Have You Ever Wondered: Psalm 82:6

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Psa 82:6 I said, Ye are gods, And all of you sons of the Most High.
Psa 82:7 Nevertheless ye shall die like men, And fall like one of the princes.
Psa 82:8 Arise, O God, judge the earth; For thou shalt inherit all the nations.

How can we be gods when there is but one God.

Before the word, god was used, back to Abraham, the nations referred to what we now call gods as Elohim. Elohim is the plural of El. El means mighty one. Ergo, Elohim is Mighty ones.

It evolved into the word for God and for gods.

The word, god, etymologically is traceable back to Sanskrit, where the trail gets lost from there.

Jesus, Yeshua, cried out Eli Eli Lama Sabactani. Eli, with the suffix I is my God. That suffix makes the object thereof first-person possessive, my. .

Now, aren't you ecstatic to know this, finally.
 
God was not speaking to us when He said, “You are gods”.

Rather, He was speaking to spiritual beings He created for the purpose of being co-workers in His kingdom. They had rebelled and sought worship for themselves instead of being faithful to God so He gave notice on them.

This view is explained in great detail by Dr. Michael Heiser. He passed recently, but his audio series, “The Naked Bible podcast” is available on YouTube or through his website, drmsh.com.
 
God was not speaking to us when He said, “You are gods”.

Rather, He was speaking to spiritual beings He created for the purpose of being co-workers in His kingdom. They had rebelled and sought worship for themselves instead of being faithful to God so He gave notice on them.

This view is explained in great detail by Dr. Michael Heiser. He passed recently, but his audio series, “The Naked Bible podcast” is available on YouTube or through his website, drmsh.com.

Having returned to the original Hebrew, the word employed is elohim, mighty ones. Were they rebellious angels they would be malachim.
The original meaning of the word, god is not known, however it has evolved over the centuries in English to represent the Almighty, with caps, or false gods in the lower case.

What I post is never written in stone. However, I cannot deny my linguistic understanding of the words of the Psalm quoted.
 
Having returned to the original Hebrew, the word employed is elohim, mighty ones. Were they rebellious angels they would be malachim.
The original meaning of the word, god is not known, however it has evolved over the centuries in English to represent the Almighty, with caps, or false gods in the lower case.

What I post is never written in stone. However, I cannot deny my linguistic understanding of the words of the Psalm quoted.
The word “elohim” is also used for the spirit of Samuel, whom the witch of Endor summoned when Saul requested his advice.
 
You forget it also says..."He is the King of Kings, and Lord of Lords"

Here are the direct biblical quotations you’re referring to:

Psalm 82:6

“I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.”
John 10:34 (Jesus quoting Psalm 82)

“Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?”
Deuteronomy 10:17

“For the Lord your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible…”
Revelation 19:16

“And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King of Kings, and Lord of Lords.”
 
God created ha'adam in his image. He formed his body from the earth, and breathed into him his ruach. The spirit of man was intended to be elevated above the body, since it came from God and his body came from the earth. But ha'adam subjected his spirit (mind, impetus of his life, however you like to regard it) to the rule of his flesh. Adam had god status knowing only good, ie. "it was good," and "it was very good." If ha'adam was made any less, whereby could he have ever become 'fallen'? Fallen doesn't just hint at a going back to dust after being raised alive from, and also, above it. Adam failed at his charge as a messenger of God when he failed keep charge of God's truth, and Eve failed as a messenger of God in delivering the apple to Adam.
 
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The Hebrew Tanakh points out 8 Councils like the one in Psalms and clearly they're Angels in the Council.

To die like men will happen to the Fallen Angels from the Rebellion in Genesis 6.
 
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I think...

These are men - "sons of God". I read it as a warning to the elohim - magistrates given a measure of authority from God to properly judge the affairs of men. Since their authority is delegated (and not innate) they risk losing their station by ruling unjustly.
 
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Psa 82:6 I said, Ye are gods, And all of you sons of the Most High.
Psa 82:7 Nevertheless ye shall die like men, And fall like one of the princes.
Psa 82:8 Arise, O God, judge the earth; For thou shalt inherit all the nations.

How can we be gods when there is but one God.

Before the word, god was used, back to Abraham, the nations referred to what we now call gods as Elohim. Elohim is the plural of El. El means mighty one. Ergo, Elohim is Mighty ones.

It evolved into the word for God and for gods.

The word, god, etymologically is traceable back to Sanskrit, where the trail gets lost from there.

Jesus, Yeshua, cried out Eli Eli Lama Sabactani. Eli, with the suffix I is my God. That suffix makes the object thereof first-person possessive, my. .

Now, aren't you ecstatic to know this, finally.
There is one YaHWeH (God). But there are many ‘eLoHiYM (gods, powerful ones). Why do you think that “There is one God” must mean that “There cannot be many gods”?
 
Once more, and this will be my final. Elohim may be fully translated as mighty ones. El, mighty one.
This term was utilized by the nations much, at the time of the beginning of the writings. It bears no resemblance to what has become the meaning of god or gods in English, none whatsoever.

Again, angels would be melekim. Also, we are all become sons of God come the Kingdom.

In the Tanakh, the Hebrew is speaking to elohim, merely mighty ones. This is my understanding after many decades of study. Any here are free to believe what they will, please allow ths same for others. It will all be revealed come The Day.