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I am not so sure that statement is not truth, I am a believer in the Duel Covenant and the following verse.
Hebrews 12:22-23
22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect…
I believe the just men made perfect are Jews that never excepted Christ as Lord.
Hebrews 12:22-23
22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect…
I believe the just men made perfect are Jews that never excepted Christ as Lord.
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2 Corinthians 3:13-15~ We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites
from gazing at the end of what was fading away. But their minds were closed. For to this day the same veil remains at the reading
of the old covenant. It has not been lifted, because only in Christ can it be removed. And even to this day when Moses is read, a veil
covers their hearts. But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
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They are those who died before Christ arose but they had faith that God would deliver them. Christ appeared to them when they were imprisoned by Death. See, Death had not been conquered by Christ until His death. Once conquered, Christ appeared to them as the object of their faith in God for deliverance.
That’s what this passage in 1Peter 3 means:
“For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison…”
Many of them were Jews, sure, but they were made perfect by the covenant that Christ secured for all, not by another covenant.
That’s what this passage in 1Peter 3 means:
“For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison…”
Many of them were Jews, sure, but they were made perfect by the covenant that Christ secured for all, not by another covenant.
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Judaism is antichrist
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
2Jn 1:8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
2Jn 1:8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
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● Luke 16:27-29 . . I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's house, for
I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to
this place of torment. Abraham replied: They have Moses and the Prophets;
let your brothers listen to them.
Abraham was a prophet. (Gen 20:7)
Prophets knew about Jesus. (John 8:56 & 1Pet 1:10-12)
So; if Abraham knew about Jesus, then why would he direct the man's five
brothers to the Old Testament?
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● Luke 16:27-29 . . I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's house, for
I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to
this place of torment. Abraham replied: They have Moses and the Prophets;
let your brothers listen to them.
Abraham was a prophet. (Gen 20:7)
Prophets knew about Jesus. (John 8:56 & 1Pet 1:10-12)
So; if Abraham knew about Jesus, then why would he direct the man's five
brothers to the Old Testament?
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You are correct that all must come to the light, which is Jesus.
Many Jewish people will miss the Rapture but finally find their way to Jesus during the Great Tribulation. We call it The Time of Jacob's Trouble. They shall be led into the wilderness and be saved from sure destruction by God, and there they shall finally see the light. It is in this way that their souls shall ultimately be saved. Much of this is prophesied in the middle portions of Revelation. (And perhaps other parts of the Bible as well.)
Many Jewish people will miss the Rapture but finally find their way to Jesus during the Great Tribulation. We call it The Time of Jacob's Trouble. They shall be led into the wilderness and be saved from sure destruction by God, and there they shall finally see the light. It is in this way that their souls shall ultimately be saved. Much of this is prophesied in the middle portions of Revelation. (And perhaps other parts of the Bible as well.)
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Also to add to the other groups I think hyper dispensationalists teach this, this includes the two gospel grace folk who believe Paul has a different gospel to the Gentiles, Ive noticed some on these forums.
But the fact is the law can save no one, for it condemns. The Old Testament saints had faith in God that He would provide a way of salvation even if they could only see it afar, but see it by faith they could.
Jesus said, “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.” (John 8:56)
But the fact is the law can save no one, for it condemns. The Old Testament saints had faith in God that He would provide a way of salvation even if they could only see it afar, but see it by faith they could.
Jesus said, “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.” (John 8:56)
The Jews themselves, of course.
In their well nigh invincible IGNORANCE (which can only be penetrated by the Holy Spirit), after they MISSED their time of visitation, they Murdered God's only begotten Son, who is their redeemer, and developed "Denominational Theology" to cover it all.
In their well nigh invincible IGNORANCE (which can only be penetrated by the Holy Spirit), after they MISSED their time of visitation, they Murdered God's only begotten Son, who is their redeemer, and developed "Denominational Theology" to cover it all.
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