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cv5

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So was I buddy. Maybe you missed that.
Evidently Magenta thought your post was legit though.

I did use your post as an excuse to pound out some scriptures though.
People around here need them believe me....:rolleyes:
 

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In regard to Robert Wadlow, I don't think he was one of them. He had a condition known as gigantism in which he had an enlarged pituitary gland that produced too much human growth hormone.

The giants described in the Bible seemed to live a long time. He can't have been one them because people with gigantism tend to die young. Wadlow died when he was only 22. He was a gentle giant from what I've seen and I'm glad his hometown treated him normally like everyone else!
 

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A specious assumption disproven by my voluminous postings proving that the TEXT ITSELF is quite beyond refutation proving
that indeed, angelic rebellion, "going after strange flesh" and Nephilim offspring were a fact of Biblical history.
None of your pretend proof texts say angels took human form.

Continue denying that kind reproduces after kind if you wish.

I believe the record of Scripture as given from God to mankind.
 

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So Magenta thinks that this Wadlow fellow is a legit giant and full of wickedness, violence and
evil? So much so that God had to wipe him and all like him off from the face of the earth? :ROFL::LOL:
Not sure where you got that idea but I do understand why you feel driven to and must misrepresent and demonize
my position since you do after all deny what Scripture explicitly states in favor of your fairy tales and wishful thinking.


Seems you also deny that that giants survived the flood right into modern times. My goodness.. :oops::censored::rolleyes:
 

cv5

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None of your pretend proof texts say angels took human form.
Here are some proof texts that say angels took human form.
Now you show me some proof texts that prove that FALLEN ANGELS are prohibited from taking human form.
This of course is a vain campaign, because they do not exist in the Bible. And really, that is the only (faulty) assumption that you have left to support your position. A verse, a command, a doctrine that simply does not exist.

Gen 18:2
And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,
Gen 18:8
And he took butter, and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree, and they did eat.
Gen 18:13
And the LORD said unto Abraham, Wherefore did Sarah laugh, saying, Shall I of a surety bear a child, which am old?
Gen 19:1
And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;
Gen 19:2
And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.
Gen 19:3
And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.

Here is more for you. BTW.....the Bible is constructed in such a way that God expects us to think and put 2 + 2 together. Too many people fall back on "show me the verse that says".

https://christianchat.com/threads/what-about-gen-6.208962/post-5024447
Evidently the Jude 1:6 angels took a downgrade (to satisfy their ungodly lust), while we Christians are gifted with an upgrade.

G3613 - oikētērion - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv) (blueletterbible.org)
The KJV translates Strong's G3613 in the following manner: house (1x), habitation (1x).
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]
  1. a dwelling place, habitation
    1. of the body as a dwelling place for the spirit
Jde 1:6
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, G3613 he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
2Co 5:2
For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house G3613 which is from heaven:
 

cv5

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Not sure where you got that idea but I do understand why you feel driven to and must misrepresent and demonize my position since you do after all deny what Scripture explicitly states in favor of your fairy tales and wishful thinking. Seems you also deny that that giants survived the flood right into modern times. My goodness..:oops::censored::rolleyes:
Of COURSE giants existed after the flood. Genesis 6 itself states exactly that! And there is just massive quantities of text describing this post-flood infestation/manifestation.

The Biblical truth is......demonic activities of all sorts HAS happened back before the flood, it WAS happening during the time of Abraham and Moses and Joshua and David. It was happening during the time of Jesus.

All of this demonic and fallen angel mischief and rebellion is an attempt to destroy man and prevent God's planned redemption. A theme that starts from Genesis 3 for pity's sake.

And make no mistake.....it is happening today. And will be THE PRIMARY cause of the end-time judgements and SC Kingdom.
How in the world can you deny the massive DEMONIC FALLEN ANGEL ASSAULT which will happen in the DOTL 70th week so noted in Revelation? How can you deny the Satanic ties to the prophesied "beast" and "false prophet" of Revelation?

How in the world can you deny these verses. Fallen angel demonic and Satanic entities. We have no idea of the extent. But we DO KNOW that fallen angels and demonic hybrids are unquestionably Biblical fact. There is NOT ONE SINGLE verse that indicates AT ALL that mere men were begetting Nephilim. ONLY fallen angels are noted in the text. Nothing could be more clear.

THESE ARE FALLEN ANGELS IN OUT MIDST WHOM WE ENGAGE IN BATTLE.
What do you have to say about that?

Eph 3:10
To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,
Eph 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
 

cv5

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Of COURSE giants existed after the flood. Genesis 6 itself states exactly that! And there is just massive quantities of text describing this post-flood infestation/manifestation.

The Biblical truth is......demonic activities of all sorts HAS happened back before the flood, it WAS happening during the time of Abraham and Moses and Joshua and David. It was happening during the time of Jesus.

All of this demonic and fallen angel mischief and rebellion is an attempt to destroy man and prevent God's planned redemption. A theme that starts from Genesis 3 for pity's sake.

And make no mistake.....it is happening today. And will be THE PRIMARY cause of the end-time judgements and SC Kingdom.
How in the world can you deny the massive DEMONIC FALLEN ANGEL ASSAULT which will happen in the DOTL 70th week so noted in Revelation? How can you deny the Satanic ties to the prophesied "beast" and "false prophet" of Revelation?

How in the world can you deny these verses. Fallen angel demonic and Satanic entities. We have no idea of the extent. But we DO KNOW that fallen angels and demonic hybrids are unquestionably Biblical fact. There is NOT ONE SINGLE verse that indicates AT ALL that mere men were begetting Nephilim. ONLY fallen angels are noted in the text. Nothing could be more clear.

THESE ARE FALLEN ANGELS IN OUT MIDST WHOM WE ENGAGE IN BATTLE.
What do you have to say about that?

Eph 3:10
To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,
Eph 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
@Magenta :
Again.....demonic POSSESSION was rampant in the time of Jesus. Who knows to what extent a human if affected by such a malady? It was causing deafness, mutes, insanity, super strength. Demons were inhabiting pigs. The works. And you cannot understand the fact of fallen angels, sexual sin and hybrid giants? Well that's what the text itself says. So I am not shy in saying so.

THESE ARE FALLEN ANGELS IN OUR MIDST WHOM WE ENGAGE IN BATTLE.
What do you have to say about that?

Eph 3:10
To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,
Eph 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
 

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In regard to Robert Wadlow, I don't think he was one of them. He had a condition known as gigantism in which he had an enlarged pituitary gland that produced too much human growth hormone.

The giants described in the Bible seemed to live a long time. He can't have been one them because people with gigantism tend to die young. Wadlow died when he was only 22. He was a gentle giant from what I've seen and I'm glad his hometown treated him normally like everyone else!
I can see that as a possibility of any of the giants of the past, but can only speculate since the Bible only reveals so much.
Rare recessive traits and birth defects from chromosomal damage can manifest a variety of deformities. I attributed all giants to inbreeding of fallen angels since my pastor taught me that for years. Every time I start over re-reading the Bible I ask questions and hope to glean a little more insight. I have learned a lot from the different points of view.
 

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I can see that as a possibility of any of the giants of the past, but can only speculate since the Bible only reveals so much.
Rare recessive traits and birth defects from chromosomal damage can manifest a variety of deformities. I attributed all giants to inbreeding of fallen angels since my pastor taught me that for years. Every time I start over re-reading the Bible I ask questions and hope to glean a little more insight. I have learned a lot from the different points of view.
I wasn't disagreeing with you if you thought I was?

I only said that Robert Wadlow couldn't have been one of the giant's breed because of the characteristics of his abnomality. It doesn't line up with the characteristics of Biblical giants.

I don't have an opinion on Biblical giants. I'm going to ask God about it after this age is over with.
 

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I wasn't disagreeing with you if you thought I was?

I only said that Robert Wadlow couldn't have been one of the giant's breed because of the characteristics of his abnomality. It doesn't line up with the characteristics of Biblical giants.

I don't have an opinion on Biblical giants. I'm going to ask God about it after this age is over with.
No worries. I've been on both sides of the isle. I put Wadlow up there.for humor. I think Magenta did too.
My time ran out before I could edit, but I am more into believing what I can prove and let the rest slide. If I have to fill in blanks, that means speculation. That's ok sometimes, but I had a pastor that I had to reconsider where he was filling in all of those blanks with dogmatic assertions.
 

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There is another interpretation of Genesis 6:1 and following that makes more sense given the previous context, which traces the two lineages of Seth and Cain, the "good" and "evil" lines from Adam. Those intermarried, and evil dominated the human race except for Noah and his family.
So were the daughters of Cain that ugly? No one would marry them?
 
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Such as denying that kind reproduces after kind. Angels are not humankind.
But you can have similar species mate, producing sterile offspring. So, it was God's design for species to perpetuate themselves, but artificial / unnatural efforts can change that. We have mixed-fruit species, e.g..
 

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But you can have similar species mate, producing sterile offspring. So, it was God's design for species to perpetuate themselves, but artificial / unnatural efforts can change that. We have mixed-fruit species, e.g..
They are of the same KIND, such as lions and tigers, which are FELINES.
Or the EQUINE kind as with horses mating with donkeys and producing mules.


Angels and humans are simply not the same kind and no amount of twisting can make it so.
 
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They are of the same KIND, such as lions and tigers, which are FELINES.
Or the EQUINE kind as with horses mating with donkeys and producing mules.
Would a zoologist agree with that? And, I also mentioned fruits being mixed to produce new varieties.
 
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Yes, equine kinds mating with each other, we covered that already.
No, YOU covered that already. Similar species, but not the same kind. Grapes and apples are certainly not the same kind.