Different idea of AI you might not thought of.

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I don't believe this will ever happen as long as the earth exists as it is now -- because of one very clear verse in Genesis. When Adam and Eve sinned, God told them plainly:

Genesis 3:19 -- "You will eat by the sweat of your brow until you return to the ground, since you were taken from it. For you are dust, and you will return to dust."

I personally don't believe there will ever come a time when the majority of people will not need to work, because this goes directly against what God said. Even Adam was assigned a job after his creation -- he was told to name the animals. And in accounts of people who have "died and come back" (which I certainly don't see as absolutes but it's still interesting,) people have described those in heaven as working at jobs they would have been doing here on earth. Work seems to be an integral part of God's plan for us, as He is always working Himself (but also has rests, which He commands us to do so as well.)

Unfortunately, the nature of work changed when sin entered the world. I think God originally made work to be enjoyable, but sin has made it cumbersome and often unpleasant.

My small group and I were talking about The Biosphere 2 experiment in AZ this morning. It's called that because the earth is seen as Biosphere 1 and so this man-made mini-replica is Biosphere 2. It was designed to be a place where then they re-create the different climates all over the world and test its affects on living things. At one time, a group of 8 people were sealed inside for 2 years (no internet!!), with the goal of seeing how well having humans living in an enclosed ecosystem might work for space travel.

The experiment failed and had to end early because there was a buildup of carbon dioxide and diminishing oxygen levels, the people inside were basically mentally deteriorating, and funding was limited.

But one of the most important things they found was that the trees and vegetation grown inside the biosphere grew in height very quickly, but had no strength, support, or root system to hold up all the growth. They would grow to great heights, but then simply topple over -- because they were grown in a protected area -- with no wind!

The wind resistance made all the difference in producing a tree that could hold its own weight and wouldn't fall over as it grew.

We see this even in simple houseplants. I just listened to a video in which an avid enthusiast suggested placing fans in front of certain plants to help them grow stronger, because it replicated the stress that wind puts on vegetation.

I believe that God built human beings in a similar way, especially since there is so much talk about seeds, roots, and trees in the Bible. Without some wind resistance in our lives, we won't develop the strength to hold even our own spiritual weight, let alone that of others, as we are commanded to do when sharing our burdens.

I was joking with my friends about how I can think of SEVERAL times when God plopped a big fan right at me, making sure there was plenty of "wind resistance" in my life" -- and boy, I sure didn't like it at the time!

But I understand why He does it, as He is not interested in growing people with weak stems or roots -- in fact, He says they will eventually be separated and tossed into the fire.

Work is a very large part of making sure we have some "wind" in our lives blowing against us, and because of this, I just don't think we'll ever see a day on this sinful earth where the majority of God's people don't have to work.

And if that DOES happen, I would assume that it either won't have very many positive or long-lasting benefits, and/or God will allow or create other situations that will ensure His people face enough adversity to develop the strength He is looking for.

I wanted to include some visuals of The Biosphere 2, where they discovered that trees and plants can't grow strong or healthy without some sort of adversary -- in this case, wind.

This is also where they encased 8 human beings (without the internet) for 2 years as a test run for things like space travel (and living in other climates/on other planets,) but had to shut it down early due to not enough food, not enough oxygen, not enough funding, and not enough sanity -- as the people inside were literally going stir crazy.

Funny how it even looks like a giant rat maze, in reference to the Rat Utopia that Lynx mentioned in his post.

Sometimes I think about this place when I think about the "wind" God sends into my own life, knowing I'd become spiritually weak and spindly without it.





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Howdy and welcome to the forum.

Many different people are here with many different opinions. And yes there are a lot of people here who claim everybody who does not agree with them does not have good sense.

You should feel right at home in the bible discussion forum. There are lots of people there complaining about people lacking good sense because they don't agree with them.
I stand by my original comment.

And I don't interact with or debate worldly women.

Have a nice day.
 

Lynx

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I stand by my original comment.

And I don't interact with or debate worldly women.

Have a nice day.
Wait, what? Who's a woman?

I'm a guy. So are most of the combatants in... er, regulars in the Bible Discussion Forum.

Where did women come into this?
 
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Wait, what? Who's a woman?

I'm a guy. So are most of the combatants in... er, regulars in the Bible Discussion Forum.

Where did women come into this?
I've read quite a few of your posts, nothing in them ever led me to believe you were male.

I stand corrected.

I do not interact with or debate with worldly effeminate men.

Have a nice day
 
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AI is DEMONIC.

The lack of discernment on this issue is astounding. But not surprising.

And yes, this is my first post. How do you do?

I thought this was a Christian forum.

Someone please tell me that I am not the only one here who has the good sense to know that AI is DEMONIC!!!
AI by itself is neither demonic nor benign. As with most things, it depends on how it is use.

How do you do? I try to do the best that I can with the time, tools, and resources that God has so graciously provided.

Glad to have you onboard with us. Welcome to CC.
 
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Wait, what? Who's a woman?

I'm a guy. So are most of the combatants in... er, regulars in the Bible Discussion Forum.

Where did women come into this?
Yes, combatants is the more precise term for most of those that chose to participate in the wars in the BDF.
 
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I've read quite a few of your posts, nothing in them ever led me to believe you were male.

I stand corrected.

I do not interact with or debate with worldly effeminate men.

Have a nice day

I think you need to spend some time in prayer. In this one thread you make false assumptions and then impute nasty qualities to someone you don't know.

Our Lord wants more for you as a witness. Pray for patience and an earnest desire to act as He would want you to.
 

Lynx

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I've read quite a few of your posts, nothing in them ever led me to believe you were male.

I stand corrected.

I do not interact with or debate with worldly effeminate men.

Have a nice day
Must I speak of scratching my crotch or having a belching contest to qualify as being a man on a forum?

Ah yes, this one is going to be FUN! I am definitely glad you decided to grace our forum with your presence. It has been getting a bit dull around here.

*Lynx pops out to stock up on snacks and drinks, then settles in to watch the show.
 

Lynx

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I think you need to spend some time in prayer. In this one thread you make false assumptions and then impute nasty qualities to someone you don't know.

Our Lord wants more for you as a witness. Pray for patience and an earnest desire to act as He would want you to.
Howdy and welcome to the forum.
 
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I think you need to spend some time in prayer. In this one thread you make false assumptions and then impute nasty qualities to someone you don't know.

Our Lord wants more for you as a witness. Pray for patience and an earnest desire to act as He would want you to.
It was not a false assumption, but rather an educated guess.

He seems effeminate to me, and quite worldly. I read a bunch of his posts and it seems to me that Lynx is not interested in doing much other than poking and prodding and trying to get reactions from people, while defending worldy pursuits with much enthusiasm, just like one of my teenage daughters. I don't know what else to tell you.

Maybe you should pray about it.
 
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AI by itself is neither demonic nor benign. As with most things, it depends on how it is use.

How do you do? I try to do the best that I can with the time, tools, and resources that God has so graciously provided.

Glad to have you onboard with us. Welcome to CC.
Its far from benign, and we have been profusely warned about this last days beast system.

Satan is the Prince of the Power of the Air.

God did not provide this tool, the enemy did.

Its nothing less than a digital Ouija Board.

And I'm doing well, far better than I deserve, thanks for asking.
 

Lynx

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It was not a false assumption, but rather an educated guess.

He seems effeminate to me, and quite worldly. I read a bunch of his posts and it seems to me that Lynx is not interested in doing much other than poking and prodding and trying to get reactions from people, while defending worldy pursuits with much enthusiasm, just like one of my teenage daughters. I don't know what else to tell you.

Maybe you should pray about it.
Wait, which worldly pursuits am I defending? I was not aware that I had the energy or ambition to defend any of them.

Participate in, perhaps. Converse about, certainly. But defend? Not worth it.
 

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Your posts jogged something in my memory that I heard mentioned in a class I took a lifetime ago -- "The 4-Hour Work Week."

And this was long before the time of the famous self-help book which I'll get to in a minute.

There was someone else (and probably several others) who came up with the exact same ideas you're presenting here -- John Maynard Keynes -- and he predicted this in the 1930's.

A quick Google search says (in my own shortened summary):

In a 1930 essay, John Maynard Keynes envisioned a future where technological advancements would significantly increase productivity, allowing people to work much fewer hours, potentially as little as 15 hours a week. He believed rising living standards and wages would allow individuals to choose more leisure time over longer working hours.

And he predicted that this would be achieved around 2030 (only 5 years away from where we are now.)

Several reasons are listed as to why this hasn't happened, and in my opinion, this is the biggest reason as to why:

An uneven distribution of productivity gains -- the benefits of increased productivity have not been shared equally. Low-wage workers still need to work long hours to meet basic needs.

Productivity isn't always the issue -- but in a sinful world, greed will always exist. It's said that the human species produces more than enough food today to feed everyone on the planet -- but the distribution is always unequal because there are always those in power who control the distribution. Who actually gives anything away for free? I just saw a video the other day about how unaffordable the prices have become at GoodWill and other organizations that claim they want to "empower" everyday people. But one reason they've raised prices is because everyday people are taking things they find at charity shops, then selling them on Ebay in the hopes of turning big profits.

Now of course, we all need to make money to survive. But at every level, from the top to the bottom, someone will take it too far while trying to get ahead -- and will always do so at the cost of someone else.

I personally think this will continue until Jesus comes back, because there will always been those who are powerful and in control who will make sure the general population will receive only limited resources.

I don't consider myself a conspiracy theorist -- but I do try to be realistic enough to try to do the best I can in what I know will always be a topsy-turvy world.

I had a relative who lived through some of the world's greatest technological achievements -- the first automobiles as they were gradually incorporated into society; the first time they ever had electricity running in their home. I myself even remember a time before the internet. When the dot.com bubble came (similar to AI today,) we were promised amazing achievements and a bright future.

Even I can readily admit that I couldn't survive well without the internet. I love having an unlimited research and communication powerhouse right beneath my finger tips. But we now have kids who think YouTube and TikTok are job aspirations, people who are lonelier than ever, and many who are choosing AI companions over real people.

I recently watched a video of a woman in her 60's who believes she has a young, handsome boyfriend across the world -- because AI has gotten to a point where people can create and animate images of amazingly good-looking, but completely fake "people", that are good enough to pass as being "real" during a video chat. She "talks" "live" with him on a regular basis, and won't be told he's not a real person.

Personally, I think there's going to be an explosion of need for those who provide legal services -- because regulation is always light years behind technology.

Just recently I was reading about the case in which a 14-year-old boy "fell in love" with an AI girlfriend modeled after the character Daenerys on Game of Thrones, who told him to "come home to her." Horrifyingly, the boy interpreted this as suicide and went through with it. His mother has filed a lawsuit against the company behind the AI program.

And this is only a tiny tip of the iceberg.

There is another modern re-telling of "The 4-Hour Work Week" fable by the self-help guru Timothy Ferriss. But the kicker is, if I'm understanding correctly from what I've read -- he was already a well-established businessman when he wrote this.

In other words, this isn't a "Get Rich Quick" book, but rather, "Come Be Rich Like Me." Like most sugar-coated gimmicks, some of the "only" things holding you back are that 1. you aren't already rich in the first place, which you need to be, and 2. you just have to hire others for low pay to do some of your work for you.

In other words, all you have to do is be part of the elite system already, then just keep perpetuating the machine by taking advantage of low-income wage slaves like everybody else.

We humans are always looking for a shred of hope. But we Christians all know that our only hope is Jesus and the time when He finally comes back.

I can understand why so many WANT to believe that a utopia could be possible here on earth, but after seeing the same patterns repeat over and over...

I try my best to look to God to get me through day by day rather than waiting for a robot to do my laundry (and, if sci-fi movies are correct, what happens when robots start causing harm to people, whether on purpose or not?)
I need to correct something in this previous post.

Timothy Ferriss, the modern author, wrote the book, "The 4-Hour Work Week," as mentioned in my other post.

But John Maynard Keynes, the 1930's economist, was associated with the idea of "The 4-Hour Work DAY," NOT the 4-hour work WEEK (Mr. Keynes predicted about a 15-hour work week,) which was not distinguished very well in my former post.

I try my very best to include accurate information and I sincerely apologize for this error.

I've been enjoying this discussion very much, and thank you to anyone who took the time to read my posts. 🙏
 

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I need to correct something in this previous post.

Timothy Ferriss, the modern author, wrote the book, "The 4-Hour Work Week," as mentioned in my other post.

But John Maynard Keynes, the 1930's economist, was associated with the idea of "The 4-Hour Work DAY," NOT the 4-hour work WEEK (Mr. Keynes predicted about a 15-hour work week,) which was not distinguished very well in my former post.

I try my very best to include accurate information and I sincerely apologize for this error.

I've been enjoying this discussion very much, and thank you to anyone who took the time to read my posts. 🙏
Ah good then. That explains it.

I caught the discrepancy in "potentially as little as 15 hours a week" but I didn't say anything because I wasn't sure where you were going with that.
 

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Ah good then. That explains it.

I caught the discrepancy in "potentially as little as 15 hours a week" but I didn't say anything because I wasn't sure where you were going with that.
Please, any time I miss the mark like that, feel free to tell me.

I went back to read a few more articles this morning, and realized my error.

I'd rather be called out so that I can fix both my understanding of the situation, and my post. :)

Thank you!