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PilgrimPassingThru said:
So there you go that big ol IF just took a hike because of what preceeded it, you both believe and say he has done so (in summation) and where is the verse he is speaking of there (according to your estimation) and is it Moses words according to you?
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No, the if is still present, it is a cause for review. Does he indeed make these statements and claims? Then follow the premises and the conclusion. I brought it up and said he left himself open as a form of humor, because as he knows, many people here believe him to preach a legalistic self-righteous gospel of sinless perfectionism. This being the case, it is humorous that he says he doesn't put people under a curse when God's word says that those trying to justify themselves under the law are under a curse for if they fail in one part they fail all of it (as a unit).

You come to the defense of peculiar people at times, often white tombs.
 
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miknik5 said:
Show where they said he has cursed them then. Otherwise, he once again added to his brother what he alone has added to his brother
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I posted the posted the post number already telling you what post is was laughing at (which I understood) but flew right by you and your soap box
 
miknik5 said:
And by the way. Even the one who is without sin (whoever that one is) has no right to condemn curse or rain fire down from heaven on anyone
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He said he was singing in the rain not calling down fire upon them

And his laughter will likely be twisted into laughing down curses upon them too but you cant change how folks take your words and twist them into thing like that
 
InSpiritInTruth said:
Just singing in the rain, I'm singing in the rain! :)
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Im glad your singing in the rain and not raining down fire from heaven upon your accusers

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oldethennew said:
we have been told in scripture to always be ready to JUDGE the BODY in LOVE,
look up the scriptures...
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What has been judged here on a website? That one will not exalt themselves by professing their works?

Therefore they must be guilty?
We are also told to show our brother his sin when we see our brother's sin

Not to accuse our brother of sin

Did you see someone's sin that is being judged lovingly by the members of the BODY

What is rhe sin
 
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BenFTW said:
Yes, in past discussions he has stated that a Christian sinning is no Christian at all (my summation). Just today he made this statement.
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The issue here is not about being born again, but those who only "imagine" themselves as being born again. With no spiritual rebirth, there is no true conversion, no overcoming sin, the Devil, or the ways of the world, no purging process of bringing ones thoughts into the obedience of Christ. If one is still sinning then according to the words of God, they are not truly born of God. Pretty simple test to prove oneself.
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What do the words of God say Ben?......

1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not."

Your issue seems to be with the words of God, not me. :)
 
InSpiritInTruth said:
What do the words of God say Ben?......

1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not."

Your issue seems to be with the words of God, not me. :)
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People have no issues with the word of God - just your "application" of some of them.

1 John 5:18 (NASB)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] We know that no one who is born of God sins; but He who was born of God keeps him, and the evil one does not touch him.


So, you never sin then? Is that true? Remember malice and slander count as sinning in God's eyes.

Because if you have sinned since coming to Christ ( Which I hope you have received Christ as some point in your life ) - you are not born of God.

I don't think you understand that verse nor 1 John 3:9 not 1 Peter 1:23
 
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InSpiritInTruth said:
Back at cha. :)
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I know how your game works...So, what about the reality that you still sin and thus you are not born of God?

People have no issues with the word of God - just your "application" of some of them.

1 John 5:18 (NASB)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] We know that no one who is born of God sins; but He who was born of God keeps him, and the evil one does not touch him.


So, you never sin then? Is that true? Remember malice and slander count as sinning in God's eyes.

Because if you have sinned since coming to Christ ( Which I hope you have received Christ as some point in your life ) - you are not born of God.

I don't think you understand that verse nor 1 John 3:9 nor 1 Peter 1:23 - especially the new creation in Christ - created in righteousness and holiness.
 
PilgrimPassingThru said:
I posted the posted the post number already telling you what post is was laughing at (which I understood) but flew right by you and your soap box
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I will look at it. But the issue still remains that there is division in the house and it stems from those who need to see their brothers works as some sort of validation that they are their brother.

And the brother who will not exalt his works doesn't really care to hear his brother exalt his

He knows who he is. An unworthy servant who is doing what is expected of him
 
BenFTW said:
No, the if is still present, it is a cause for review. Does he indeed make these statements and claims? Then follow the premises and the conclusion. I brought it up and said he left himself open as a form of humor, because as he knows, many people here believe him to preach a legalistic self-righteous gospel of sinless perfectionism. This being the case, it is humorous that he says he doesn't put people under a curse when God's word says that those trying to justify themselves under the law are under a curse for if they fail in one part they fail all of it (as a unit).

You come to the defense of peculiar people at times, often white tombs.
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What I meant by that is that you qualified your IF as if not really saying it but it was ONLY an IF but then come back and indicate he has (and so that IF takes a hike) you arent really defending your post according to that IF (that takes a hike)

Show where ISIT speaks against Galations 3:10 as you posted it "as if" he does.

And your last post has a problem with his mentioning being born again and Johns words about not sinning too correct?

Did ISIT (according to you) come up with those? What I mean is, is stating what John says and posting them here make them ISIT's own words?

And I try to come to defense of what is said (per the scriptures) verses what was not when the words are being all twisted up and then accused (and falsely).

I will notice moreso because I have read ISIT over the years, and I dont read many of these others who follow him around to engage him (but only in those things I read while they engage him) so I will notice what was said and what wasnt but I will also gravitate towards someone being singled out and jumped on by a pack. But I am a little infatuated by that kind of behavior and watching things get twisted and all. It can just get tiresome engaging in it for long periods of time, sometimes folks can use a hand helping them out where they might not be as guilty of doing what they are accused of.
 
Grace777x70 said:


1 John 5:18 (NASB)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] We know that no one who is born of God sins; but He who was born of God keeps him, and the evil one does not touch him.
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Is that the JP newly revised edition? 1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not."
 
InSpiritInTruth said:
What do the words of God say Ben?......

1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not."

Your issue seems to be with the words of God, not me. :)
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You missed that last part?
It is no different than what is said on John 3:9. (HIS SEED remains in him). This is why he will not continue to sin

Please read the last part of 1 John 5:18 carefully
 
PilgrimPassingThru said:
And his post 121 is off of mine (which is speaking of his being falsely accused)

And he is laughing (as was pointed out) spoofing off of that fact (of being accused of cursing Gods children) which he did not
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I will look at it when I get home. My phone does not note post numbers
 
PilgrimPassingThru said:
What I meant by that is that you qualified your IF as if not really saying it but it was ONLY an IF but then come back and indicate he has (and so that IF takes a hike) you arent really defending your post according to that IF (that takes a hike)

Show where ISIT speaks against Galations 3:10 as you posted it "as if" he does.

And your last post has a problem with his mentioning being born again and Johns words about not sinning too correct?

Did ISIT (according to you) come up with those? What I mean is, is stating what John says and posting them here make them ISIT's own words?

And I try to come to defense of what is said (per the scriptures) verses what was not when the words are being all twisted up and then accused (and falsely).

I will notice moreso because I have read ISIT over the years, and I dont read many of these others who follow him around to engage him (but only in those things I read while they engage him) so I will notice what was said and what wasnt but I will also gravitate towards someone being singled out and jumped on by a pack. But I am a little infatuated by that kind of behavior and watching things get twisted and all. It can just get tiresome engaging in it for long periods of time, sometimes folks can use a hand helping them out where they might not be as guilty of doing what they are accused of.
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Again, a cause for review. Nothing more. As far as the scripture he has provided, do you truly believe you do not sin? I am not asking you to call God a liar, the verse is true but does your conduct align itself with this truth in practicality? If not, are you not born again? Did you sin recently? Has InSpiritInTruth sinned recently? Is haughtiness a sin?

Anyways, if he claims he is without sin, do you not have a verse for that as well? I'm sure it came to the forefront of your mind, its about calling God a liar. Either way, do you think this verse has to do with the incorruptible seed as opposed to actual conduct? If not, why? If so, are you condemned? You are in quite the conundrum.
 
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