John 3:16 and the lazy interpreters

[Jon777]

Joh 3 | KJVA | STEP | There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

*On the right-side panel, click on “world (kosmos - κόσμος)” to see the following:

κόσμος (kosmos) world (G2889)
(Noun Accusative Singular Masculine)

Meaningworld: earth, world system, whole universe; adornment. In some contexts, the world is simply the place where people live, in other contexts (especially in John), the world is a system opposed to God

• world: earth, world system, whole universe;
• adornment. In some contexts, the world is simply the place where people live, in other contexts (especially in John), the world is a system opposed to God
• (1) primarily. order, regular disposition;
• ornament, decoration, embellishment, 1Pet. 3:3;
• (2) the world, the material universe, Mt. 13:35;
• the world, the aggregate of sensitive existence, 1Cor. 4:9; the lower world, the earth, Mk. 16:15;
• the world, the aggregate of mankind, Mt. 5:14;
• the world, the public, Jn. 7:4;
• in NT the present order of things, the secular world, Jn. 18:36;
• the human race external to the Jewish nation, the heathen world, Rom. 11:12, 15;
• the world external to the Christian body, 1Jn. 3:1, 13;
• the world or material system of the Mosaic covenant, Gal. 4:3; Col. 2:8, 20

Noticing “aggregate of mankind” above, keep in mind:

aggregate = one unified whole vs. individuals = many separate persons

“And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.” (1John 2:2, KJV)

This verse does not change the point, for as the two meanings above show:

the human race external to the Jewish nation, the heathen world, Rom. 11:12, 15;
the world external to the Christian body, 1Jn. 3:1, 13

John Wesley on John 3:16 wrote: “God so loved the world - That is, all men under heaven; even those that despise his love and, will for that cause finally perish.”

The Arminian of today, like Wesley, makes no attempt to prove their assertion that “world’ means each and every individual person. That is a lazy man's interpretation who does not attempt to prove his meaning of "world" in the verse.

 

[tourist]

I'm not at all sure what the point of the OP is. I don't give squat to what the interpretation of John Wesley is in regard to John 3:16. That piece of scripture speaks for itself and is in no need of some twisted and warped interpretation.

 

[wattie]

Joh 3 | KJVA | STEP | There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

*On the right-side panel, click on “world (kosmos - κόσμος)” to see the following:

κόσμος (kosmos) world (G2889)
(Noun Accusative Singular Masculine)

Meaningworld: earth, world system, whole universe; adornment. In some contexts, the world is simply the place where people live, in other contexts (especially in John), the world is a system opposed to God

• world: earth, world system, whole universe;
• adornment. In some contexts, the world is simply the place where people live, in other contexts (especially in John), the world is a system opposed to God
• (1) primarily. order, regular disposition;
• ornament, decoration, embellishment, 1Pet. 3:3;
• (2) the world, the material universe, Mt. 13:35;
• the world, the aggregate of sensitive existence, 1Cor. 4:9; the lower world, the earth, Mk. 16:15;
• the world, the aggregate of mankind, Mt. 5:14;
• the world, the public, Jn. 7:4;
• in NT the present order of things, the secular world, Jn. 18:36;
• the human race external to the Jewish nation, the heathen world, Rom. 11:12, 15;
• the world external to the Christian body, 1Jn. 3:1, 13;
• the world or material system of the Mosaic covenant, Gal. 4:3; Col. 2:8, 20

Noticing “aggregate of mankind” above, keep in mind:

aggregate = one unified whole vs. individuals = many separate persons

“And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.” (1John 2:2, KJV)

This verse does not change the point, for as the two meanings above show:

the human race external to the Jewish nation, the heathen world, Rom. 11:12, 15;
the world external to the Christian body, 1Jn. 3:1, 13

John Wesley on John 3:16 wrote: “God so loved the world - That is, all men under heaven; even those that despise his love and, will for that cause finally perish.”

The Arminian of today, like Wesley, makes no attempt to prove their assertion that “world’ means each and every individual person. That is a lazy man's interpretation who does not attempt to prove his meaning of "world" in the verse.

There are those of us who are neither Calvinist nor Armenian. Biblicist is where I'd like to stand on.

 

[Gideon300]

Joh 3 | KJVA | STEP | There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

*On the right-side panel, click on “world (kosmos - κόσμος)” to see the following:

κόσμος (kosmos) world (G2889)
(Noun Accusative Singular Masculine)

Meaningworld: earth, world system, whole universe; adornment. In some contexts, the world is simply the place where people live, in other contexts (especially in John), the world is a system opposed to God

• world: earth, world system, whole universe;
• adornment. In some contexts, the world is simply the place where people live, in other contexts (especially in John), the world is a system opposed to God
• (1) primarily. order, regular disposition;
• ornament, decoration, embellishment, 1Pet. 3:3;
• (2) the world, the material universe, Mt. 13:35;
• the world, the aggregate of sensitive existence, 1Cor. 4:9; the lower world, the earth, Mk. 16:15;
• the world, the aggregate of mankind, Mt. 5:14;
• the world, the public, Jn. 7:4;
• in NT the present order of things, the secular world, Jn. 18:36;
• the human race external to the Jewish nation, the heathen world, Rom. 11:12, 15;
• the world external to the Christian body, 1Jn. 3:1, 13;
• the world or material system of the Mosaic covenant, Gal. 4:3; Col. 2:8, 20

Noticing “aggregate of mankind” above, keep in mind:

aggregate = one unified whole vs. individuals = many separate persons

“And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.” (1John 2:2, KJV)

This verse does not change the point, for as the two meanings above show:

the human race external to the Jewish nation, the heathen world, Rom. 11:12, 15;
the world external to the Christian body, 1Jn. 3:1, 13

John Wesley on John 3:16 wrote: “God so loved the world - That is, all men under heaven; even those that despise his love and, will for that cause finally perish.”

The Arminian of today, like Wesley, makes no attempt to prove their assertion that “world’ means each and every individual person. That is a lazy man's interpretation who does not attempt to prove his meaning of "world" in the verse.

Do you know who Jesus died for? Do you know the people that Jesus did not die for? If you know neither of those truths, the whole Arminian/Calvinist discussion is pointless.

Extreme Calvinism is more dangerous than Arminianism. Extreme Calvinists are careless with evangelism because "God will save them anyway". Lord Jesus told us to go and preach the gospel. He did not say to pick and choose who we should preach to.

Do you know the meaning of the word "any"? My Bible says that God is not willing that any should perish. (2 Peter 3:9) How about this: "Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Lord GOD. Wouldn’t I prefer that he turn from his ways and live?" Ezekiel 18:23

Nit picking divisiveness is not helpful. Wesley was one of the truly great preachers. Tell us all your track record, how many people you've preached to and how many you've led to Jesus. Maybe I will be more impressed by your intellectual prowess when I see how fruitful your Christian life is.

No, I'm not Methodist. However, the man who led me to Jesus was. I'm glad he did not look at me and say, "Nah, God would not save someone like that".

 

[Aussie52]

Joh 3 | KJVA | STEP | There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

*On the right-side panel, click on “world (kosmos - κόσμος)” to see the following:

κόσμος (kosmos) world (G2889)
(Noun Accusative Singular Masculine)

Meaningworld: earth, world system, whole universe; adornment. In some contexts, the world is simply the place where people live, in other contexts (especially in John), the world is a system opposed to God

• world: earth, world system, whole universe;
• adornment. In some contexts, the world is simply the place where people live, in other contexts (especially in John), the world is a system opposed to God
• (1) primarily. order, regular disposition;
• ornament, decoration, embellishment, 1Pet. 3:3;
• (2) the world, the material universe, Mt. 13:35;
• the world, the aggregate of sensitive existence, 1Cor. 4:9; the lower world, the earth, Mk. 16:15;
• the world, the aggregate of mankind, Mt. 5:14;
• the world, the public, Jn. 7:4;
• in NT the present order of things, the secular world, Jn. 18:36;
• the human race external to the Jewish nation, the heathen world, Rom. 11:12, 15;
• the world external to the Christian body, 1Jn. 3:1, 13;
• the world or material system of the Mosaic covenant, Gal. 4:3; Col. 2:8, 20

Noticing “aggregate of mankind” above, keep in mind:

aggregate = one unified whole vs. individuals = many separate persons

“And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.” (1John 2:2, KJV)

This verse does not change the point, for as the two meanings above show:

the human race external to the Jewish nation, the heathen world, Rom. 11:12, 15;
the world external to the Christian body, 1Jn. 3:1, 13

John Wesley on John 3:16 wrote: “God so loved the world - That is, all men under heaven; even those that despise his love and, will for that cause finally perish.”

The Arminian of today, like Wesley, makes no attempt to prove their assertion that “world’ means each and every individual person. That is a lazy man's interpretation who does not attempt to prove his meaning of "world" in the verse.

You build a 'strawman' argument and then attempt to tear it down. As a Wesleyan Arminian, I'm not impressed. Speaking of John Wesley, if any of us were half the Christian he was, we would have revival today.

 

[Jon777]

I read a lot of huffing and puffing, but so far no one has given the reason why “world” actually means every human living, has lived or will live.

“Here is something, beloved, which you must not forget: in the Lord’s sight one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like one day. It is not that the Lord is slow in keeping his promise, as some suppose, but that he is patient with you. It is not his will that any should be lost, but that all should come to repentance.” (2Pet 3:8-9, Revised English Bible, 1989)

A Greek and English lexicon of the New Testament, Edward Robinson, 1836
Βούλομαι, “b) Of God, and so i. q. Φέλω, see above ; to will, to be pleased, to choose, to determine ; absol. James 1, 18; ο. infin. aor. Luke 22, 42 πάτερ, el βούλει παρενεγκεῖν τὸ ποτήριον τοῦτο am’ ἐμοῦ. Heb. 6, 17; acc. et infin. 2 Pet. 3, 9. Also of Jesus as the Son of God, c. inf. aor. Matt. 11, 27. Luke 10, 22. Once of the Holy Spirit, c. inf. impl. 1 Cor. 12, 11.—Hom. Π. 1. 67. ib. 13. 347.” Internet Archive, page 142

Thayer’s Greek Lexicon, 1889
βούλομαι “followed by an accusative with an infinitive 2 Peter 3:9. of the will electing or choosing between two or more things, answering to file Latinplacetmihi: Matthew 1:19 (cf. ἐνθυμεῖσθαι, )”

Abbot-Smith Manual Greek Lexicon, 1922
Βούλομαι “ to will, wish, desire, purpose, be minded, implying more strongly than θέλω (q.v.), the deliberate exercise of volition (v. Hort on Jas 1:18)… c. acc et inf., Php 1:12, 1Ti 2:8; 1Ti 5:14, Tit 3:8, 2Pe 3:9”

BDAG, 2000
Βούλομαι, “ to plan on a course of action, intend, plan, will, b of transcendent beings. Of God, AcPlCor 2:10, 12. Foll. by acc. w. inf. 2 Pt 3:9”

Point 1 – 2 Peter 1:1 is addressed to “ those who have received a faith as precious as ours”
Point 2 - Chapter 3 in v1 continues the address to the “beloved”, again, the elect
Point 3 - V9 is preceded by again being addressed to the “beloved”, again the elect
Point 4 - The 4 Greek-English Lexicons I have access to all indicate this is God’s will of decree, not the will of command.

Therefore, the “any” who God wills not to be lost, have to be any of the elect, OR, you have universal salvation. God is not pacing the halls of heaven indulging in ‘wishful thinking’! He has decreed who are the elect. SECRET TO US!

Article 17 of the 39 Articles (1571) of the Church of England begins: “Predestination to life is the everlasting purpose of God, whereby, before the foundations of the world were laid, He has constantly decreed by His counsel secret to us, to deliver from curse and damnation those whom He has chosen in Christ out of mankind, and to bring them by Christ to everlasting salvation as vessels made to honour.” https://www.crivoice.org/creed39.html

“And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;” (Rev 5:9, KJV)*The redeemed were redeemed OUT OF the world!

It has always amazed me why so many ignore who the epistles and letters of the NT were written to, the believers; and make it refer to every human in the world. I suppose you must do that to hold on to your man-made doctrines.

 

[DavidLamb]

Joh 3 | KJVA | STEP | There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

*On the right-side panel, click on “world (kosmos - κόσμος)” to see the following:

κόσμος (kosmos) world (G2889)
(Noun Accusative Singular Masculine)

Meaningworld: earth, world system, whole universe; adornment. In some contexts, the world is simply the place where people live, in other contexts (especially in John), the world is a system opposed to God

• world: earth, world system, whole universe;
• adornment. In some contexts, the world is simply the place where people live, in other contexts (especially in John), the world is a system opposed to God
• (1) primarily. order, regular disposition;
• ornament, decoration, embellishment, 1Pet. 3:3;
• (2) the world, the material universe, Mt. 13:35;
• the world, the aggregate of sensitive existence, 1Cor. 4:9; the lower world, the earth, Mk. 16:15;
• the world, the aggregate of mankind, Mt. 5:14;
• the world, the public, Jn. 7:4;
• in NT the present order of things, the secular world, Jn. 18:36;
• the human race external to the Jewish nation, the heathen world, Rom. 11:12, 15;
• the world external to the Christian body, 1Jn. 3:1, 13;
• the world or material system of the Mosaic covenant, Gal. 4:3; Col. 2:8, 20

Noticing “aggregate of mankind” above, keep in mind:

aggregate = one unified whole vs. individuals = many separate persons

“And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.” (1John 2:2, KJV)

This verse does not change the point, for as the two meanings above show:

the human race external to the Jewish nation, the heathen world, Rom. 11:12, 15;
the world external to the Christian body, 1Jn. 3:1, 13

John Wesley on John 3:16 wrote: “God so loved the world - That is, all men under heaven; even those that despise his love and, will for that cause finally perish.”

The Arminian of today, like Wesley, makes no attempt to prove their assertion that “world’ means each and every individual person. That is a lazy man's interpretation who does not attempt to prove his meaning of "world" in the verse.

I imagined that the OP was going to be about the little word "so." That English word has many meanings. How often do we hear people talk about John 3:16 as if it was telling us how much God loved. However, I am told that the Greek word translated "so" doesn't mean "so much", but rather, "thus", "in this way." So the verse is telling us how God loves the world. We also see from the remainder of the verse that it is those who believe in the Son of God who will not perish but have everlasting life.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

I read a lot of huffing and puffing, but so far no one has given the reason why “world” actually means every human living, has lived or will live.

I think the better question is why would "world" not mean the totality of humanity? Theological agenda is the only reason I can think of

 

[Cameron143]

Whosoever believes in Him is a subset of all humanity. The verse clearly states that Christ is only given for them that they might possess eternal life. The gospel is the power of God only to those who believe. There is no power exercised by God through the gospel towards unbelievers...Romans 1:16. The word of God goes forth from God's mouth and always accomplishes its purpose...Isaiah 55:11. Yet it doesn't always accomplish salvation. God's purpose isn't always to save, but when salvation is the purpose, He always accomplishes this. Salvation belongs to God...Psalm 3:8; He is mighty to save...Zephaniah 3:17.

 

[Jon777]

In clarification, I wish to add to this thread, some input I access, and it includes the scholarship of Methodists.

On my Bible Software I have three Methodists included in among the commentaries, and I DO consult them in my study and learn from them on many topics, and they are so far above the 'freewill' type teachers of today. Check how these 3 understand Matt. 24:34. The three I use are:

John Wesley (1703-1791)
Joseph Benson, (1749-1821)
Adam Clarke (1762-1832)

These 3 Methodists of course can be read online: https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/eng.html

In the spirit of Christian fellowship and dialogue, I'll give 3 excellent online resources that I have found and use.

The best online study Bible by far, I've found is the following:

STEPBible User Guide Contents

The STEPBible User Guide contains the following five sections: Starting Facilities Resources Guides About Starting Th...

stepbibleguide.blogspot.com

It is conservative and has so many features. You can even read the commentaries of Luther and Calvin plus many others. It has the language tools, etc.

There is a rather conservative Anglican, Church of England page available from the UK. There is a problem with some of the Bible translation links at the present time, but selecting "Parallel Holy Bible" you can even read the 1970 NEB, a very unique version

https://katapi.org.uk/index.html

So many web sites are so evangelical/conservative, the mainline translations are left out. There is a great site where you can access so many translations and also in parallel. This link I'm giving is the KJV with Apocrypha, alongside the NRSV Updated Edition w. Apocrypha.

Ecclesiasticus 16 | KJVAAE Bible | YouVersion

Ungodly Children No Delight # Prov 17.21; .13. Desire not a multitude of unprofitable children, neither delight in ungodly sons. Though they multiply, rejoice not in them, except the

www.bible.com

You can see that some versions title this book Sirach, and others Ecclesiasticus. It has cross references in the Apocrypha as you can see. Because the study resources above cover so much, it pays to take the time to learn to use each one. Hopefully someone among those who read on here as a guest maybe, can benefit from the Bible study helps.

 

[John146]

Joh 3 | KJVA | STEP | There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

*On the right-side panel, click on “world (kosmos - κόσμος)” to see the following:

κόσμος (kosmos) world (G2889)
(Noun Accusative Singular Masculine)

Meaningworld: earth, world system, whole universe; adornment. In some contexts, the world is simply the place where people live, in other contexts (especially in John), the world is a system opposed to God

• world: earth, world system, whole universe;
• adornment. In some contexts, the world is simply the place where people live, in other contexts (especially in John), the world is a system opposed to God
• (1) primarily. order, regular disposition;
• ornament, decoration, embellishment, 1Pet. 3:3;
• (2) the world, the material universe, Mt. 13:35;
• the world, the aggregate of sensitive existence, 1Cor. 4:9; the lower world, the earth, Mk. 16:15;
• the world, the aggregate of mankind, Mt. 5:14;
• the world, the public, Jn. 7:4;
• in NT the present order of things, the secular world, Jn. 18:36;
• the human race external to the Jewish nation, the heathen world, Rom. 11:12, 15;
• the world external to the Christian body, 1Jn. 3:1, 13;
• the world or material system of the Mosaic covenant, Gal. 4:3; Col. 2:8, 20

Noticing “aggregate of mankind” above, keep in mind:

aggregate = one unified whole vs. individuals = many separate persons

“And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.” (1John 2:2, KJV)

This verse does not change the point, for as the two meanings above show:

the human race external to the Jewish nation, the heathen world, Rom. 11:12, 15;
the world external to the Christian body, 1Jn. 3:1, 13

John Wesley on John 3:16 wrote: “God so loved the world - That is, all men under heaven; even those that despise his love and, will for that cause finally perish.”

The Arminian of today, like Wesley, makes no attempt to prove their assertion that “world’ means each and every individual person. That is a lazy man's interpretation who does not attempt to prove his meaning of "world" in the verse.

Go to the firsts mention principle in the KJV and you will find a biblical working definition.

1 Samuel 2:8 He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the Lord's, and he hath set the world upon them.

The world is the realm of lost man, Jew or Gentile. This world is set upon the pillars of the earth. That is where we live. Believers live in this world, but are not to love this world or be a part of this world.

 

[Jon777]

Go to the firsts mention principle in the KJV and you will find a biblical working definition.

1 Samuel 2:8 He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the Lord's, and he hath set the world upon them.

The world is the realm of lost man, Jew or Gentile. This world is set upon the pillars of the earth. That is where we live. Believers live in this world, but are not to love this world or be a part of this world.

To add to your reply, I'll quote from the Methodist, Joseph Benson, on this verse: 1 Sam. 2:8 -

"He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, &c. — From the most mean estate and sordid place. To set them among princes — Instance Joseph, David, and Daniel. To make them inherit the throne of glory — That is, a glorious throne or kingdom; not only to possess it themselves, but to transmit it to their posterity, as the word inherit implies. For the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s — The foundations which God created and upholds, and wherewith he sustains the earth and all its inhabitants, as a house is supported with pillars. These words signify the reason of all that is contained in the five preceding verses. For the very earth being founded, upheld, and supported by the Lord, it is no wonder that all the inhabitants of it are in his power, so that he can dispose of them as he pleases."

 

[Blade]

Praise God for His word but.. for you .. it may be lazy.. but to countless others its not at all. We need all of the pie

 

[Magenta]

Eternal Worth

 

[PaulThomson]

Joh 3 | KJVA | STEP | There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

*On the right-side panel, click on “world (kosmos - κόσμος)” to see the following:

κόσμος (kosmos) world (G2889)
(Noun Accusative Singular Masculine)

Meaningworld: earth, world system, whole universe; adornment. In some contexts, the world is simply the place where people live, in other contexts (especially in John), the world is a system opposed to God

• world: earth, world system, whole universe;
• adornment. In some contexts, the world is simply the place where people live, in other contexts (especially in John), the world is a system opposed to God
• (1) primarily. order, regular disposition;
• ornament, decoration, embellishment, 1Pet. 3:3;
• (2) the world, the material universe, Mt. 13:35;
• the world, the aggregate of sensitive existence, 1Cor. 4:9; the lower world, the earth, Mk. 16:15;
• the world, the aggregate of mankind, Mt. 5:14;
• the world, the public, Jn. 7:4;
• in NT the present order of things, the secular world, Jn. 18:36;
• the human race external to the Jewish nation, the heathen world, Rom. 11:12, 15;
• the world external to the Christian body, 1Jn. 3:1, 13;
• the world or material system of the Mosaic covenant, Gal. 4:3; Col. 2:8, 20

Noticing “aggregate of mankind” above, keep in mind:

aggregate = one unified whole vs. individuals = many separate persons

“And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.” (1John 2:2, KJV)

This verse does not change the point, for as the two meanings above show:

the human race external to the Jewish nation, the heathen world, Rom. 11:12, 15;
the world external to the Christian body, 1Jn. 3:1, 13

John Wesley on John 3:16 wrote: “God so loved the world - That is, all men under heaven; even those that despise his love and, will for that cause finally perish.”

The Arminian of today, like Wesley, makes no attempt to prove their assertion that “world’ means each and every individual person. That is a lazy man's interpretation who does not attempt to prove his meaning of "world" in the verse.

Looking at the context, Jesus was lifted up in the same way as the bronze serpent was lifted up. According to your reading of John 3, who was the bronze serpent lifted up to give life to in the desert?

 

[Gideon300]

I read a lot of huffing and puffing, but so far no one has given the reason why “world” actually means every human living, has lived or will live.

“Here is something, beloved, which you must not forget: in the Lord’s sight one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like one day. It is not that the Lord is slow in keeping his promise, as some suppose, but that he is patient with you. It is not his will that any should be lost, but that all should come to repentance.” (2Pet 3:8-9, Revised English Bible, 1989)

A Greek and English lexicon of the New Testament, Edward Robinson, 1836
Βούλομαι, “b) Of God, and so i. q. Φέλω, see above ; to will, to be pleased, to choose, to determine ; absol. James 1, 18; ο. infin. aor. Luke 22, 42 πάτερ, el βούλει παρενεγκεῖν τὸ ποτήριον τοῦτο am’ ἐμοῦ. Heb. 6, 17; acc. et infin. 2 Pet. 3, 9. Also of Jesus as the Son of God, c. inf. aor. Matt. 11, 27. Luke 10, 22. Once of the Holy Spirit, c. inf. impl. 1 Cor. 12, 11.—Hom. Π. 1. 67. ib. 13. 347.” Internet Archive, page 142

Thayer’s Greek Lexicon, 1889
βούλομαι “followed by an accusative with an infinitive 2 Peter 3:9. of the will electing or choosing between two or more things, answering to file Latinplacetmihi: Matthew 1:19 (cf. ἐνθυμεῖσθαι, )”

Abbot-Smith Manual Greek Lexicon, 1922
Βούλομαι “ to will, wish, desire, purpose, be minded, implying more strongly than θέλω (q.v.), the deliberate exercise of volition (v. Hort on Jas 1:18)… c. acc et inf., Php 1:12, 1Ti 2:8; 1Ti 5:14, Tit 3:8, 2Pe 3:9”

BDAG, 2000
Βούλομαι, “ View attachment 289787 to plan on a course of action, intend, plan, will, b of transcendent beings. Of God, AcPlCor 2:10, 12. Foll. by acc. w. inf. 2 Pt 3:9”

Point 1 – 2 Peter 1:1 is addressed to “ those who have received a faith as precious as ours”
Point 2 - Chapter 3 in v1 continues the address to the “beloved”, again, the elect
Point 3 - V9 is preceded by again being addressed to the “beloved”, again the elect
Point 4 - The 4 Greek-English Lexicons I have access to all indicate this is God’s will of decree, not the will of command.

Therefore, the “any” who God wills not to be lost, have to be any of the elect, OR, you have universal salvation. God is not pacing the halls of heaven indulging in ‘wishful thinking’! He has decreed who are the elect. SECRET TO US!

Article 17 of the 39 Articles (1571) of the Church of England begins: “Predestination to life is the everlasting purpose of God, whereby, before the foundations of the world were laid, He has constantly decreed by His counsel secret to us, to deliver from curse and damnation those whom He has chosen in Christ out of mankind, and to bring them by Christ to everlasting salvation as vessels made to honour.” https://www.crivoice.org/creed39.html

“And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;” (Rev 5:9, KJV)*The redeemed were redeemed OUT OF the world!

It has always amazed me why so many ignore who the epistles and letters of the NT were written to, the believers; and make it refer to every human in the world. I suppose you must do that to hold on to your man-made doctrines.

Why do you want to fight this particular battle? It is of no importance. We are obliged to preach as if anyone and everyone was a candidate for salvation. Not everyone accepts. Some resist for years and then receive Lord Jesus. One sows, another waters. God gives the increase. I heard my first gospel message at the age of 16. It was a Billy Graham crusade. I was born again just before my 21st birthday. The first gospel message did not take root. Nearly 5 years later, I was ready to respond.

While someone is alive, there is some hope that they may be saved. It is not our job to decide who is predestined and who is not. There is also another aspect I don't find is talked about. God's predestination is according to His foreknowledge. To me, that means God knows who will accept and who will reject Lord Jesus. So He predestines according to that knowledge.