MaggieMye, if this is true, and it is, wouldn't you consider this emotional sickness as chastisement resulting from the sin of the wife who did not submit to the authority of her husband who is over her in the Lord (1Cor 11:3)? And for her to be healed of this sickness should she repent in her heart to the Lord and her husband so that God could give her grace and restore her?" The question is this: Are the husbands doing what is listed below? Because if they are, no wife in her right mind would ever not want to submit to such a LOVING husband. If a man loves a woman and honors her and respects her and protects her, to the point of being willing to DIE for her, what reason could there possibly BE for not submitting?
Because there are things in her heart that she is not willing to let God deal with and crucify. After all the woman is also an individual with free volition.
The problem is is that that KIND of LOVE is non-existent at the worst and RARE at best. Only a woman that was full of rebellion and in need of deliverance or possibly sound teaching (which few are humble enough to give) would even desire to not submit to the earthly example of Christ that is supposed to be her husband. The responsibility does not lie with the wife. It lies with the man. Just as in the garden, Adam sherked his responsibility over his wife by standing right beside her and not stopping her from eating the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.
You blame Adam for the woman being deceived and beguiled by the serpent. She had free volition, she listened, rationalized and took of the fruit. Do not the scriptures say...
1Tim 2:14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
2Cor 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
In your eyes the wife has an excuse for what she does and how she behaves, it's her husband's fault, he doesn't love me enough, he does not respect or honor me. Are you telling us that she is not responsible to live according to knowledge and the word that she has been taught? Whether Adam was with her or not, she had been taught and she had free volition and she made an error when she gave ear to what the serpent was telling her and was beguiled.
If the woman was not responsible for her actions when she listened to the serpent, and she ate and also gave to her husband, why did God declare that she would have travail in child bearing?
What women are not taught is that by submitting to the man when there is disagreement and they HAVE PRAYED TOGETHER, but do not come to agreement, by submitting to the man she frees herself of ALL RESPONSIBILITY for the outcome or consequences of his decision. The only confession of sin and repenting that will ever have to be done will be on the man's part and that would be because he did not listen to the Lord.
Abraham would not listen to God and cast out the bond woman and her child, so God spoke to Sara and she informed her husband Abraham to cast her out with her son. She did not go along with Abraham's sentimental love that he had for Hagar and Ishmael. Abraham obeyed and cast them out. Sara also obeyed Abraham and called him lord, whose daughters you are...
1Pt 3:6 It was thus that Sarah obeyed Abraham [following his guidance and acknowledging his headship over her by] calling him lord (master, leader, authority). And you are now her true daughters if you do right and let nothing terrify you [not giving way to hysterical fears or letting anxieties unnerve you].
MaggieMye, you are an individual believer, if you prayed and heard from God, knowing that your husband was leading you in the wrong way, wouldn't you resist as Sara did and communicate to your husband what God told you hoping that he would humble himself and obey the Lord?
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Because there are things in her heart that she is not willing to let God deal with and crucify. After all the woman is also an individual with free volition.
The problem is is that that KIND of LOVE is non-existent at the worst and RARE at best. Only a woman that was full of rebellion and in need of deliverance or possibly sound teaching (which few are humble enough to give) would even desire to not submit to the earthly example of Christ that is supposed to be her husband. The responsibility does not lie with the wife. It lies with the man. Just as in the garden, Adam sherked his responsibility over his wife by standing right beside her and not stopping her from eating the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.
You blame Adam for the woman being deceived and beguiled by the serpent. She had free volition, she listened, rationalized and took of the fruit. Do not the scriptures say...
1Tim 2:14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
2Cor 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
In your eyes the wife has an excuse for what she does and how she behaves, it's her husband's fault, he doesn't love me enough, he does not respect or honor me. Are you telling us that she is not responsible to live according to knowledge and the word that she has been taught? Whether Adam was with her or not, she had been taught and she had free volition and she made an error when she gave ear to what the serpent was telling her and was beguiled.
If the woman was not responsible for her actions when she listened to the serpent, and she ate and also gave to her husband, why did God declare that she would have travail in child bearing?
What women are not taught is that by submitting to the man when there is disagreement and they HAVE PRAYED TOGETHER, but do not come to agreement, by submitting to the man she frees herself of ALL RESPONSIBILITY for the outcome or consequences of his decision. The only confession of sin and repenting that will ever have to be done will be on the man's part and that would be because he did not listen to the Lord.
Abraham would not listen to God and cast out the bond woman and her child, so God spoke to Sara and she informed her husband Abraham to cast her out with her son. She did not go along with Abraham's sentimental love that he had for Hagar and Ishmael. Abraham obeyed and cast them out. Sara also obeyed Abraham and called him lord, whose daughters you are...
1Pt 3:6 It was thus that Sarah obeyed Abraham [following his guidance and acknowledging his headship over her by] calling him lord (master, leader, authority). And you are now her true daughters if you do right and let nothing terrify you [not giving way to hysterical fears or letting anxieties unnerve you].
MaggieMye, you are an individual believer, if you prayed and heard from God, knowing that your husband was leading you in the wrong way, wouldn't you resist as Sara did and communicate to your husband what God told you hoping that he would humble himself and obey the Lord?
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1 Peter 3:7
Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; [SO] that your prayers be not hindered. HUSBANDS that do not dwell with their wives, respect their knowledge and give honor to her have their prayers hindered.
Ephesians 5:25
Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Ephesians 5:28
So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
Colossians 3:19
Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; [SO] that your prayers be not hindered. HUSBANDS that do not dwell with their wives, respect their knowledge and give honor to her have their prayers hindered.
Ephesians 5:25
Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Ephesians 5:28
So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
Colossians 3:19
Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.