If you keep the laws which Christ fullfilled, are you not justified by them?
Youseem fond of Strong's and here is what Strong's defines "Justified" as:
I have had some in the HRM claim Paul's writings are not inspired. You claim we don't understand them, but it is a very jarring statement to claim we don't follow Jesus. I would never make that charge against anyone who claims to be a Christian.
It dosent matter to me what some people claim about this or that, I have clearly stated my stance, so mentioning what some people believe about Paul is what I believe an attempt at guilt by association...
And yes I would say none of us have 100% grip on Paul's writings, they were letters written to certian people/groups of people, if we dont TRULY know all the issues of said people we CAN NOT 100% understand specific tailored messages to specific people. That is not to say we cant still get the large majority of what he was saying.
As far as yourself in particular, you continually misuse his writings.
Remember when you found the "end of the Law" verse, totally misused it because you were decieved by false translation:
Romans 10:4
New Living Translation
For Christ has already accomplished the purpose for which the law was given. As a result, all who believe in him are made right with God.
English Standard Version
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
New American Standard Bible
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
King James Bible
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
For Yahshua is the ultimate result of keeping the Law unto righteousness for everyone who believes.
OK, here are a three places it is translated as end...
1Pe 1:9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
So, faith has come to an end. It is done away with.
Jas 5:11 Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.
GOAL....GOAL
A disciple of Messiah does what the Messiah says,anyone claiming the Law is abolished, done away, or fulfilled so it is no longer to be followed is not doing what the Messiah said.
Lets break this down
Mattithyah 5:17, "Do not even think that I have come to destroy the Law or the prophets; I have not come to destroy them, but to fulfill them."
First off twice in this one verse Yahshua says He “did not come to destroy the Law or the Prophets.”
He said He came to “fulfill them.”
Lets let scripture interpret scripture –
Yahshua knew satan would beguile many into a false interpretation of these words of His, this is why HE said IN THE NEXT SENTENCE:
Mattithyah 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
Has "heaven and earth passed away?".......A quick look out the window shows us no heaven and earth did not pass away.
Have "all things been perfected?".........Still sin and death in the world, so no all things have not been perfected.
So there are 2 things that Messiah says will happen before ANYTHING is taken from Yahweh's Law...NEITHER has happened.
Acts 3:18, “But those things which Yahweh foretold by the mouth of all the prophets, that the Messiah must suffer, He has fulfilled this.”
Mattithyah 1:21-23, “And she will give birth to a Son and you will call His Name YAHSHUA; (Yahweh is Salvation); for Yahweh will save His people from their sins. Now all this was done to fulfill what Yahweh had spoken through the prophet (Isayah 7:14), saying: Behold a virgin will conceive, and bear a Son, and will bring forth the sign IMMANUYAH-which means that Yahweh Of Hosts Is With Us.
Matt 2:15, “And remained there until the death of Herod. And so was fulfilled what Yahweh had spoken by the prophet (Hosheyah 11:1) saying: from Egypt I have called My Son.”
Matt 2:17, “Then what was spoken by Yeremayh (Jeremiah 31:15) the prophet was fulfilled; a voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation and bitter weeping; Rachel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children, because they were no more.”
Matt 2:23, “And he went and lived in a city called Nazareth. So was fulfilled what was spoken through the prophets (Zecharyah 3:8 & 6:12); He will be called a Nazarene.”
Matt 4:14-16, “To fulfill what was spoken through the prophet Isayah (9:1-2), saying; the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, by the way of the sea, beyond Yardan, in Galilee of the Gentiles; the people who walked in darkness have seen a great Light; they who dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them the Light has shined.”
Matt 8:17, “This was to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet Isayah (53:5), saying: He was bruised for our iniquities, and by His stripes we are healed.”
Matt 12:17-20, “That it would be fulfilled what was spoken through Isayah (42:1-3) the prophet, saying: Behold! My Servant Whom I have chosen! My Elect One in Whom My soul delights! I have put My Spirit upon Him; He will bring forth judgment to the Gentiles. He will not cry, nor lift up His voice, nor cause His voice to be heard in the street. A bruised reed He will not break, and smoking flax He will not quench; until He brings forth judgment in truth.”
Matt 13:14-15, “And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isayah (6:9-10), which says: you will hear without ceasing, but you will not understand. You will see without ceasing, but you will not perceive . Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes, or they will see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and be converted, and healed.”
Matt 13:35, “ That it might be fulfilled what was spoken by the prophet (Psalm 78:2) saying: I will open My mouth in a parable. I will utter dark sayings-which have been kept secret since the foundation of the world.”
Matt 21:4-5, “All this was done to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet (Zecharyah 9:9), saying: rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout for joy, O daughter of Yerusalem! Behold, your King comes to you. He is just and lowly, and riding on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey.”
Matt 26:53-56, “Do you think that I cannot now pray to My Father, Who at once would give Me more than twelve legions of malakim? But then, how would the Scriptures be fulfilled, which say that all this must be so? At that same time, Yahshua said to the multitudes; have you come out, as against a robber, with swords and clubs to take Me? I sat daily with you teaching in the sacred precincts, and you did not arrest Me. But all this has been done, so that the Scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples abandoned Him, and fled.”
Matt 27:9-10, “Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Zecharyah (11:12-13) the prophet, saying: so they weighed for My price thirty pieces of silver, that considerable price that I was valued by them whom they of the children of Israyl had agreed to pay, and used them for the Potter’s Field, as Yahweh had appointed Me.”
Matt 27:35, “They nailed Him to a stake, and divided His garments, casting lots, that it might be fulfilled what was spoken by the prophet (Psalm 22:18): they divide My garments among them, and for My tallit they cast lots.”
Mark 14:49, 15:28, Luke 1:20, 4:21, 21:22, 21:32, 24:44, Yach (Jn) 12:38-41), 13:18, 15:25, 17:12, 18:9, 18:32, 19:24, 19:24, 19:36
All these are amazing prophecies that our Messiah fulfilled.
Mattithyah 5:17, "Do not even think that I have come to destroy the Law or the prophets; I have not come to destroy them, but to fulfill them." – First off twice in this one verse Yahshua says He “did not come to destroy the Law or the Prophets.” He said He came to “fulfill them.”
But has Messiah fulfilled all the Law and Prophets?
Are all the Feast days fulfilled? Are all the endtime prophecies fulfilled? Has Messiah fulfilled the prophecy of His return?
If you can find one single verse where Messiah says not to follow Yahweh's Law I will never speak it again.
