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I agree. There are so many of them. Mike Murdoch is another one. I think that Benny Hinn and him are friends. Its sad because I used to really believe what these people taught (The Prosperity Gospel) It is a LIE. But God opened my eyes. I'm very sorry for people like Benny and pray for him and others. The word says we are to love others as our selves and he really needs our prayer. I kind of hope that he loses all the money he has so that he realizes what he is doing. I pray that God save his soul. In Jesus name, amen.
Its funny how believers deny the supernatural and the power of the Holy Spirit and unbelievers are open to it. I guess it serves one of its purposes in bringing glory to God and aiding in people receiving Jesus Christ ("for it is the goodness of God that leads men to repentance"). How is it that so many people who operate in the supernatural are torn down by fellow believers in the body of Christ? Why is it that persecution is coming from within the body of Christ, towards people who are children of God? Why are believers so close minded to the moving of God, and in denial of God moving in this day and age? Maybe we should play that song "God's not dead, hes surely alive!"
For what reason do believers give caution to others in regards to people who God has empowered for His purposes? Deceit? Lies? Are they jealous? Are they ignorant of what God is doing in this day? One might be inclined to ask, "Do they truly want people to receive the truth of the Gospel, Jesus Christ?" For those in opposition to the supernatural(healings, miracles, deliverance, signs and wonders, etc), they are working against God's very heart.
For what reason do believers give caution to others in regards to people who God has empowered for His purposes? Deceit? Lies? Are they jealous? Are they ignorant of what God is doing in this day? One might be inclined to ask, "Do they truly want people to receive the truth of the Gospel, Jesus Christ?" For those in opposition to the supernatural(healings, miracles, deliverance, signs and wonders, etc), they are working against God's very heart.
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I think it's amusing how everyone who believes in the modern false signs always resort to the "you are denying God's power" line. Who do you think Jesus is referring to here:
Matthew 7
[SUP]15 [/SUP]“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. [SUP]16 [/SUP]By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? [SUP]17 [/SUP]Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. [SUP]18 [/SUP]A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. [SUP]19 [/SUP]Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. [SUP]22 [/SUP]Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ [SUP]23 [/SUP]Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Surely those who believe in the sufficiency of scripture do not fall under this category. The miracles of the bible are spread out and not commonplace, but people seem to fail to realize this. They were at certain times, for certain people, to confirm for those witnessing them that God was actually speaking. It's a farcry to compare the fake stuff we see today to an actual, NATURE DEFYING miracle of God. We do not deny the power of God. Those who make a mockery of a true miracle deny the power of God and turn it into a stage show put on by charlatans.
What we see today are not signs and wonders from God but easily debunked lies. It's faith in things they can see and caters to the flesh while the bible teaches that true faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God, not some people being slapped on the forehead and falling over or an "encounter" with God in some strange unbiblical vision.
Matthew 7
[SUP]15 [/SUP]“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. [SUP]16 [/SUP]By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? [SUP]17 [/SUP]Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. [SUP]18 [/SUP]A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. [SUP]19 [/SUP]Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. [SUP]22 [/SUP]Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ [SUP]23 [/SUP]Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Surely those who believe in the sufficiency of scripture do not fall under this category. The miracles of the bible are spread out and not commonplace, but people seem to fail to realize this. They were at certain times, for certain people, to confirm for those witnessing them that God was actually speaking. It's a farcry to compare the fake stuff we see today to an actual, NATURE DEFYING miracle of God. We do not deny the power of God. Those who make a mockery of a true miracle deny the power of God and turn it into a stage show put on by charlatans.
What we see today are not signs and wonders from God but easily debunked lies. It's faith in things they can see and caters to the flesh while the bible teaches that true faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God, not some people being slapped on the forehead and falling over or an "encounter" with God in some strange unbiblical vision.
I think they remember and believe it. We believe the miracles written of. We also believe we have everything we need pertaining to life and godliness and are to be on guard against pollution that undermines and slanders the Gospel, even when done in the name of Christ. The fact that they do these things in the name of God makes it even more dangerous and gives us even more of a reason to make people aware of it.
We are warned countless times of this and to let it all slide simply because they claim to be doing it int he name of Jesus is a grave error in judgement.
No one is saying God can't do it, or God won't do it, but when it's obviously false, we are to contend for the faith and contend against the lies that destroy the image of God in the eyes of onlookers. These are modern movements that are ripe with heresy and immorality among the leadership. It's plain as the sun int he sky that something is wrong.
We are warned countless times of this and to let it all slide simply because they claim to be doing it int he name of Jesus is a grave error in judgement.
No one is saying God can't do it, or God won't do it, but when it's obviously false, we are to contend for the faith and contend against the lies that destroy the image of God in the eyes of onlookers. These are modern movements that are ripe with heresy and immorality among the leadership. It's plain as the sun int he sky that something is wrong.
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you are still missing the main point let me see if I can teach some real understanding. Many accused and called Jesus a false prophet. Many of the disciples ran in the face of sure death they denied Jesus turned their back and tucked tail. Many screamed how much they loved him but not enough to die for him.
The donkey talking appeared to be false to the natural man who saw it. It was a supernatural event that caused him stop and re evaluate his position. I'm saying
MANY NEED TO STOP AND RE EVALUATE THEIR POSITION.
calling A MAN A FALSE PROPHET IS AN HONOR IF THEY CALLED Jesus THE SAME FOR THE THINGS HE WAS DOING. not ONE PERSON HAS FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE AND HAS SPOKEN TO ANY OF THE FALSE PROPHETS FACE TO FACE SO ITS HERE SAY AT BEST. the MANY WHO TYPE ONLIE AND ARE NOT IN THE VINEYARD GATHERING MANY OF THE GRAPES THAT ARE READY FOR HARVEST ARE THE ONES WHO CONCERNE ME.
many OF THE SO CALLED FALSE PROPHETS WIN MANY SOULS TO THE KINGDOM IS THAT FALSE? if THAT IS SO WHY WOULD GOD ALLOW THAT? he WOULDNT. so MANY ARE QUICK TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY DONT KNOW. if GOD TAKES THE FOOLISH THINGS TO COUNFOUND THE WISE THEN MANY ARE CONFOUNDED RIGHT. THE WORD SAYS HE THAT WINS SOULS IS WISE! SO I GUESS MANY OF THE FALSE PROPHETS ARE WISER THAN MANY OF THE POSTERS.
LOOK IT MAKES ME SAD THAT WE FOCUS ON TEARING DOWN THE WORK OF OTHERS AND ONLY WORK FROM BEHIND THE SCENES AND BEHIND THE KEYBOARDS AND NOT DO ANYTHING BUT COMPLAIN.
IF THE ISSUES IS ABOUT THE MIS APPROPATION OF MONEY AND EXTRAVANGANCE I AGREE WITH BEING ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT BUT ITS NOT A DEAL BREAKER AS I KNOW MANY HAVE A HARD TIME BALANCING CARNALITY WITH SPIRITUALITY.
Here IS A THOUGHT IF ALL THEM THAT HOLLER MONEY IS AN ISSUE WOULD SELL ALL THEY HAVE FOLLOW JESUS AND EMPTY THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS MANY WOULD JUST NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT. YET WE FIND FOLKS TEARING DOWN THE CLEAR WORK OF GOD IN WAYS MANY JUST MAY NOT RECONIZE.
NOW I WILL AGREE THAT MANY HIGH PROFILE MINISTERS HAVE SOME WAYS I DO NOT UNDERSTAND AS THE WAY I DO THINGS OR MY TEACHING.BUT I AM WISE ENOUGH NOT TO TEAR THEM DOWN OR EVEN TALK AGAINST THEM BECAUSE I DONT KNOW WHAT IS BETWEEN THEM AND GOD AND AT THE END OF THE DAY IT IS GOD THAT WILL JUSDGE THEM EVEN THOUGH WE SEE IT AND LOOK MANY COULD BE WRONG.
SO HERE IS MY LAST THOUGHT IF YOU ARE RIGHT WHAT IS YOUR SOLUTION? IF YOU ARE WRONG WHAT IS YOUR SOLUTION? EXCUSE CAP LOCK IMNOT HOLLERING IT JUST GOT STUCK!!!!!!!
PASTAC
The donkey talking appeared to be false to the natural man who saw it. It was a supernatural event that caused him stop and re evaluate his position. I'm saying
MANY NEED TO STOP AND RE EVALUATE THEIR POSITION.
calling A MAN A FALSE PROPHET IS AN HONOR IF THEY CALLED Jesus THE SAME FOR THE THINGS HE WAS DOING. not ONE PERSON HAS FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE AND HAS SPOKEN TO ANY OF THE FALSE PROPHETS FACE TO FACE SO ITS HERE SAY AT BEST. the MANY WHO TYPE ONLIE AND ARE NOT IN THE VINEYARD GATHERING MANY OF THE GRAPES THAT ARE READY FOR HARVEST ARE THE ONES WHO CONCERNE ME.
many OF THE SO CALLED FALSE PROPHETS WIN MANY SOULS TO THE KINGDOM IS THAT FALSE? if THAT IS SO WHY WOULD GOD ALLOW THAT? he WOULDNT. so MANY ARE QUICK TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY DONT KNOW. if GOD TAKES THE FOOLISH THINGS TO COUNFOUND THE WISE THEN MANY ARE CONFOUNDED RIGHT. THE WORD SAYS HE THAT WINS SOULS IS WISE! SO I GUESS MANY OF THE FALSE PROPHETS ARE WISER THAN MANY OF THE POSTERS.
LOOK IT MAKES ME SAD THAT WE FOCUS ON TEARING DOWN THE WORK OF OTHERS AND ONLY WORK FROM BEHIND THE SCENES AND BEHIND THE KEYBOARDS AND NOT DO ANYTHING BUT COMPLAIN.
IF THE ISSUES IS ABOUT THE MIS APPROPATION OF MONEY AND EXTRAVANGANCE I AGREE WITH BEING ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT BUT ITS NOT A DEAL BREAKER AS I KNOW MANY HAVE A HARD TIME BALANCING CARNALITY WITH SPIRITUALITY.
Here IS A THOUGHT IF ALL THEM THAT HOLLER MONEY IS AN ISSUE WOULD SELL ALL THEY HAVE FOLLOW JESUS AND EMPTY THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS MANY WOULD JUST NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT. YET WE FIND FOLKS TEARING DOWN THE CLEAR WORK OF GOD IN WAYS MANY JUST MAY NOT RECONIZE.
NOW I WILL AGREE THAT MANY HIGH PROFILE MINISTERS HAVE SOME WAYS I DO NOT UNDERSTAND AS THE WAY I DO THINGS OR MY TEACHING.BUT I AM WISE ENOUGH NOT TO TEAR THEM DOWN OR EVEN TALK AGAINST THEM BECAUSE I DONT KNOW WHAT IS BETWEEN THEM AND GOD AND AT THE END OF THE DAY IT IS GOD THAT WILL JUSDGE THEM EVEN THOUGH WE SEE IT AND LOOK MANY COULD BE WRONG.
SO HERE IS MY LAST THOUGHT IF YOU ARE RIGHT WHAT IS YOUR SOLUTION? IF YOU ARE WRONG WHAT IS YOUR SOLUTION? EXCUSE CAP LOCK IMNOT HOLLERING IT JUST GOT STUCK!!!!!!!
PASTAC
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Have you ever even looked into what he teaches? Did it line up with GODS WORD? And if there was one confirmed documented "healings, miracles, deliverance, signs and wonders, etc", then you may have a small point, but why should we just believe a guy on TV when there are MANY that will testify to his "miracles" being an act an 100% fake from those he performed them on, emphasis on preformed. So we should just believe this proven deceiver? Doesn’t seem logical when we are told to test them as well, and ol’ Benny fails that test brother. While I don’t see much fruit in bashing them online, exposing them is another thing we are called to do, no?
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David had the opportunity to slay Saul, but he did not. Do you know why? David said "I will not lift my hand against the Lord's annointed." Just because I do not agree with a pastor I'm not going to trash them. I'm not talking about cults but there are preachers who while I do not agree with them doesn't mean God is not using them.
This all inclusive, everything can go as long as they claim to be from God is a dangerous attitude and not biblically sound. If someone claims they are anointed by God, it does not mean they are anointed by God. Trashing them is one thing, and I agree we shouldn't do that. Exposing their error is entirely different and we are told to do so.
2 Peter 2
2 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
2 Timothy 4
4 I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: [SUP]2 [/SUP]preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, [SUP]4 [/SUP]and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. [SUP]5 [/SUP]As for you, always be sober-minded, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.
Matthew 7
[SUP]15 [/SUP]“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. [SUP]16 [/SUP]You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? [SUP]17 [/SUP]So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. [SUP]18 [/SUP]A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. [SUP]19 [/SUP]Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. [SUP]22 [/SUP]On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ [SUP]23 [/SUP]And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
The list goes on and on. How in the world does Jesus equate doing miracles and casting out demons in his name to lawlessness? WHAT was he thinking?
2 Peter 2
2 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
2 Timothy 4
4 I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: [SUP]2 [/SUP]preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, [SUP]4 [/SUP]and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. [SUP]5 [/SUP]As for you, always be sober-minded, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.
Matthew 7
[SUP]15 [/SUP]“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. [SUP]16 [/SUP]You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? [SUP]17 [/SUP]So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. [SUP]18 [/SUP]A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. [SUP]19 [/SUP]Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. [SUP]22 [/SUP]On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ [SUP]23 [/SUP]And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
The list goes on and on. How in the world does Jesus equate doing miracles and casting out demons in his name to lawlessness? WHAT was he thinking?
- [h=3]Benny Hinn's False Prophecies - Christian Research Institute[/h]www.equip.org › Hank Speaks Out
Jun 12, 2009 - Over the past 15 years Benny Hinn, along with a lot of other Faith teachers, have continued to add to a list of spurious prophecies and ...
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Then by all means expose error. As I can expose yours! Have you met with Binny Hinn personally? That would be my first question. Have you prayed to God about Binny Hinn would be my second? My third are you sure you want to cast stones? My fourth would be. If you have an ought with a brother you are supposed to follow scripture.
The same scripture you quote for your reasoning or does what YOU are supposed to do not apply? Fifth Did God sanction you before time to a ministry of exposing his selected? Sixth are you selected by God are you a false prophet? Just some things to ponder. Lastly Are you the Judge or God your scripture that you use says God is>
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The same scripture you quote for your reasoning or does what YOU are supposed to do not apply? Fifth Did God sanction you before time to a ministry of exposing his selected? Sixth are you selected by God are you a false prophet? Just some things to ponder. Lastly Are you the Judge or God your scripture that you use says God is>
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Somewhere Paul; mentions that others were preaching about Jesus... even though they were not part of the 'in crowd". In short, Paul said, "Big deal!" As long as Jesus is preached... whatever their motive might be... don't worry about it."
So, maybe we don't agree with the messenger... as long as they preach the gospel... allow God to straighten them out. Now, I am not a "fan" of Benny Hinn... or any other TV preacher... but, somehow I can't see their heart... but, God can.
So, maybe we don't agree with the messenger... as long as they preach the gospel... allow God to straighten them out. Now, I am not a "fan" of Benny Hinn... or any other TV preacher... but, somehow I can't see their heart... but, God can.