Israel or Palestine?

[zone]

Matthew 21:5
"Say to Daughter Zion,
'See, your king comes to you, gentle and riding on a donkey, and on a colt, the foal of a donkey.'"


epic FAIL?

 

[Abiding]

Note the words..

Jesus did not say ALL prophesy would be fulfilled

He said all prophesy (CONCERNING ME) would be fulfilled.

not all prophesy concerned Christ.

Jesus DID fulfill all prophesy concerning him as suffering servant, which is what he came as.

Also look at the words..

"it is finished"

if all prophesy was finished.. why was 70 AD and other things yet future?? guess it was not all finished on the cross. and it was NOY all about Jesus and salvation.

It is finishes concerns the work of Christ and salvation. Our salvation was paid in full. he completed his mission as suffering servant. DONE!

Right! now He has to give Israel land to worship Baal. I see.
Makes complete sense, that way all the world will see who God keeps His promises to.
Cool that makes complete sense to me....why should it have anything to do with salvation?
Silly me!

 

[Abiding]

“And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that All things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and the prophets and the psalms, concerning me.


does he include Daniel in the prophets thing?

Coarse not dont be silly. He doesnt count because.....i forget i think it was because that wasnt daniels prayer, ya thats it

 

[zone]

the understanding of Israel does cause
some rather big ramifications. Its leaven that has permeated the church. And has
had worldwide consequences.

But besides that No big deal

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Right! now He has to give Israel land to worship Baal.

He does? who said this?? why would he give them land to worship baal??

I see.
Makes complete sense, that way all the world will see who God keeps His promises to.
Cool that makes complete sense to me....why should it have anything to do with salvation?
Silly me!

lol.. So you think I believe God will them land to worship false gods?

I am worried you too do not read what I believe

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Coarse not dont be silly. He doesnt count because.....i forget i think it was because that wasnt daniels prayer, ya thats it

yeah lets be demeaning and cut people down. and not discuss things.

and people wonder why others get so upset!

 

[zone]

Right! now He has to give Israel land to worship Baal. I see.
Makes complete sense, that way all the world will see who God keeps His promises to.
Cool that makes complete sense to me....why should it have anything to do with salvation?
Silly me!

PARTIAL LIST OF CONTENTS: Rabbinic hatred for the am ha-aretz - 29 Hatred for heretics - 49 Censorship - 74 Judaism and America - 86 Decoy texts - 124 The Principal Sources of the Divine Law of the Religion of Orthodox Judaism - 126 The Rabbinic Eras - 134 Deceit Mechanism - 136 Hermeneutic of Concealment - 149 Power Over the Court System - 153 Non-negotiable Rabbinic Dogma - 161 The Tarnish on Hillel's Golden Rule - 163 Self-Perpetuating Legal and Textual Arcana - 168 Falsifying Scripture with Gezara Shava - 169 A Hedge Around the Law - 172 Permissible Dissimulation through Dispensational Revelation - 174 Self-Worship - 183 Masoretic Text Falsifies the Bible - 190 Tyranny and Priestcraft - 196 Hold Back Your Children from Higayon - 218 Dead Fetish Ritual: The Torah Scrolls - 223 The Talmud - A Lawyer's Book - 233 From Kabbalah to Aggadah: A Sexual Progression - 237 Pagan Reincarnation Dogma in Orthodox Judaism - 242 Hasidic Paganism - 254 Sex Magic Part II - 256 Goddess Worship in Judaism - 266 Kiddush Levanah: Worship of the Moon - 269 The Kabbalistic Renaissiance - 289 False Messiah Syndrome - 300 Inferiority of Gentiles - 358 Jesus in the Talmud - 384 Halacha of Mesirah - 426 Chabad-Lubavitch - 453 Critics of Judaism smeared as Esau - 463 Halachos of Manslaughter - 477 Divine Mandate to Kill Christians - 483 Maimonides and Islam - 491 Noachide Hoax - 496 Rabbinic Texts: Virulent Source of Anti-Black Racism - 505 Maimonides and Kabbalah - 514 Kaparot: The Sin Chicken - 516 The Falsified Schindler's List Quote - 526 Non-Jews are Supernal Refuse - 529 Cursing the homes and graves of gentiles - 534 Images and Talismans - 541 Ariel Toaff's suppressed history of ritual murder - 559 Martin Luther and Immanuel Kant - 636 Johann Reuchlin - 652 Sodomy in the Synagogue - 672 Molestation of Infants in the Circumcision Rite (Bris) - 678 A Homo-Erotic Culture - 684 Rabbinic Hatred of Women - 706 Phariseeism Begins in Menstrual Blood - 729 Inside the Menstrual Science of the Rabbis - 736 The X-Rated Talmud - 749 The Rabbinic Penchant for Spinning Tall Tales - 753 Judaism and Kabbalah: An Inseparable Unity - 766 Pulsa D'nura curse - 781 The Golem of Prague - 802 The Maharal Judah Loew and John Dee - 816 The Secret of Purim - 823 Who are the Jews Today? - 838 Judaic Opposition to Judaism - 848 Moses Hess and the Covert Relationship between Judaism, Zionism and Communism - 853 Judaism and Abortion - 878 Converts and Conversions - 894 Yom Tov: Holy Days and Observances - 912 The Hanukkah Hoax - 915 The Hebrew Calendar - 924 Pesach (Passover) - 926 The Ninth of Av (Tisha B'Av) - 932 Totalitarian Obligation to Obey the Rabbis in All Things - 935 Rosh Hashanah - 940 Shabbos - 942 Kosher (Kashrut) Food Racket - 955 Business Ethics - 963 Yom Kippur: The Kol Nidrei Nullification of Vows - 965 Temple Mount Kotel Hoax - 1014 The Talmudic Mentality - 1024 Russian Petition to Classify the Kitzur Shulchan Aruch as Hate Literature - 1027 Index - 1050

 

[zone]

 

[Abiding]

He does? who said this?? why would he give them land to worship baal??



lol.. So you think I believe God will them land to worship false gods?

I am worried you too do not read what I believe

Just poking you with my stick....cant help it its fun.
the other day i read a long crybaby post about Menachem Begin
and was pondering on the fact he was a buddist. And many times
ive wated to repost the requirements of reentering the land that
God made even tho the land promises have been fulfilled.

Just to see why so many believe God did 1948 which is a highly held view
that i just can see true. You talk about God keeping His promises well id
say He broke them is He created Israel in 1948.

 

[Abiding]

yeah lets be demeaning and cut people down. and not discuss things.

and people wonder why others get so upset!

Having some lightheartedness is good for the soul. Your welcome to tease me.
upsetness is a choice. Discussion is ongoing. Do you need a:

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Just poking you with my stick....cant help it its fun.
the other day i read a long crybaby post about Menachem Begin
and was pondering on the fact he was a buddist. And many times
ive wated to repost the requirements of reentering the land that
God made even tho the land promises have been fulfilled.

Just to see why so many believe God did 1948 which is a highly held view
that i just can see true. You talk about God keeping His promises well id
say He broke them is He created Israel in 1948.

lol.. well again. I do not think God created Isreal in 1948, or fulfilled his promise to them in 1948,, yet again I have stated this many times before. And since the discussion right now is my belief vs your belief.. well I hope you get the idea. .

the facts are, They have not yet repented. Prophesy is clear. he will not give them "peace in their land" until they repent.. so until this is fulfilled. Prophesy is not fulfilled.

I understand your trying to be lighthearted. But it is hard to take when you have someone else in here saying I believe the very things you are being lighthearted about. which is not true.

so I hope you can understand my frustration.

 

[crossnote]

To all reading and following this thread Do we all agree that Daniel 9;24 is talking about Yeshua giving HIS life on Passover 2000 or so years ago This is a Yes or No question lets start with what we can all agree on Thanks This way we can keep an even playing field for all. Thanks

YOu didn't answer my previous question to you...nah nah nah nah nah.

 

[Abiding]

lol.. well again. I do not think God created Isreal in 1948, or fulfilled his promise to them in 1948,, yet again I have stated this many times before. And since the discussion right now is my belief vs your belief.. well I hope you get the idea. .

the facts are, They have not yet repented. Prophesy is clear. he will not give them "peace in their land" until they repent.. so until this is fulfilled. Prophesy is not fulfilled.

I understand your trying to be lighthearted. But it is hard to take when you have someone else in here saying I believe the very things you are being lighthearted about. which is not true.

so I hope you can understand my frustration.

Oppss sorry EG. I rekon i never even asked you your view on that. Im sorry!
Darn im sure theres something else i can razz you over...i just know it

And if they repent they will receive the gospel.

Hey i cant be involved with your dealy with zone.
That just hurts. I want a private dealy between me and you exclusively!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Oppss sorry EG. I rekon i never even asked you your view on that. Im sorry!
Darn im sure theres something else i can razz you over...i just know it

And if they repent they will receive the gospel.

Hey i cant be involved with your dealy with zone.
That just hurts. I want a private dealy between me and you exclusively!

its ok. And thanks for being honest that you did not know something.. Thats honorable.

And I am not asking you to get into my thing with zone. Just admit that you understand I don't beieve some things she says I do.. which you have done..

 

[wdeaton65]

YOu didn't answer my previous question to you...nah nah nah nah nah.

What question sorry trying to follow I type real slow and you people are well versed in how to use the posting tools I am still learning help me out what question? thanks

 

[crossnote]

Deciphering Zechariah 14:5 - LXX

LXX | Deciphering Zechariah 14:5 < click

worth the 30 or so days it will take.

compare it then to this:

Zech 14:4
And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which [is] before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, [and there shall be] a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

in that day:

The Jews thought that Elias would come again before the days of the Messiah

And this, they say, will be one day before the coming of the Messiah. ... So Trypho the Jew, the same with R. Tarphon, so often mentioned in Talmudic ... "shall not know himself, nor have any power, "till Elias comes", and anoints him in that day
etc.

find out what they believed about that day.


Matthew 11:14
And if you are willing to accept it, he [John] is the Elijah who was to come.


Matthew 21
The Triumphal Entry
1Now when they drew near to Jerusalem and came to Bethphage, to the Mount of Olives, then Jesus sent two disciples, 2saying to them, “Go into the village in front of you, and immediately you will find a donkey tied, and a colt with her. Untie them and bring them to me. 3If anyone says anything to you, you shall say, ‘The Lord needs them,’ and he will send them at once.” 4This took place to fulfill what was spoken by the prophet, saying,

5 “Say to the daughter of Zion,
‘Behold, your king is coming to you,
humble, and mounted on a donkey,
anda on a colt, the foal of a beast of burden.’”

6The disciples went and did as Jesus had directed them. 7They brought the donkey and the colt and put on them their cloaks, and he sat on them. 8Most of the crowd spread their cloaks on the road, and others cut branches from the trees and spread them on the road. 9And the crowds that went before him and that followed him were shouting, “Hosanna to the Son of David! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord! Hosanna in the highest!” 10And when he entered Jerusalem, the whole city was stirred up, saying, “Who is this?” 11And the crowds said, “This is the prophet Jesus, from Nazareth of Galilee.”

Luke 21
37And every day he was teaching in the temple, but at night he went out and lodged on the mount called Olivet. 38And early in the morning all the people came to him in the temple to hear him.


The Sermon on the Mount (anglicized from the Matthean Vulgate Latin section title: Sermo in monte) is a collection of sayings and teachings of Jesus, which emphasizes his moral teaching found in the Gospel of Matthew (chapters 5, 6 and 7).[1] It is the first of the Five Discourses of Matthew and takes place relatively early in the Ministry of Jesus after he has been baptized by John the Baptist and preached in Galilee.

The Sermon is the longest piece of teaching from Jesus in the New Testament, and has been one of the most widely quoted elements of the Canonical Gospels.[2] It includes some of the best known teachings of Jesus, such as the Beatitudes, and the widely recited Lord's Prayer. To most believers in Jesus, the Sermon on the Mount contains the central tenets of Christian discipleship.[2]

Sermon on the Mount - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click

RE the first link. It's a shame it takes a 50+ page article to muddle the Zech. 14:5 passage. Now I've got a migraine

 

[eternally-gratefull]

RE the first link. It's a shame it takes a 50+ page article to muddle the Zech. 14:5 passage. Now I've got a migraine

lol.. when was the mountain split in two?? I did not read that in any response given you

 

[Abiding]

Mt 10:34Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
Think not that I have come to bring peace in the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.

Luke 12:51 Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division

 

[wdeaton65]

RE the first link. It's a shame it takes a 50+ page article to muddle the Zech. 14:5 passage. Now I've got a migraine

crossnote I can go through with you Zec. 14 and Daniel 9;24 word for word if you like I dont need the kj niv and those translators who taught you what it says. I trust no man period. How would you like to proceed if you want the whole thing lets go PM so we dont bog down all the readers on this thread. Most wont understand anyway. However some I see on here have done there studies and can rightly divide the word of truth. They have learned GOD uses Pictures to give us concrete meanings as to not be taken advantage of by abstract thinkers and teachers. thanks sorry I missed you question the first time

 

[Abiding]

John 3:12If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?