Easter: Pagan or Christian?

[JayWalker]

so, i did 5 seconds of research on that question. Ai synopsis below:

AI teaches false doctrine

Those relying on Ai are being primed for deception.

In the boiling a frog in water kinda of way (deception increases little at a time)

 

[TruthDefender]

Doesn't look like Rome is the culprit for the translation issue:

Latin Vulgate stemming from the 4th century uses pascha.

Douay-Rheims 1582 & 1610 (Catholic translation from Latin Vulgate into English): use Pasche

Wasn’t the last supper actually the Passover? This He instituted as the communion feast before He died; our example to continue on the first day of the week, when the disciples came together.

 

[JayWalker]

Wasn’t the last supper actually the Passover?

Notice Jesus didn't called it "easter" and made no mention of bunny wabbits laying different colored eggs around the yard that the children needed to go out and find

 

[TruthDefender]

Notice Jesus didn't called it "easter" and made no mention of bunny wabbits laying different colored eggs around the yard that the children needed to go out and find

Yep, this is why it sounds pagan and Catholic.

 

[SonJudgment]

They're gonna be real blown when they realize even the Easter Bunny is Christian and was made by Christians to symbolize and help talk about the resurrection of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (since they come out of their holes in the Spring like how Jesus came out the tomb). Praise Jesus.

 

[Squigglylines]

Rabbits don't hibernate.

 

[SonJudgment]

Rabbits don't hibernate.

You're right but Christians in the late-medieval period in Europe probably didn't know that. I think they were going for the symbolic aspect to then exrapolate a message on the resurrection rather than a strict scientific one.

 

[Squigglylines]

You're right but Christians in the late-medieval period in Europe probably didn't know that. I think they were going for the symbolic aspect to then exrapolate a message on the resurrection rather than a strict scientific one.

It's a wonder the Europeans even survived the late-medieval period not knowing when they could hunt rabbits to eat and all.

 

[studier]

Wasn’t the last supper actually the Passover? This He instituted as the communion feast before He died; our example to continue on the first day of the week, when the disciples came together.

I'd prefer to just stick with translation issues, which is what I initially commented on.

As far I as I can tell, Luther influenced Tyndale, and Luther about 4 years before Tyndale used ostern for pascha, from which came Tyndale's ester.

It also looks like within a few years Tyndale uses ester to translate the OC as well.

Theology...

 

[studier]

It's a wonder the Europeans even survived the late-medieval period not knowing when they could hunt rabbits to eat and all.

Reminds me of work men have done to show that men had the same intelligence as men of today but it was just focused on different things.

I watched a video of a retired carpenter who decided to use some basic physics to show one man alone could move 20,000lb blocks and position and raise them as was likely done in the pyramids. The end estimate is that to build a pyramid would have taken about 400 men about 2 years to build.

It is amazing that men of old didn't know about the habits of rabbits.

Funny discussion...

 

[Squigglylines]

Reminds me of work men have done to show that men had the same intelligence as men of today but it was just focused on different things.

I watched a video of a retired carpenter who decided to use some basic physics to show one man alone could move 20,000lb blocks and position and raise them as was likely done in the pyramids. The end estimate is that to build a pyramid would have taken about 400 men about 2 years to build.

It is amazing that men of old didn't know about the habits of rabbits.

Funny discussion...

It's possible I suppose that not everyone's father taught their children when to hunt rabbits and they just got them in the frozen section at Walmart back in those day's? Who knows right...

 

[SonJudgment]

It's a wonder the Europeans even survived the late-medieval period not knowing when they could hunt rabbits to eat and all.

Rabbits aren't actually good survival food because they're so lean lol. The relationship between the rabbits and the medieval European Christian incel monks is.......interesting.

Medieval Marginalia: At It Like Rabbits

The pages of medieval manuscripts might be something that sounds very boring, but for those in the know, they read more like fantastical comic books. Pages upon pages of doodles in the margins show…

justhistoryposts.com

 

[studier]

It's possible I suppose that not everyone's father taught their children when to hunt rabbits and they just got them in the frozen section at Walmart back in those day's? Who knows right...

Was going to admit I was one of the supermarket guys, but seemed unimportant. Never got past the recreational catch and eat fish stage.

 

[John146]

It was used in error

They should have just said passover rather than borrowing from pagan religious practices

meta to pascha means "after Passover", but the same term, Pascha, is used for Easter in most languages. English and German are peculiar in calling it Easter (or in German, Ostern) rather than using a term derived from Pesach (Hebrew) / Pascha (Greek) for Passover.

The actual word the KJV translators translated in error to say "easter" is pascha (Strong's G3957)

of Aramaic origin (compare H6453); the Passover (the meal, the day, the festival or the special sacrifices connected with it): KJV -- Easter, Passover.

H6453 - pecach -- pronounced: peh'-sakh

from 6452; a pretermission, i.e. exemption; used only technically of the Jewish Passover (the festival or the victim): KJV -- passover (offering).

And the translators obviously knew what "pascha" meant. But, after the cross, Christ fulfilled the Passover. Something new has come, no more Passover to be observed, but Christ our Passover.

 

[John146]

Hmmm... rather like how King James Only advocates want to dictate their moral superiority and self-righteousness to true believers in Christ.

Nope, not a chance. I have a bible that is superior, but I am altogether a sinner saved by grace.

 

[John146]

@John146

thank you for the video, it was good to get my mind working again.

Good to have conversations and bible study even if we see things differently. Getting in the word is always a good thing.

 

[studier]

but Christ our Passover.

glad you didn't say Christ our easter.

 

[TruthDefender]

I'd prefer to just stick with translation issues, which is what I initially commented on.

As far I as I can tell, Luther influenced Tyndale, and Luther about 4 years before Tyndale used ostern for pascha, from which came Tyndale's ester.

It also looks like within a few years Tyndale uses ester to translate the OC as well.

Theology...

Well, He did say, do this in remembrance of Me.

Matthew 26:26-29 NKJV
Mark 14:22-25 NKJV
Luke 22:7, 15-20 NKJV
John 6:48-58 NKJV

 

[Dino246]

glad you didn't say Christ our easter.

If he were actually consistent and had integrity, he would say “Christ our Easter”. Of course, both qualities are rare among KJV-only advocates.

 

[posthuman]

Luke is talking about Passover.

clearly. he uses the word for it.