How should Christians view the Ukraine/Russia situation?
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What part? The Americans knowingly and willfully spreading Russian propaganda?
They all knew exactly who was paying the bills. It wasn't a shock. Russia was giving them talking points and the various personalities would chime in as to which ones they wanted. It wasn't veiled or hidden at all. They knew exactly what they were doing.
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Americans supporting the Russian narrative constitutes treason. If anyone under my command supports Russia I will not go easy on them. That’s a promise.
The owners of Tenet media knew very much who was paying the bills. It didn't come as a shock. Same as the on-air personalities.
Elon Musk's endorsement of Russian propaganda is also clear. He didn't want the sanctions because he wanted the cheap Russian aluminum. He was buying it for a 30% discount to the commodity price. He didn't care one bit about the rest of the story. Tesla cars, rockets, and satellites all use large amounts of aluminum. I'm not sure who was supplying him the titanium.
But Elon has been silent on the Ukraine issue lately. I think he is more concerned about free speech than anything else. He will win on that issue I think. The sanctions? Probably not.
So you really think there would be no division in the US without those sneaky Russians coming in, and reminding people of what they already believe? That makes absolutely no sense.
I agree! But the Democrats/leftists want to bring it back to the federal level; so, who are really the ones dividing the country?
That's not "more" that's just Ryan Macbeth saying pretty much exactly what you said.
And Tim had every reason to be angry about nordstream. Nordstream should never have been left to speculation.
Pool can claim he was a "victim" and eventually see how well that plays out in court. He was a paid shill for Russia. He knowingly got talking points from Russian Television.
He has violated the FARA act willingly and knowingly. His innocence is at best dubious. Most likely he, himself will see indictments coming soon. He needs a lawyer like yesterday. He probably got one when Scott Ritter went to jail for similar violations....maybe. But maybe he wasn't smart enough to do the same.
So the question remains: Who is the bigger tool? Tim Pool or his followers?
Tim at least got a paycheck out of it.
His followers don't get that excuse. They just swallowed his vomit and regurgitated it everywhere.
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It’s mind boggling that presumed American citizens are supporting the Russian narrative.
Turns out the FBI has contacted him... as a potential crime victim. His podcast has been exactly the same long before any of his content was approved to be used by Tenet. It's highly doubtful that he will be in any trouble.
Also, your boy McBeth is kind of a psychopath... he seems to think America is the "light of the world' and that we are already in World War 3 and just delaying the inevitable... Is that what you want, dude? Because that is insane.
You have lost touch with reality.
McBeth is a communications specialist who specializes in exactly what your boy Pool has been doing and has been the subject of many of Ryan's videos. Because Ryan clarifies all his disinformation and mal-information.
You may not care about the truth.
you may not care about scriptures because you absolutely are in direct opposition to 2Peter 1. Just a fact.
Your choice....
But to the average person you appear to be going through the stages of grief.
Denial
Anger
Sorrow
Rinse and repeat until you can finally get to acceptance.
Where denial stops but anger and sorrow continue.
I guess the Attorney General has lost touch with reality, too.
"The company never disclosed to the influencers or to their millions of followers its ties to RT and the Russian government. Instead, the defendants and the company claimed that the company was sponsored by a private investor, but that private investor was a fictitious persona," Garland said. (quote from abc.)
Besides the fact that she missed the fact that Russia did announce revising their nuclear weapons doctrine; she's pretty easy to sympathize with.
Fake news, predatory lenders, country ruled by geriatric maniacs who are turning the country into a junkyard and despise their own citizens, exploitation of the poor.... that all sounds really familiar. I bet her town is called "Detroitsk". I hope she makes Russia great again... er... for once.
They don't have the men.
Most men die by age 60. Women at that age outnumber men 2:1. Even at 45 most men are suicidal in their behaviors.
Putin is on borrowed time. Too much vodka.
It's going to be interesting to see which gets him first vodka or deposition.
My vote is vodka.
After this bout of fighting and war....the numbers are really going to be bad for the younger men. Same with Ukraine.
They already are at a 2:1 ratio for marriage men. That's why Putin kidnapped any children he could get his hands on in Ukraine and sent them into Russia.
The women in these countries (Belarus, Estonia, Ukraine, Russia) pretty much run the place. Sure, men are in leadership but women do the work. There flat out are not enough men to go around.
One of the many reasons that they need to stop fighting; and never should have started to begin with.
Of course. Tenet is done. It was a company with fraudulent foreign ownership- and it was irrelevant anyway. The content creators' channels that Tenet was buying content from have a larger fanbase than Tenet itself- I don't think I've even heard of Tenet prior to this scandal. It's not like the Russians invented anti-interventionism in the US; Considering Tim Pool actually was present at the maidan riots in 2014, he of all people doesn't need help from Russia to form a negative opinion about the current Ukrainian government; nor does he need to justify opposing a conflict that potentially ends with the deaths of billions of people.
Many empires have fallen throughout history because of foolish foreign interventions- trying to expand their influence and stupid ideologies around the world. The United States is not immune to that; and a lot of people understand that. I'm not gonna promote the idea of the United States making reckless moves to spread ungodly ideologies half-way around the world, or put my faith in "American hegemony" or our foreign alliances- not that we can't have those things; because we absolutely can- but they are not a priority- especially not over correcting domestic problems. "We can do both!!!" says the neocons...but we're not. That's the problem. "Remove the plank from your own eye" is what we need to do first- not try and juggle it with policing the world at the same time.
Treason is betraying one's country. Just because one believes that the Russian narrative is the more correct one doesn't make one a traitor. Colonel Douglas Macgregor's reports about the war are likely much more trustworthy, and align more with Russia's narrative than the Lamestream. It doesn't make him a traitor.
I can agree that three Presidents have abjectly and completely failed in their policies towards Ukraine and the growing Russian problem. (George W, Obama, and Trump) Biden wasn't great either with his son meddling in Ukrainian affairs....but that's spilled milk at this point.
All three failed so spectacularly that it is no wonder they look at us as if we are crazy and out of our freaking minds. Especially when Hunter got involved with Barisma and Trump was all concerned about that.
Sure, the M. I. C. Was very interested in testing their products in true battlefield conditions. But what really was a failure was Trump losing his election and Biden needing a nap during briefings about how Russia was massing troops together for a Ukranian invasion. The M.I.C. won when a decision was needed.
Should Ukraine lay down and die?
Because that literally is the question.
Russia will commit genocide. It's not like they haven't been trying. Ukraine has NEVER invaded anyone. They have never sought to take more territory or control.
Despite the claims of corruption, which is a red herring of an internal matter, the USA had been defaulting on treaty demands. We have not helped them in a timely manner when it mattered most.
Treaties after our disaster in Ukraine are going to be impossible. We might as well not bother with a State Dept after the highlighting of our failures. We totally did not fulfill our part of the bargain.
In short....the USA has become liars on the world stage. Especially when people like you keep spouting "pull out of Ukraine".
I, nor anyone else, is going to buy your excuses as to why we shouldn't keep our treaty with Ukraine. "Bill Clinton was a Democrat"....big deal....nobody in the world cares. They only see the lies from the USA. If there was a problem with the treaty then....that was the time to whine....not now. It's too late.
Tim Pool is effectively silenced as well as several other pro Russian propaganda influencers. They are all going to jail for knowingly being paid to promote Russian propaganda.
And if you currently believe that Vance is going to stop all help to Ukraine.....you really shouldn't believe any politician so readily. Russia is currently moving at breakneck speed to conquer as much as possible before the election and transfer....because he knows a world of cesspool is coming.