Is believing in the Trinity necessary for salvation? (POLL!)

[Hevosmies]

Vote up guys! Discuss, do you believe its necessary for salvation?

Ima throw out a politician answer, YES and NO! (You heard me! I should run for office, lets loan our way out of debt)

Yes, you gotta believe in God the Father, His Son Jesus Christ who is deity (John 1:1), and the Holy Spirit. (While claiming ONE GOD, not three!)
But do you need to understand all the theological language that people have created around it? I'd say NO! Because I guarantee them folks in apostolic times didnt use that language. Most Christians at that time were poor people and lower class people, I use that term low class with respect too! I simply mean not high up in society!

I think the theological language, creeds and all them things was designed out of NECESSITY, cause of all the wrong doctrines floating around during them days. One interesting thing I noticed looking into this was: Unitarianism was almost non-existant in the early Church, I find that hilarious considering how many unitarian groups always say that the trinity was a Catholic "corruption".

 

[iamsoandso]

This view is just the opposite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah_in_Judaism in that they do not see the Messiah as divine.

 

[tourist]

Salvation comes from the shed blood of Jesus dying on the cross for the sin we have asked forgiveness for and inviting the Holy Spirit to live in our hearts to comfort and guide us in the repentance process. It does not come from the intellectual exercise of realizing that God is 3 separate entities, the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit comprising one God. This realization may come later but that in itself saves no one.

 

[bluto]

Well let me put it this way. I do not believe Trinitarianism is a REQUIRMENT for salvation. It is the RESULT of salvation. Why? Because you cannot know Jesus Christ and somehow miss the fact that He is God. You cannot have experienced the presense of the Holy Spirit of God and somehow miss that He is God.

Romans 8:9-11, "However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. vs10, And if Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness. vs11, But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you. He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who indwells you."

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto

 

[Nehemiah6]

This view is just the opposite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah_in_Judaism in that they do not see the Messiah as divine.

Actually the rabbis sought to dodge the fact that Messiah in the OT was divine.

 

[Crustyone]

I am kind of thinking that God the father's life spirit or breath of life spirit is the Holy Spirit and thus there would be no separate Holy Spirit if God didn't separate it from himself to add it to someone else. The same as we are not, us and our spirit and now since our salvation, us and our two spirits. Just another way of looking at it.

 

[jacob_g]

I do not believe you have to believe in the Trinity to be Saved. I do believe in the Trinity. But, look at all the stuff Christians debate, salvation forever/lose it, grace and works/grace alone, creation/evolution & creation mix, signs and wonders today/passed away.... and so on....

We DO have to believe Messiah/Jesus is 100% God and 100%, He died on the cross for our sins, was buried for 3 day, rose from the grave, ascended to heaven and coming back again... He and He alone is the the ONLY way to heaven/ the Father....

These are the doctrines we hold to according to Paul.
Why does this matter? Jehovah's Witness believe Jesus was "a god", actually the angel Michael and we can become "a god" too. So many (all but Christianity) religions have ideas that are not based on the Authority of Scripture (why that is important)....

Scripture does not have the word trinity, yet a student of the Word can not read/study for long (Scripture interprets Scripture) even without outside people "educating" them the Trinity does exist. Tis a person has to study.... To believe Jesus/Messiah and come to a Saving faith you just have to read the Bible.... Do "you" see the difference.... !?!

 

[Noose]

Salvation is not what anyone does or thinks

 

[jacob_g]

Salvation is not what anyone does or thinks

What? So you can be saved and believe people who follow a false religion will go to heaven too because they just don't know any better? I' sorry this response is ambiguous and does not give an answer...

What is salvation then?

 

[Miri]

It kind of depends on your overall belief system. For example Muslims believe Jesus existed but they do not think he is god.

JW believe Jesus died for them but they do not believe he is God and they also have a works based faith.

More importantly we do not save ourselves by our theology, God draws us to Him. So it’s possible to have spot on theology but still not be saved.

Jesus said come to Him as little children not as professors of theology. Anyone who thinks they are saved by what they believe, rather than what Jesus has done in their lives, is not saved. Any genuine Christian will know it’s not about them!

 

[Noose]

What? So you can be saved and believe people who follow a false religion will go to heaven too because they just don't know any better? I' sorry this response is ambiguous and does not give an answer...

What is salvation then?

How is a two year old saved? Do they have to believe Jesus is God?

Salvation is God creating once again.

 

[jacob_g]

How is a two year old saved? Do they have to believe Jesus is God?

Salvation is God creating once again.

What? I honestly do not understand... Please explain or elaborate...
Two year olds do not get saved to go to heaven....

 

[Andor]

For example, Jesus' name in English is spelled "Jesus".
Jesus was not American or English speaking. Jesus was a Jew and spoke Hebrew and was in his home country. So Jesus' exact name in Hebrew is as follows: יְהוֹשֻׁעַ‎ Yĕhôshúa.

And if you do your own research on the meaning of Jesus' Hebrew name, you will get the answer to the salvation.

Supplementary verses from the Bible

John 17:3

Rom 10:13
Joel 2:32

Matthew 24:13

 

[RickStudies]

Why would it be necessary to believe a man made term?

Also, the view that people who don`t accept trinity reject Jesus as God is not always the case, not by a long shot.

 

[JaumeJ]

It kind of depends on your overall belief system. For example Muslims believe Jesus existed but they do not think he is god.

JW believe Jesus died for them but they do not believe he is God and they also have a works based faith.

More importantly we do not save ourselves by our theology, God draws us to Him. So it’s possible to have spot on theology but still not be saved.

Jesus said come to Him as little children not as professors of theology. Anyone who thinks they are saved by what they believe, rather than what Jesus has done in their lives, is not saved. Any genuine Christian will know it’s not about them!

Believing Jesus is faith, a gift from the Father......……….Jesus says we are of the faith of Abraham, that faith, belief of God, is reckoned to all as righteousness, that is not a work but being imputed as innocent.

 

[Noose]

What? I honestly do not understand... Please explain or elaborate...
Two year olds do not get saved to go to heaven....

I do believe that if one loves other people, they have known God and this is faith. This is also how children are saved because they don't hate.

 

[Andor]

Why would it be necessary to believe a man made term?

Also, the view that people who don`t accept trinity reject Jesus as God is not always the case, not by a long shot.

a man made term?

 

[cc4]

Trinety has its rots in Babylon. Nimrod the Father(sun god) Semiramis mother (Moon god) and Tammus their child also a god.

The Vatican had sold a repackage wersion with father, mother son. Now its repagage again to Father, son, spirit.
Trinety is Babylonian worship and Idoltry!

Yahoosha (Jesus) is the incorruptible image of the invisebule one (Yahooah/god)

Father and som worship always have and always will be pagan worship!

 

[Andor]

Trinety has its rots in Babylon. Nimrod the Father(sun god) Semiramis mother (Moon god) and Tammus their child also a god.

The Vatican had sold a repackage wersion with father, mother son. Now its repagage again to Father, son, spirit.
Trinety is Babylonian worship and Idoltry!

Yahoosha (Jesus) is the incorruptible image of the invisebule one (Yahooah/god)

Father and som worship always have and always will be pagan worship!

I think you misspelled Jesus' name. There are too many different versions of Jesus' name

 

[Andor]

I think you misspelled Jesus' name. There are too many different versions of Jesus' name

First you need to find out Jesus' name in Hebrew and then translate it correctly to the current language. Otherwise it will be comedy