Based on your mysterious belief of being crucified with Jesus on His cross thousands of years ago, and also risen from the dead with Him three days after, I'm no longer interested nor complexed by your mysterious readings of what I teach from Scripture.So believe that God didn't save the murdering adulterer King David. You believe that God first saved him, then He condemned him after he sinned. Your theology is very strange, it makes no sense at all.
You believe that the Apostle Paul was another one who made a false profession of faith so he wasn't saved either. Paul admitted that he tried to resist temptation but it overwhelmed him and made him sin against his will.
Your theology is self defeating, and your version of the gospel makes salvation dependant on the dead sinner rather than the Lord Jesus.
There is only one Spirit's baptism. There is only one water baptism.Yes, water baptism for remission of sins was only preached in Acts, but the baptism in the name of Jesus that continues must refer to SB rather than to WB, because Eph. 4:4-6 teaches that there is only one baptism. Right?
Already corrected. Paul preached opitional flesh circumcsion, not water baptism as an option.Paul writes that the circumcision that matters/is salvific is SC, not PC, and thus it is logical that he implies the same thing about WB when he writes that there is only one baptism. Right?
No apotle ever writes that water baptism is become optional.A figure is equivalent to a shadow, which Paul writes is not the reality per Col. 2:16-17, and nowhere does he command WB or say that it is necessary. Right?
There is only one Spirit's baptism. There is only one water baptism.
1Pe 3:21
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
This is not the Spirit's baptism that save us from sin, because it's not the baptism that washes away the filth of sin.
The Spirit's baptism is not a figure, but the heavenly true. Only water baptism remains a figure of the true, and is in answer to having a cleansed conscience by the Spirit's baptism.
Peter continued to preach water baptism to the churches, as commissioned by our Lord Jesus Christ.
Already corrected. Paul preached opitional flesh circumcsion, not water baptism as an option.
Your wording of baptismal 'transition' is true, when pertaining to no longer for remission of sins. Your transitioning water baptism it's from to optional is false.
You're throwing out the commissioned baby with the bad bathwater.
No apotle ever writes that water baptism is become optional.
Mat 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Jesus commissioned baptism with preaching the gospel. If one is become optional, so also the other.
If jesus does not by Scripture decommission water baptism to an option, then neither should we by our own will alone.
How about you explain the "False Prophet" and the "Harlot".Whoa. You have entered into a world of deep mysticism.
Rev 17:5
And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Now we have a mystery of us today, as being crucified with Jesus on His cross near two thousand years ago, and also resurrected with Him three days after...
2Ti 2:17
And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
2Th 2:10
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Rev 2:24
But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, that they speak;
It's no wonder why some never quote Scripture, and instead teach their own mysterious illusion.
That is two baptisms you have there.There is only one Spirit's baptism. There is only one water baptism.
The Bible does not teach that born-again believers are entirely sinless in this life. While regeneration (the new birth) breaks the ruling power of sin, every Christian continues to battle remaining sin, experience internal corruption, and commit actual sins until physical their death.The Scriptures I teach are full of rebuke for any foundation of justification by faith while doing evil.
We preach people of God doing good, and not evil. We don't preach 'good people'.
3 John{1:11}
Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that is doing good is of God: but he that is doing evil hath not seen God.
We should judge righteoiusly by Scripture, and not judge others by our own continued unrighteousness.
2Co 10:12
They that judge themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.
From His judgment seat in the air, the righteous Lord first judges us that name His name, between the wheat doing good, and the tares doing unrighteousness.
From His kingdom seat in Jerusalem, He then judges the nations between the sheep, that enter into His Millenial kingdom, and the goats, that are destroyed from the earth.
And finally, from His great white throne in heaven, He judges all the rest of the dead, that had no part in His blessed first resurrection of His righteous wheat.
No transgressor on earth is acquitted from transgressions, because Jesus was killed by transgressors on a cross.
If by Jesus' death only transgressors are acquitted, then all transgressors of the world are acquitted.
Christians declaring they will go to heaven, while doing the same as others that will go to hell, are the reason why unbelievers of the world are given cause to mock the gospel of grace and faith.
Rom 2:23
Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God. For the name of God is blasphemed among the nations through you, as it is written.
The Jews trust in having the words of the law alone to justify themselves, while transgressing the words of the law; And the Christians trust in having the words of faith alone to justify themselves, while disobeying the word of faith.
Romans{1:4}
By Jesus Christ whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name: Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:
Only believers obeying the faith of God are justified with God.
If we are the transgressors, we are the goats that trasngress God's commandments. We are what we do, not only what we believe we are.
Mat 12:33
Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
Transgressions are only committed by goats of the world, not by sheep of God.
1Sa 24:13
As saith the proverb of the ancients, Wickedness proceedeth from the wicked:
1Jo 3:8
He that is committing sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning.
If our works are unrighteous in the end, then we burn with them.
Heb 10:29
For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
Likewise, if our ministry leads the believers into transgression, then as destructive ministers we likewise perish with them that trangress by our false word of faith.
2Pe 2:1
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 Peter{2:19}
While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
If we minister continued sinning with continued justification by our faith only, then we minister death and destruction to the decieved hearers; who therefore continue transgressing God's words, while counting themselves justified by our unrighteous faith alone.
Isa 30:9
That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD: Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits: Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.
Isaiah{28:14}
Wherefore hear the word of the LORD, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem. Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
I think I finally understand what you're trying to say. In your own personal religion, you believe that Christians don't have forgiveness while they're murdering and committing adultery, but as soon as their lust has been temporarily satisfied, they can then repent, confess their sin and receive instant absolution.Your mistatements about my teaching is consistent and contradictory to what I teach.
There is no forgiveness for any person, that is committing sin. There is only forgiveness for believers that repent and confess the committed sin.
1Jo 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Believers that have committed sin, are washed clean by confession with godly sorrow. Any one committing sin, is unclean by their own lust for sin.
Jas 1:14
Every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
No person is justified with God, while doing evil. So also our faith does not justify us, if we are transgressing God's commandment.
By trasngression our faith is made no better than devils, who also believe and confess Jesus is the Christ.
Jas 2:19
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Mar 1:24
Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God.
Tit 1:16
They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient,
When you state my teaching of Scripture accurately, then you get a yes or no answer. But when you mistate my teaching of the Scripture, the same as you mistate Scripture itself, then all you get is a correction.
The reason you mistate both Scripture and teaching of Scripture, is because you never quote either, but only say it's wrong, because it rebukes your own personal religion of sinning with justification.
I'm not sure why you don't believe what God has said about this matter. I have already mentioned King David a few times and you still don't believe that he was saved.1Jo 3:15
Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
If we find ourselves justifying murderers, adulterers, and all manner of evil doers, in order to justify our gospel of faith, set apart from our works; Then we surely know that we are fulfilliung the prophesied warning to all the churches of God:
2Pe 2:1
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2Pe 3:3
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
2Th 2:2
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
That minister of sin is revealed in the end...
You may consider Gods Word to be "deep mysticism", but I don't. Galatians 2:20 exposes your unbelief. "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me."Whoa. You have entered into a world of deep mysticism.
Rev 17:5
And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Now we have a mystery of us today, as being crucified with Jesus on His cross near two thousand years ago, and also resurrected with Him three days after...
2Ti 2:17
And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
2Th 2:10
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Rev 2:24
But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, that they speak;
It's no wonder why some never quote Scripture, and instead teach their own mysterious illusion.
Your interpretation of scripture is unbiblical. It's based on your own private opinions, and it's inconsistent.Based on your mysterious belief of being crucified with Jesus on His cross thousands of years ago, and also risen from the dead with Him three days after, I'm no longer interested nor complexed by your mysterious readings of what I teach from Scripture.
Afterall, you can't get any more mysterious from such a reading of Scripture itself in the first place...
You're losing your focus here, and making absurd statements.Paul did NOT write that there is 1 WB + 1 SB; you are making that up.
Thanks for repeating me. Repitition is high praise.1Pet. 3:21 says that WB does not save us, but rather a good conscience, which can only occur when we are Spirit-filled following SB.
Jesus Christ commissions water baptism with His gospel preaching. No apostle decommissioned water baptism to an optional 'rite'.If the apostles did not say WB was required, then obviously it was NOT required, because they would not omit something required.
Circumcision became transitional at the cross, water baptism remains commissioned by Jesus Christ to His church.Viewing Jesus' and Peter's requirement of WB as a transitional teaching rather than as a permanent requirement seems to be the only way to harmonize all of the Scriptures regarding this topic. Right?
Be glad to.How about you explain the "False Prophet" and the "Harlot".
Seeing that you mentioned the last day and the minister of sin.
2. False teaching in Scripture is at times referred to as harlotry, and leads God's people astray in breaking His commandments, who are also called adulterers and harlots. Such bad teaching is not from simple errors of Scripture, but are destructive teachings that defiles the temple and body of Christ.How about you explain the "False Prophet" and the "Harlot".
Seeing that you mentioned the last day and the minister of sin.
Here is why I quote Mystery Babylon for that last teaching of yours.How about you explain the "False Prophet" and the "Harlot".
Seeing that you mentioned the last day and the minister of sin.
Men's hands don't finish the inner man's work of the Spirit.That is two baptisms you have there.
One is the fulfillment of the other.
Mat 15:14The Bible does not teach that born-again believers are entirely sinless in this life. While regeneration (the new birth) breaks the ruling power of sin, every Christian continues to battle remaining sin, experience internal corruption, and commit actual sins until physical their death.
The apostle warns that if we are committing works of darkness, and say we are in the light, we are liars against the truth. Likewise, if we say we have no sin, and are transgressing the holy commandment.The Apostle John warns that claiming to possess no sin is self-deception and makes God a liar (1 John 1:8–10).
Already corrected the errorneous lifetime theology made of Romans 7, to remain double hearted evil doers unto the grave.In Romans 7, Paul openly describes his ongoing, agonizing daily war against indwelling sin. The Bible provides instructions for when a believer sins, noting that "we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous" (1 John 2:1).
So says one who never quotes a single verse of Scripture for a double hearted religion of sinning unto death.You still haven't found a single verse to support your private unbiblical opinion that born again believers lose our salvation when we sin. So please find that elusive verse or just admit it doesn't exist outside of your imagination.
Exactly. No one doing evil is justified with the righteous Lord Jesus Christ.I think I finally understand what you're trying to say. In your own personal religion, you believe that Christians don't have forgiveness while they're murdering and committing adultery,
but as soon as their lust has been temporarily satisfied, they can then repent, confess their sin and receive instant absolution.
You're entitled to express your private opinion, but none of your opinions are ever given with any Scripture. They're all based on your own wisdom, and they contradict what God has said about the matter in every Scripture I've given.You're entitled to express your private opinion in a democracy, but none of your opinions line up with with Gods Word. They're all based on your own wisdom and they contradict what God has said about the matter.
Although you've quoted a Scripture, you apply it wrong. We are only crucified with Christ on our own cross, when we repent and mortify our own bodily trasngressions.You may consider Gods Word to be "deep mysticism", but I don't. Galatians 2:20 exposes your unbelief. "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me."
True. And the symbol is not truth, except we repent of all our transgressions, and take up our cross to follow Jesus.When born again believers are immersed into the water at baptism, it symbolizes dying. When we come up out of the water, it symbolizes being resurrected to a new life.
How can you be obedient to God whilst accusing Him of being a liar at the same time. Well 1 John 1:8 exposes you as the liar.Mat 15:14
They be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
Jhn 8:21
Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.
Jhn 8:24
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
The apostle warns that if we are committing works of darkness, and say we are in the light, we are liars against the truth. Likewise, if we say we have no sin, and are transgressing the holy commandment.
The apostle writes the truth, that there is no sin in Jesus Christ's holy temple and body, because He takes away our lust for sin, being wholly newborn into Him.
Already corrected the errorneous lifetime theology made of Romans 7, to remain double hearted evil doers unto the grave.
So says one who never quotes a single verse of Scripture for a double hearted religion of sinning unto death.
Nor have you acknowedged a single verse of the many Scriptures, that I've quoted for my pure religion of single hearted faith and obedience toward God.
Col 3:22
Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:
Mat 6:24
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and sin.
None of the verses you referred to above support your views. You won't find a single verse in the Bible to support your unbiblical views.Exactly. No one doing evil is justified with the righteous Lord Jesus Christ.
1Jo 3:8
He that is committing sin is of the devil; for the devil is sinning from the beginning.
That's why some Christians doing unrighteousness 'from time to time', replace God's righteousness with their own moral relativism, and pervert Jesus' pure religion into their own religion of only doing less evil than before.
And they've fed and taught it for so long, that they can hardly understand the simple truth, that if we are murdering now, we are now a murderer. The one stealing is a thief.
Therefore, God's commanded righteous repentance is not man's own relative repentance. We must repent of doing the evil. We are nto commanded to repent to do less transgressions.
Eph{4:28}
Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.
Man's relative repentance is man's own reform, to steal less than before.
Likewise, God's righteousness is doing right at all times, not only party good and partly evil at times.
Psa 106:3
Blessed are they that keep judgment, and he that is doing righteousness at all times.
And God's righteousness is to repent of all transgressions, not only in part.
Ezek 18:31
Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
Romans 7 is the wretchedness of man's own relative repentance and righteousness in the name of Christ. Until we repent God's way for His righteousness from all our transgressions, then we are not delivered by the Lord with all our sin taken away.
Rom 7:24,
O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Jhn 1:29
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
1Jo 3:5
And we know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in him is not sinning: whosoever is sinning hath not seen him, neither known him.
There is only one minor error here. This assumes we still have our old lust, which is not being a whole newborn babe in Christ.
The lamb of God takes away our old lust, while we repent of the old man's deeds. If we still have our old lust, we are still our old man.
And so, the relative repenter indeed remains the old man with old lust, and certainly will transgress again, as you confess and preach for yourselves.
But we saints are not the old man with lust of heart anymore, but rather the pure heart and new man of Christ and God. We must first concieve our own lust again, as we did once before without Christ, before we can possibly transgress His commandments.
And yet, if we do sin, not when, then we still have the Advocate for all the world, that we can repent and confess to for forgiveness and restoration to the holy house and family of God:
Luke{15:24}
For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.
You're entitled to express your private opinion, but none of your opinions are ever given with any Scripture. They're all based on your own wisdom, and they contradict what God has said about the matter in every Scripture I've given.