, the descent of these solar Angels was not a fall into sin or disgrace but rather an act of great sacrifice, as is suggested in the name “Lucifer” which means light-bearer.
Helena Blavatsky said that Satan is both God and the devil.
Foster Bailey, her husband, was a Freemason, and agreed with her writings, so he is part of the inner circle of Freemasonry, and Alice wrote that the inner circle is the true Church, which the occult will put out an outer circle that is more acceptable to the public, but gets them thinking in a way they want which is according to the conditioning of the people to lead them where they want them to go, which in this case would be the future kingdom of the New Age Christ.
The New Age follows Lucifer, at least the inner circle, but Alice Bailey put it out in public to the outer circle that Lucifer brought the principle of mind to the then animal-man, caused them to evolve, and will cause them to evolve to be greater and spiritual, in the future as the New Age Christ.
The new age movement will pave the way to the beast kingdom in Revelation 13, and is the future for this world.
Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Isa 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms.
Isa 14:10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?
But they will say that the beast was nothing when they realize he was not great like he proclaimed, but deceived them.
The new age is Luciferian, and it is out to the outer circle, for it is on her website available to the public, and Alice is the biggest prophet of the coming New Age Christ that changed the thinking from the Christ conscience coming upon people to the Christ conscience coming upon a single man, the New Age Christ, the antichrist, and then he will cause them to evolve.