Ok, thx for taking the time to repost. At the time you put this up I was tired and annoyed by the unreasonable remarks in the deluge of trashy messages several members of this board were putting up. There was no effort to engage in what could have an interesting back and forth discussion.
This passage here illustrates my point. I`m a big fan of the epistles and have put more work into studying them then any other part of the Bible. If you took the time to read my original posts you would see that I acknowledged the one everlasting gospel (Rev 14:6) before I even began discussing the two gospel concept seen in Galatians and a few other places.
In a reasonable discussion I would have quickly come out and said the difference is the lifestyle of the Jewish churches vs lifestyle in Gentile churches and both are saved by faith in the same way.
All these claims that the Jewish churches of the 12 didn`t continue in the Law of Moses is just unreasonable. If you were a Jew in those days you did the Moses thing, you lived in a Theocracy, you would be ostracized if not killed if you abandoned it.
The scriptures I posted should have been enough to settle the argument and I had plenty more because Paul had quite a bit to say about the circumcision crowd. But I have no reason to put them up since you guys would just rant some more.
It`s naive and it isn`t historical for you to think that you disproved what I was trying to tell you. The facts both Biblical and historical back me up not you.
the above is absurd and full of excuses and manipulation
what do we have?
we have : if this was a resonable discussion THEN I would have said it was all about lifestyles
I am reasonable and you are not. I already told you that WIKI says that ALL Messianics actually also follow the law and we all know that wiki is the only reasonable place to go for information on current culture and religion
I posted scriptures that were so final and authoritative, because I posted them, that the rest of you should have shut the hee haw up
you are naive and lack historical reference and I know that because you did not agree with me
that is the actual response the op gives to the scripture he says I did not post...but I referenced it 3 times and finally he comes back with the above gobble de gook. first he denied I ever posted scripture then when it is plain I did, after 3 times posting about and finally reposting the scripture with my comments, he begrudgingly admits I did post it by denying it means anything
just how big is this ego we are dealing with here?
it's all about him.
it is not about Jesus and certainly not about the Bible
nope
it's about WIKI, his authority and false accusations
yet, we find this in the book of Acts and you do not have to read very far:
8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth Acts 1:8
those are the words of Christ as recorded by Luke, indicating Jesus told the JEWISH disciples they would be witnesses TO Jesus or OF Jesus (in our vernacular) to the uttermost part of the earth.
this alone disproves the 2 gospel dance routine but the op and several others deny this and continue to falsely proclaim two gospels
you might as well just deny Jesus and get it over with
and for the record, I am not directly responding to the op because his smarmy, condescending responses are indicative of a very dismissive person who thinks so highly of himself that he will ignore or post ad hominum responses, hoping to draw people into a personal fight rather than deal with the actual scritpure he is presented with
I wrote the above to further draw attention to the deception and disingenuous nature with the op has been contrived
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