Global warming - climate change

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AxeElf

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Care to read the whole study?

NASA Study

Nah, probly not--seems you'd rather draw your conclusions from memes. But lest anyone be deluded by them, the article describes the ice in ANTARCTICA as growing for the last 10,000 years, but says that the rate of growth is slowing and could eventually reverse itself "within a few decades." The article also cites the evidence of rising ocean levels as evidence that although the ice in Antarctica continues to increase (for now), ice must be melting in other places to account for the documented increase in sea level.
 
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What is your biblical perspective on this topic?
Jeremiah 17:


5 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.

6 For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited.

7 Blessed is the man that trusteth in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is.

8 For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.



 

tourist

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What is your biblical perspective on this topic?
I think that it is a hoax. Global cooling would be more accurate. It's called junk science. I don't have a biblical perspective but God will give a certain amount of wisdom and knowledge if this is prayed for.
 

tourist

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I'm wondering how long the OP will wait before quoting Jimmy Swaggart on the subject.
Yeah, Jimmy Swaggart take on the OP will probably be presented in short order. Of course, the only warming that he is most familiar with is hell fire.
 

Hevosmies

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This meme says it all.

This bozo is flying on a private jet spitting rawmetals of all sorts in the air and upon us, and he has the nerve to tell me to not take a warm shower?

Im convinced everyone in this world is religious, if you are an "atheist" then environmentalism and animal rights or human rights is your religion.
 

FlyingDove

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It is prophesied in two places of the Word maybe more, the the earth would lie polluted under its inhabitants for the fruit of their doing.

One very strong indication of mankind's participation in the decay of this world, this age, is what the Lord is going to do when He returns. In Revelation He promises to destroy the destroyers.
A different perspective:
When reading around Rev 11:18. It seems more likely, WAR, is the destroyer, to be destroyed, not climate change!
 

FlyingDove

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I have read these many times while reading through the Word. Now, I will look up at leas one of the places about the pollution etc...…….as well as I am able. But becaus you do not recal or perhaps have not read what I have and recall, please keep an open mind in Christ...….I know, prove all things. Boy am I glad the apostles and Jesus were not constantly assailed about chapter and verse, of course they were not numbered in those days and it sufficed for them to say "well did th eprophet say………..ok bb.
KJV Dictionary Definition: pollute

POLLU'TE, v.t. L. polluo; polluceo and possideo.

1. To defile; to make foul or unclean; in a general sense. But appropriately, among the Jews, to make unclean or impure, in a legal or ceremonial sense, so as to disqualify a person for sacred services, or to render things unfit for sacred uses. Num.18. Ex.20. 2 Kings 23. 2 Chron.36.

2. To taint with guilt.

Ye pollute yourselves with all your idols. Ezek.20.

3. To profane; to use for carnal or idolatrous purposes.

My sabbaths they greatly polluted. Ezek.20.

4. To corrupt or impair by mixture of ill, moral or physical.

Envy you my praise, and would destroy

With grief my pleasures, and pollute my joy?

5. To violate by illegal sexual commerce.
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Could the Isa text referring to climate change? Maybe, I'd say after reading the Bible dictionary meaning of pollution. The climate change application becomes quite a stretch! MOO!
 

FlyingDove

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I have read many v ersions of the Word in several languages, what I quoted from memory is from the Oxford Study Bible I believe, but here it is worded slightly differently

Isa 24:5 The earth also is polluted under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, violated the statutes, broken the everlasting covenant.

I believe the sun burning men but that is when one of the angels of Godpours out his vial on the sun.
We all know the kingdom to come is everlasting, incorruptible, while this earth and age is allied to decay. Now, how do you suppose much of the decay has come about?
Could climate change be tied to the sun burning men scripture? Maybe.

The sun's magnetic field polarity changes. Sun flares hitting earth during the Sun's changing solar cycle's. Is a far more plausible explanation to man being burned via the Sun. Then a global warming summary.

Nasa's website has lots of info on solar flares & the havoc they cause to earth. MOO!
 

FollowHisSteps

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Put things simply.
Australia is getting so hot and lacking rain, without water desalination plants they will have to leave the country.

The great barrier reef is dying because the average sea temperature is rising too much to keep them alive.

The number of hurricanes is growing, and their force because the sea temperature in the caribbean which drives
the whole effect is increasing.

The world sea level is going up due to average water temperature rising which causes the water to take up
more space. Miami is now often getting flooded and they are spending billions to raise their sea defences.

The artic is shrinking, polar bears are dying because there is not enough ice for long enough to
hunt and survive.

It the uk as the climate warms, insects and animals are appearing that like warmer climates,
and the ones that like it colder are moving north.

Each year we are starting to break records for the hottest and driest years, along with massive floods due
to there being more water in the air because it is so much warmer.

If this is not enough for you to admit the climate is getting warmer, then nothing will.
You just have to look at CO2 historical records and how they change over time. We are changing them
catastrophically.

So are you interested in truth or just conspiracies?
 

Dino246

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Put things simply.
Australia is getting so hot and lacking rain, without water desalination plants they will have to leave the country.

The great barrier reef is dying because the average sea temperature is rising too much to keep them alive.

The number of hurricanes is growing, and their force because the sea temperature in the caribbean which drives
the whole effect is increasing.

The world sea level is going up due to average water temperature rising which causes the water to take up
more space. Miami is now often getting flooded and they are spending billions to raise their sea defences.

The artic is shrinking, polar bears are dying because there is not enough ice for long enough to
hunt and survive.

It the uk as the climate warms, insects and animals are appearing that like warmer climates,
and the ones that like it colder are moving north.

Each year we are starting to break records for the hottest and driest years, along with massive floods due
to there being more water in the air because it is so much warmer.

If this is not enough for you to admit the climate is getting warmer, then nothing will.
You just have to look at CO2 historical records and how they change over time. We are changing them
catastrophically.

So are you interested in truth or just conspiracies?
After reading your post, I can only echo your closing question back to you.

So are you interested in truth or just conspiracies?
 

FollowHisSteps

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After reading your post, I can only echo your closing question back to you.
So are you interested in truth or just conspiracies?
I am interested in science and what it is saying to us.
When I was a kid, I used to cycle to school. Everyday it rained, or every other day. There were always showers.
It put me off cycling, but getting somewhere cycling was better than walking.

When I took my son to nursery, 20 years later, in rained 3 or 4 times over a two or three month period.
We did not get holidays with continuous sunshine. By the 1990's this had changed.

It is not uncommon now to have no rain for weeks on end. That is real change over my lifetime, in my experience.

What is a problem with climate change, we do not know if there is an ice age tipping point, which will
flip the whole thing off. If you get a massive white ice sheet, and reflect into space enough heat.
Or if you get a high dust cloud that obscures the sun, linked with a very cold winter might equally trigger it.

So the outcome is unknown, the instability is already here.
However it flips, we need to take precautions.
 

Lanolin

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Inconvenient truth...in nz we have many pacific islanders who can no longer live on their own islands because of rising sea levels.

Of course our climate is going to change but its always been subject to changes, however we are seeing changes that indicate something is not right with the balance of the earths ecosystem, when people can no longer live on their own land because we are poisoning the soil and atmosphere.

Acid rain is a real phenomenon,
Pollution of rivers is real due to humans industrial development. Right now people are fighting the government to get our rivers CLEAN so we can actually swim in them and fish again.
 

Lanolin

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Also americans seem not to have learned from their dustbowl disaster that saw both animals and humans starve...there was drought conditions and all their top soil blew away. All they could breathe was dust and it got in everything. And it was a man made disaster because humans were foolish about the land they were meant to look after.
 

FollowHisSteps

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Conspiracies

The most obvious 911 was an inside job, the aliens have massive hangers under the whole of the us,
government is out to get martial law imposed, the earth is flat.

These are all possible until you start looking at the facts.
And there are real conspiracies, like everyone needs a good education.

Or we need worldwide currency exchanges, with good accounting practices, we need good worldwide
health care provision and conquering illnesses that kill millions, some of which have been taken out.

Fear and paranoia if they dominate this will cause unnecessary risks.
Today with the internet we have never had freedom like this before where I can talk to you, and
we can share whatever we desire without ever having met, which is fantastic.
 

FollowHisSteps

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Eco system disaster.

We have lost 50% of all flying insects worldwide in the last 50 years. At this rate they will
be gone in 50 years. That means no pollination of plants, and whole eco systems gone.

They do not know why as yet, but this is caused by us. Possibly it is the fact the insects being
cold blooded only survive within a very tight temperature range. Raise this by a few degrees and
they die. Because this has not happened before, we have no idea the impact, but it is a one way
street, once gone down cannot be reversed.