False doctrine.
God gives no bad laws.
Where do you find this taught by the apostles, that the NT Christian must discern between the good laws and the bad laws?
You misunderstand the OT and make God do evil.
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God gives no bad laws.
Where do you find this taught by the apostles, that the NT Christian must discern between the good laws and the bad laws?
You misunderstand the OT and make God do evil.
Loose handling of the Scriptures.
The text reads:
"On the last and greatest day of the Feast. . ." (Jn 7:37)
Context: Jesus spoke this on the last day of the Feast of Tabernacles (Jn 7:2)
for which he went to Jerusalem (Jn 7:10), where he made this statement.
It has nothing to do with the great day, the last day or the end of time.
A text without a context is a pretext.
Your hermeneutic is totally inadequate.
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A lack of love for the chosen people that God led by Moses out of Egypt indicates a lack of love for our Creator. A lack of love is evident in words we speak, as our words indicate our hearts, whether they be made of stone or flesh.
One can preach love and grace until Yahshua returns, but living it is the best testimony.
If you love Messiah, then you will recognize His Words, as He spoke as a True and Faithful Son.
[h=3]Luke 23:34[/h]King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]34 [/SUP]Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
One can preach love and grace until Yahshua returns, but living it is the best testimony.
If you love Messiah, then you will recognize His Words, as He spoke as a True and Faithful Son.
[h=3]Luke 23:34[/h]King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]34 [/SUP]Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
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God forbid!! I am saying that Messiah/Jesus agrees with Father in all points, there is no wavering at all!!!!!!!!! You are the one who argues that Jesus abolished things He did not! Scripture does not correct you, and I doubt I will. The New Testament agrees with the Old Testament. Never have I suggested otherwise.
What I have said, I disagree with you! Certainly you are not Jesus!
And you are?
So then you agree with the Christ Jesus that
1) all foods are clean (Mk 7:19),
2) that love fulfills the whole law (Mt 22:37-40),
3) that all who do not receive Jesus of Nazareth as their Savior are condemned (Jn 3:18, 36),
4) that we are under a new covenant, the one promised in Jer 31:31 (Lk 22:20)?
And you agree with the words Jesus spoke in these last days (Heb 1:1-2)
in his revelation through the NT writers (Lk 24:27, 44-45) that
5) the Aaronic priesthood has been changed to the order of Melchizedek (Heb 7:11),
6) where the new eternal, never-ending High Priest (Heb 7:20) is also King,
7) that the change of priesthood required a change of the law (Heb 7:12)
which was established on the basis of the priesthood (Heb 7:11),
8) that the law has been set aside because it was weak and useless for righteousness
(Heb 7:18-19),
9) and that a new and better hope than the law; i.e., the new covenant, by which we draw
near to God has been inaugurated (Heb 7:19; Lk 22:20),
10) that the new covenant has made the old (Mosaic) covenant obsolete (Heb 8:13),
11) that salvation from God's wrath (Ro 5:9) is not based on works of righteousness,
12) but only on faith in Christ Jesus (Eph 2:8-10; Jn 3:18, 36),
13) and that true faith produces obedience to the NT commands (Jn 14:21, 15:10)?
That's good to know.
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The final battle will center on Jerusalem.
This is not pleasant to contemplate, but it is what the Bible says.
I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.
Then the Lord will go out and fight against those nations, as He fights in the day of battle.
On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.
You will flee by My mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the Lord my God will come, and all the holy ones with Him.
[h=6]~ Zechariah 14:2-5[/h]
The time of this battle at Jerusalem is when Israel is being regathered and restored. From the first verse of Joel chapter 3, it would seem those days have begun.
This is not pleasant to contemplate, but it is what the Bible says.
I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.
Then the Lord will go out and fight against those nations, as He fights in the day of battle.
On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.
You will flee by My mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the Lord my God will come, and all the holy ones with Him.
[h=6]~ Zechariah 14:2-5[/h]
The time of this battle at Jerusalem is when Israel is being regathered and restored. From the first verse of Joel chapter 3, it would seem those days have begun.
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In those days and at that time, when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. There I will enter into judgment against them concerning My inheritance, My people Israel, for they scattered My people among the nations and divided up My land.”[h=6]~ Joel 3:1-2[/h]
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Kerry Heads to Israel in Peace Talk Push
March 31, 2014
PARIS — U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry travels to Israel Monday in an effort to reach agreement on a deal to extend Middle East peace talks that are threatened by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's reluctance to release more prisoners. Kerry says "some judgments have to be made" about going forward on a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
It is the second time in less than a week that Kerry has changed his schedule to try to prevent peace talks from collapsing over the prisoner controversy.
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......Ahmed Majdalani, a Palestinian leader, said Kerry has proposed holding talks for six to nine months focusing on the key issues of borders and security arrangements.
He said Kerry would endorse the 1967 lines as the starting point of negotiations......huffingtonpost.com
March 31, 2014
PARIS — U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry travels to Israel Monday in an effort to reach agreement on a deal to extend Middle East peace talks that are threatened by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's reluctance to release more prisoners. Kerry says "some judgments have to be made" about going forward on a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
It is the second time in less than a week that Kerry has changed his schedule to try to prevent peace talks from collapsing over the prisoner controversy.
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......Ahmed Majdalani, a Palestinian leader, said Kerry has proposed holding talks for six to nine months focusing on the key issues of borders and security arrangements.
He said Kerry would endorse the 1967 lines as the starting point of negotiations......huffingtonpost.com
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Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: “Though the number of the Israelites be like the sand by the sea, only the remnant will be saved.”
[h=6]~ Romans 9:27[/h]I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The deliverer will come from Zion; He will turn godlessness away from Jacob. And this is My covenant with them when I take away their sins.”
[h=6]~ Romans 11:25-27[/h]
[h=6]~ Romans 9:27[/h]I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The deliverer will come from Zion; He will turn godlessness away from Jacob. And this is My covenant with them when I take away their sins.”
[h=6]~ Romans 11:25-27[/h]
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And you are?
So then you agree with the Christ Jesus that
1) all foods are clean (Mk 7:19),
2) that love fulfills the whole law (Mt 22:37-40),
3) that all who do not receive Jesus of Nazareth as their Savior are condemned (Jn 3:18, 36),
4) that we are under a new covenant, the one promised in Jer 31:31 (Lk 22:20; Heb 8:7-13)?
And you agree with the words Jesus spoke in these last days (Heb 1:1-2)
in his revelation through the NT writers (Lk 24:27, 44-45) that
5) the Aaronic priesthood has been changed to the order of Melchizedek (Heb 7:11),
6) where the new eternal, never-ending High Priest (Heb 7:20) is also King,
7) that the change of priesthood required a change of the law (Heb 7:12)
which was established on the basis of the priesthood (Heb 7:11),
8) that the law has been set aside because it was weak and useless for righteousness
(Heb 7:18-19),
9) and that a new and better hope than the law; i.e., the new covenant, by which we draw
near to God has been inaugurated (Heb 7:19; Lk 22:20),
10) that the new covenant has made the old (Mosaic) covenant obsolete (Heb 8:13),
11) that salvation from God's wrath (Ro 5:9) is not based on works of righteousness,
12) but only on faith in Christ Jesus (Eph 2:8-10; Jn 3:18, 36),
13) and that true faith produces obedience to the NT commands (Jn 14:21, 15:10)?
That's good to know.
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Guest
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations; proclaim it in distant coastlands: “He who scattered Israel will gather them and will watch over His flock like a shepherd.”
[h=6]~ Jeremiah 31:10[/h]
“You who bring good tidings to Zion, go up on a high mountain. You who bring good tidings to Jerusalem, lift up your voice with a shout, lift it up, do not be afraid; say to the towns of Judah, ‘Here is your God!’”
[h=6]~ Isaiah 40:9[/h]
Israel has been blinded for the sakes of the gentile. Have the gentiles mourned for them, have we been generous in sharing with them the Gospels as delivered to the saints? Or have we for the most part created traditions and religiosity?
[h=6]~ Jeremiah 31:10[/h]
“You who bring good tidings to Zion, go up on a high mountain. You who bring good tidings to Jerusalem, lift up your voice with a shout, lift it up, do not be afraid; say to the towns of Judah, ‘Here is your God!’”
[h=6]~ Isaiah 40:9[/h]
Israel has been blinded for the sakes of the gentile. Have the gentiles mourned for them, have we been generous in sharing with them the Gospels as delivered to the saints? Or have we for the most part created traditions and religiosity?
The Eighth Day. Notice the Feast of Tabernacles is seven days...
Lev 23:34 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto the LORD.
The Eighth Day is a separate Feast...
Lev 23:35 On the first day shall be an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
Lev 23:36 Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: on the eighth day shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: it is a solemn assembly; and ye shall do no servile work therein.
Jessu was speaking on that Last Great Day of the Fall Feast days.
Not a loose handling of scripture at all. It in actuality comes from understanding and actually keeping God's Feasts instead of xmas and Ishtar.
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There has never been anything to compare with the history of Israel. Never in the history of the world has there been such a persecuted people. And in the last day all countries will rise up against them. Even the USA, who in times past were their strongest ally, have forsaken them. At this moment Kerry is pressuring them to divide their land. The Jews are unique. They were scattered to every country in the world and, in our day, they are being regathered to the Promised Land. And (this is remarkable) thousands of years ago the Bible predicted these events.
Proclaim it in all the world ... He who scattered Israel will gather them
[h=5]~ Jeremiah 31:10[/h]
God will be glorified when He restores Israel! He has spoken it, He will be faithful in keeping His promise.
Proclaim it in all the world ... He who scattered Israel will gather them
[h=5]~ Jeremiah 31:10[/h]
God will be glorified when He restores Israel! He has spoken it, He will be faithful in keeping His promise.
God has given bad laws as taught us in Ezekiel. Yahweh defends His Children, He does not require His Children to defend Him. His reputation is in tact, but He has given bad laws.
Even in the New Testament, Yesha, Jesus, taught by example to ignore certain laws when the option of mercy is present, i.e. the woman caught in the act of adultery, who, according to the law,should have been stoned to death (it seems unfair that mention of the man is never made). It is wonderful to know the difference between the good and the bad. In orde to know the difference we must learn the difference when our Master says, "I desire mercy and not sacrifice." If there are bad laws, there are good laws, and the good laws are forever. Love is one of the three gifts we may take with us from this age to the Kingdom. Love completes all of the law.
There are many intellectual approaches to argue about laws, but the Holy Spirit puts His seal on what we should learn, not flesh, not even in the form of a comparativ religions professor. We must turn and become as childre in order to approach our Father. Too mny folks think He will be impressed by the number of books we have read or the number of letters behind our names. This is not so.
Eze 20:23 I lifted up mine hand unto them also in the wilderness, that I would scatter them among the heathen, and disperse them through the countries;
Eze 20:24 Because they had not executed my judgments, but had despised my statutes, and had polluted my sabbaths, and their eyes were after their fathers' idols.
Eze 20:25
Wherefore I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live;
Eze 20:26
And I polluted them in their own gifts, in that they caused to pass through the fire all that openeth the womb, that I might make them desolate, to the end that they might know that I am the LORD.
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First, how does the location of the feast have any bearing on it having nothing to do with the great day, the last day, or the end of time, as you presented?
Second, are you saying the eighth day did not occur in conjunction with the Feast of Tabernacles?
Are we being self righteousness?
Third, if you paid more attention to the NT, you would know that the Jews did not regard the eighth day as a separate feast
(Jn 7:2, 10).
"On the last and greatest day of the Feast (singular). . ." (Jn 7:37).
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And you are?
So then you agree with the Christ Jesus that
1) all foods are clean (Mk 7:19),
2) that love fulfills the whole law (Mt 22:37-40),
3) that all who do not receive Jesus of Nazareth as their Savior are condemned (Jn 3:18, 36),
4) that we are under a new covenant, the one promised in Jer 31:31 (Lk 22:20; Heb 8:7-13)?
And you agree with the words Jesus spoke in these last days (Heb 1:1-2)
in his revelation through the NT writers (Lk 24:27, 44-45) that
5) the Aaronic priesthood has been changed to the order of Melchizedek (Heb 7:11),
6) where the new eternal, never-ending High Priest (Heb 7:20) is also King,
7) that the change of priesthood required a change of the law (Heb 7:12)
which was established on the basis of the priesthood (Heb 7:11),
8) that the law has been set aside because it was weak and useless for righteousness
(Heb 7:18-19),
9) and that a new and better hope than the law; i.e., the new covenant, by which we draw
near to God has been inaugurated (Heb 7:19; Lk 22:20),
10) that the new covenant has made the old (Mosaic) covenant obsolete (Heb 8:13),
11) that salvation from God's wrath (Ro 5:9) is not based on works of righteousness,
12) but only on faith in Christ Jesus (Eph 2:8-10; Jn 3:18, 36),
13) and that true faith produces obedience to the NT commands (Jn 14:21, 15:10)?
And now we are down to what Paul dealt with over 2,000 years ago, and which continues
to this very day, rejection of the NT revelation above spoken by Jesus in these last days (Heb 1:1-2)
through the NT writers.
It's the same old same old. . .and the NT tells us why (Ro 11:25); i.e., God himself has blinded.
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You've got me confused with the NT writers (Heb 7:11-12, 18-19; Ro 13:8, 9, 10; Mt 22:40).
Thanks for the compliment.