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Mem

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Wait, is ignorance a legitimate defense?!
"Hey, Lord! that was a sin?! Well, oops on me, I didn't know...:oops:!
 

montana123

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Jesus says: 'Do your first Works!' Rev 2:5
Today they say: 'It's not of Works'

Jesus says: 'Produce deeds Worthy of Repentance', Matthew 3:8
Today they say: 'Admit your a sinner and confess'

Jesus says thru John: 'He who Does what is Right is Righteous', 1 John 3:7
Today they say: 'No one is Righteous'

Jesus says: 'Judge Righteous Judgment', John 7:24
Today they say: 'Judge not'

Jesus says thru James: 'Cleanse Self of all Filthiness and Wickedness', James 1:21
Today they say: 'All our acts are filthy rags'

Jesus says thru Paul: 'Depart from iniquity, go and sin no more', 2 Tim 2:19
Today they say: 'If I could stop sinning I wouldn't need Jesus

Jesus also said he that sins is the servant of sin, John 8:34
Today they say: blah, blah, blah
We might sin after we have been saved but we should repent of it, and not want the sin anymore, and allow the Spirit to lead us.

There is a difference between being led of the Holy Spirit and committing a sin, and repenting of it not wanting it anymore, and moving forward in the Spirit, and someone holding on to sin, and repenting of it but not really giving up the sin but only repenting of it when they do it, and some people do not repent of it thinking it is unnecessary.

There is a lot of hypocrisy among people who claim Christianity that they are holding on to sin which you can see many are hypocritical by their lifestyle and actions, and believe they are right with God.

And many people say we are saved by faith, and that is all we need, and then they hold on to sin enjoying sin believing they can never fall because they have faith which they use that as an excuse that they are alright.

But charity, love in action, works, is greater than faith, and faith works by love.

If they do not have love then their faith does not count to save them.

Which the Bible says charity does not think an evil thought, and does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth to abstain from sin.

Love does not want to sin.

And the excuse we are only human so we cannot abstain from sin does not apply because the Bible says a Spirit led life will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh because they have crucified the flesh with the affection and lusts which means there is no desire to sin, and they will only show the ways of the Spirit.

Also people sin because they enjoy the sin because if they did not enjoy the sin they would not do it.

So they cannot act as if they are sinning and cannot help it, and do not want the sin because if they sin then that means they enjoy it and want the sin, which the Bible says they are wilfully sinning so they are doing it on purpose so how is there an excuse.

The world does not have an excuse for their sin so how can saints have an excuse for their sin.

They say we cannot abstain from sin but they are sinning on purpose knowing they are sinning, and who twisted their arm to sin, or fooled them to sin that they sinned but did not want to sin.

They wanted to sin and then act as if there is an excuse for their sin.

2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

The people that confess Christ have to depart from iniquity which is what seals the saints that they are with Jesus.

Which Jesus said you will know them by their fruits.

Which is the will of the Father that the saints abstain from sin which they could not be with Jesus for they were workers of iniquity.

Which there is no excuse for a Spirit led life will not sin.

These people want to enjoy sin and then say they are alright, and use the excuse they cannot abstain from sin.

2Ti 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

They have a form of godliness but they deny the Spirit leading them because they want to enjoy sin being led of the flesh, which the Bible says to turn away from these people because of their hypocrisy.

They are ever learning, and never able to come to the truth that they have to abstain from sin to have a relationship with God.

They are lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God which they love sin more than Him.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

If they hold on to sin then the blood of Christ cannot wash away that sin for God will not take away a sin they hold on to, but some people will use the excuse the sin is forgiven even when they hold on to the sin.

There are millions of people claiming Christianity that are enjoying the things of the world and holding on to that position with worldly entertainment, and loving money for their wants, and believe it is alright.

That is one of the reasons the world thinks that Christianity is not the answer for the world because of the millions of people that are hypocritical which they will cling to the new age movement interpretation of the Bible, and why many people will not embrace Christianity, but some people of the world will make up an excuse because they do not want to accept Christianity.
 
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Yeah, those that have been brain washed by the false teachers to reject the whole counsel of God... say foolish stuff like that frequently crazy.gif


just one single thing might have given me hope that you are actually a sincere person...an apology for the false things you have
said about me
You're the one claiming to be a follower of those that teach a different jesus and a different gospel.

I'm simply speaking against a false belief system... it's not my fault you have been deceived by said false belief system and get'cho feelings all hurt cause someone called out the false teachings of the false teachers!

You should get better friends! funny.gif
 
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Yeah, those that have been brain washed by the false teachers to reject the whole counsel of God... say foolish stuff like that frequently View attachment 257575




You're the one claiming to be a follower of those that teach a different jesus and a different gospel.

I'm simply speaking against a false belief system... it's not my fault you have been deceived by said false belief system and get'cho feelings all hurt cause someone called out the false teachings of the false teachers!

You should get better friends! View attachment 257576
perhaps one day you will actually repent and understand how far off the actual gospel you are...but there is that ego of yours.....
 
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perhaps one day you will actually repent and understand how far off the actual gospel you are...but there is that ego of yours.....
That's what the followers of they unrepentant murderer John Calvin keep claiming.

They are the scripture twisters... it's where OSAS came from and Calvin got it from that pagan monk Augustine stupid.gif

All he had to do is teach what God's Word teaches... but he's in the group of deceivers God warned us about in His Word!


1 Timothy 4:1,2
Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron

("depart from the faith" is not referring to sinners in the world who never came to faith in the first place)

1 Timothy 6:3-5 (see Luke 11:23 and 2 Peter 3:2)
If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness (holiness); (Doctrine of Christ, aka Doctrine of the Apostles)
He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof comes envy, strife, railings, evil thoughts… Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

2 Timothy 4:3,4
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine (teaching); but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2 Peter 2:1-3
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying (contradicting, Not agreeing with) the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
And through covetousness (idolatry) shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingers not, and their damnation slumbers not.

Jude 1:4
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness (no self control, living after the flesh), and denying (contradicting, opposing Jesus’ teachings) the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. (referring to false teachers and false brethren - see Matthew 13:24-30)
(Deny = Strong's G0720… to contradict, disavow, reject, deny, refuse - and Strong's G4483… the idea of pouring forth, to utter, speak of or say, command)

Jude 1:17-21
Remember the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
These are those who
separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
But you, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
("those who separate themselves" is not referring to sinners in the world who were never joined unto the Lord in the first place)

Acts 20:27-30
For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
 

Dino246

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That's what the followers of they unrepentant murderer John Calvin keep claiming.
It's clear that you are simply unable to receive criticism. Instead you throw shade at anyone who calls you out. That is the mark of a sinner desperately trying to hide, not a confident follower of Christ.
 
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That's what the followers of they unrepentant murderer John Calvin keep claiming.

They are the scripture twisters... it's where OSAS came from and Calvin got it from that pagan monk Augustine


All he had to do is teach what God's Word teaches... but he's in the group of deceivers God warned us about in His Word!
I think you would do well in the flat earth thread. On the flat side
 
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Niki7

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That just proves further you don't know what you are talking about...
you need to get out of the basement and go for a walk in fresh air. your remarks are inaccurate and really boring at this point. maybe you need exercise to stimulate the brain cells that you have not damaged beyond repair
 

john832

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Jesus says: 'Do your first Works!' Rev 2:5
Today they say: 'It's not of Works'

Jesus says: 'Produce deeds Worthy of Repentance', Matthew 3:8
Today they say: 'Admit your a sinner and confess'

Jesus says thru John: 'He who Does what is Right is Righteous', 1 John 3:7
Today they say: 'No one is Righteous'

Jesus says: 'Judge Righteous Judgment', John 7:24
Today they say: 'Judge not'

Jesus says thru James: 'Cleanse Self of all Filthiness and Wickedness', James 1:21
Today they say: 'All our acts are filthy rags'

Jesus says thru Paul: 'Depart from iniquity, go and sin no more', 2 Tim 2:19
Today they say: 'If I could stop sinning I wouldn't need Jesus

Jesus also said he that sins is the servant of sin, John 8:34
Today they say: blah, blah, blah
Here is one you missed...

Act 2:38 Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Today they say Jesus did it all for us.

And another...

Eph_2:10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

They say no works.

There are many more but maybe someone else can add some also.
 
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you need to get out of the basement and go for a walk in fresh air. your remarks are inaccurate and really boring at this point. maybe you need exercise to stimulate the brain cells that you have not damaged beyond repair
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That's hilarious... keep 'em coming!

Thanks for the chuckle! thumbsup2.gif

If I'm so boring, why are you following me around? clueless-scratching.gif
 
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