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I watched it with my wife. We enjoyed it. I was also impressed that it showed some of the problems and the personality clash. I don't know how accurate Kelsey Grammer's portrayal was. It seemed a bit too low key, but maybe that's how it was.
Does anyone know the people portrayed in it? Or go to their church? Calvary Chapel I think it was. Greg Laurie is the pastor.
I've only read about him, never met him, as I don't live in the US. Is Christianity popular in California, what happened to the hippie movement...did they all turn to Christ?
I've only read about him, never met him, as I don't live in the US. Is Christianity popular in California, what happened to the hippie movement...did they all turn to Christ?
Yea in the movie, Greg Laurie took over, or was handed the reigns of the Calvary Chapel.
That was not mentioned or hinted at all in the movie.
I never understood why San Francisco was a gay Mecca. Apparently all the draft dodgers that were homosexual gathered there, as they weren't allowed in the military. They were part of the hippie movement that was into drugs and 'free love'.
They got bored with their acid trips and happenings and turned to Jesus?
Thing is, you can't pray the gay away.
"Thing is, you can't pray the gay away"
I don't think that is entirely true. There are many testimonies on record to the fact that Christ has transformed gays, and made them straight.
I don't think that is entirely true. There are many testimonies on record to the fact that Christ has transformed gays, and made them straight.
mm don't think so, also, conversion therapy is now banned/illegal at least in my country.
It doesn't seem to have lasting effect.
It didn't for Lonnie Frisbee anyway.
It is still true, "If any man be in Christ, he is a new creation, OLD THINGS HAVE PASSED AWAY, behold, ALL things have become new".
If you read Romans 1, you discover that homosexuality is the result of knowingly rejecting God. In my very early years as a believer, I had a bit to do with homosexuals. Romans 1 makes perfect sense to me.
A good friend of mine was a homosexual before he was saved. He went to Bible college, married, two kids, the whole deal. He backslid and went back to his old lifestyle, which took his life. He repented before he died.
Homosexual lust is a demon. Unless the demon is cast out, the temptation will never go away. And the believer absolutely must confront and repent of the sin. If they try to excuse themselves or say God does not care, they will remain bound all their lives.
Homosexuality is sin, but no worse than any other. There's a list of sins that disqualifies people from entering the kingdom of God. Homosexuality is only one of them.
Lord Jesus came to set the captives free. That includes those captive to homosexuality.
It didn't for Lonnie because he was walking in rebellion. The wages of sin is still death.
So what happened, was he saved or not saved? Why was he walking in rebellion? Could nobody cast out his demon?
Movie doesn't elaborate.
So what were homosexuals worshipping, it says they were changing the glory of God into images of man, birds, and four-footed animals and creeping things. see Romans 1:23
Can you give an example of homosexuals doing this? I don't quite get it. As far as I know, those who are homosexual or not straight knew from an early age they were, even before puberty, so how could it be lust.
I believe he was initially saved but perused a certain lifestyle. Why? I can only surmise that he yielded to temptation. I don't know if he had a demon. One does not need a demon to live sinfully. I don't believe that a Christian can be 'demonized'. However, I believe Scripture teaches that a Christian can forfeit their salvation through unfaithfulness and thus possibly become demonized.
Oh ok but all hippies did that. That's why there were called hippies, they didn't conform to what was expected of them. They went barefoot to church which apparently was a no-no, even though Jesus washed peoples feet.
In the movie, it was made out that Greg Laurie became a straight up christian pastor, and overcame his bastard background, because apparently, if you had a single mother parent or didn't marry your girlfriend you weren't allowed in church or some nonsense like that.
So it was more about respectability and following a religion that was a new straight lifestyle after being a free spirit than anything else. The only thing that the hippies really changed was bringing their guitars to church and sitting cross-legged on the floor instead of on the hard pews, it seemed to me.
I wished the movie had answered some deeper questions about faith, rather than be an advertisement for Calvary Chapel.
The lost youth of yesterday and today are always prime for conversion, but the thing is just what they are being saved from. If its gathering the lost sheep then ok, all bringing new sheep in perhaps, but I just wondered about where the real Jesus was, rather than the whole thing being a power play about who would lead this church.
So it was more about respectability and following a religion that was a new straight lifestyle after being a free spirit than anything else. The only thing that the hippies really changed was bringing their guitars to church and sitting cross-legged on the floor instead of on the hard pews, it seemed to me.
I wished the movie had answered some deeper questions about faith, rather than be an advertisement for Calvary Chapel.
The lost youth of yesterday and today are always prime for conversion, but the thing is just what they are being saved from. If its gathering the lost sheep then ok, all bringing new sheep in perhaps, but I just wondered about where the real Jesus was, rather than the whole thing being a power play about who would lead this church.
One interesting thing was Greg Laurie made some tracts that were kind of like chick tracts, remember those? It was like evangelistic comics/graphics for kids.
I know there was even a Manga Bible at one point where Jesus became this Japanese anime figure.
I'm not opposed to this, you'd do anything to reach out, but I thought there might be a lasting ministry like YMCA or Salvation Army or something. When the hippies grew up and got jobs they just crossed over to become corporate raider yuppies. Calvary Chapel sold out and now has all the merch, and even Bibles named after Greg Laurie.
I thought one of the reasons hippies became hippies was not just the drugs, but they were peace-loving and didn't want to fight a useless war in Vietnam.
I know there was even a Manga Bible at one point where Jesus became this Japanese anime figure.
I'm not opposed to this, you'd do anything to reach out, but I thought there might be a lasting ministry like YMCA or Salvation Army or something. When the hippies grew up and got jobs they just crossed over to become corporate raider yuppies. Calvary Chapel sold out and now has all the merch, and even Bibles named after Greg Laurie.
I thought one of the reasons hippies became hippies was not just the drugs, but they were peace-loving and didn't want to fight a useless war in Vietnam.
