KJVOnlyist lets learn together where this doctrine began :)

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You are totally avoiding my question. Are you incapable of giving me a reason why Nose ring is wrong and Ear Ring is right and why it is being raised as a point to prove the NIV, NKJV etc are evil?

I am not avoiding your question... nose ring is not in the KJV. The NIV, NKJV are full of garbage that's not in the KJV. What is your obsession with the nose ring. It comes from a false bible, what else would you expect.
 
I am not avoiding your question... nose ring is not in the KJV. The NIV, NKJV are full of garbage that's not in the KJV. What is your obsession with the nose ring. It comes from a false bible, what else would you expect.

I have proved to you that nose ring is the more accurate and correct translation, I have asked numerous times now why you think it is not the correct translation, yet at best all I have is "The NIV NKJV are full of garbage thats not in the KJV....... ...... It comes from a false bible"..

Really?

The reason I ask about Nose Ring, is that it is one of the more insignificant differences from the King James 1611 which you can not give any explination as to this difference, esepcailly when the evidence shows that Nose ring is the more accurate translation. The more heavier points are argued over and over with millions of cut and pastes and vidoes lasting for 100 pages over months of posting, but nothing is forthcoming with this point.

IF you can not explain the minor points, then how can I trust the main points? THe foundations are therefore shaky at best, If you ask someone what 3+3 is and they can not give a correct answer or explanation, then how can you trust them when they give lecture on advanced calculus?

This is the same for you, explain to me why nose ring is wrong, surly you must be able to explain such a simple change other than its just "one of those words which Satans bibles have".

You have to prove this, otherwise your house of cards will come tumbling down, seriously, you do have to explain why every difference of punctuation and every change of capital letter has been made to support your claim that the 1611 is the final perfect Bible.

Nose Ring is a correct translation. Prove me wrong.
 
The older mss have it the way the new translations do. You say God said it the way the Kjv does. How can you prove this? You can't. Closer to originals time wise is more reliable.

Reformedjason, We have a very old family Bible that says in the preface that it is the duplicate of the Bible that is in the Library of Congress, Washington DC

Here is a passage out of one of the older versions; Not sure which one, because the Bible is not in my possession at this time. I can check if you like.



"The same day went Jesus out of housse/and set by the sea syde/and much people resorted unto him/so greatly that he wet and sat in a shyype/and all the people stode on the shoore. And he spoke many thyngs to them in similituds/sayinge beholde/the sower went forth to sowe/and as he sowed/some fell by the waye syde/and the fowlls cam(me)/and devoured it uppe. Some fell upon stoney grounde where it had not moch groundeerthy/and anoon it spronge uppe/because it had not depth of erth: and when the son was uppe/it cauth heet/and for lake of rotynage waddred away/ Some fell amonge thornes/and the thornes arose/and chooked it. Part fell in goode grounde/and broght forth good frute. Some an hundred/some fyfty folde/some thyrty folde. whosoever hath eares to heare/let him heare. And his disiples ca(me)/and sayde to him: why speakest thou to them in parables: he answered and said unto them: bit is geven unto you to know the secretts of the kyngdome of heven/but to them it is nott given. For whomsoever hath/to him shall it be geven and he shall have abundance: but whosover hath nott: from him shall be takyn awaye eve that same that he hath."

Isa.46.10, Ps.139.4, God knew what version of his word would surface and flourish in the first time and place of the freedom to read it to the hearts content, why would he let a version of his word surface and stand alone and build this nations churches that said not to trust human wisdom, that it was foolishness to God, if that were not true? If all the time that has been spent on trying to do the impossible (improve it) had been spent trying to find it's meaning God's way(Jas.1.5-6, 2 Tim.2.15), the wisdom that was hidden from the wise and prudent would have been found by them, but alas, it has NOT. If one shred of new wisdom has been found in searching for a better translation, then perhaps you will share that with those of us who did NOT trust the foolishness of human wisdom.

By the way, you have heard the expression "the proof is in the pudding"? When the Lord returns to "judge the quick and the dead"(2 Tim.4.1), and his words are quickened, you will see how it is that "the words Jesus spoke, the SAME will judge us in the last day"(Jn.9.39, Dan. 7.26, Jn.12.48-31).
 
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New or old, understanding starts in faith not in arguing over versions of the bible. Truthfully, the land is barren in both. How can a person be by grace and toil over what they see with their eyes?
 
I have proved to you that nose ring is the more accurate and correct translation, I have asked numerous times now why you think it is not the correct translation, yet at best all I have is "The NIV NKJV are full of garbage thats not in the KJV....... ...... It comes from a false bible"..

Really?

The reason I ask about Nose Ring, is that it is one of the more insignificant differences from the King James 1611 which you can not give any explination as to this difference, esepcailly when the evidence shows that Nose ring is the more accurate translation. The more heavier points are argued over and over with millions of cut and pastes and vidoes lasting for 100 pages over months of posting, but nothing is forthcoming with this point.

IF you can not explain the minor points, then how can I trust the main points? THe foundations are therefore shaky at best, If you ask someone what 3+3 is and they can not give a correct answer or explanation, then how can you trust them when they give lecture on advanced calculus?

This is the same for you, explain to me why nose ring is wrong, surly you must be able to explain such a simple change other than its just "one of those words which Satans bibles have".

You have to prove this, otherwise your house of cards will come tumbling down, seriously, you do have to explain why every difference of punctuation and every change of capital letter has been made to support your claim that the 1611 is the final perfect Bible.

Nose Ring is a correct translation. Prove me wrong.

Agricola I appreciate your persistence on this. I have always wondered what these gifts symbolized and your persistence has forced me to dig it out.

Gen 24:47 And I asked her, and said, Whose daughter art thou? And she said, The daughter of Bethuel, Nahor's son, whom Milcah bare unto him: and I put the earring upon her face, and the bracelets upon her hands.

You probably don't know this but Rebekah is symbolic of the bride of Christ. When the servant, symbolic of the Holy Spirit, finds the bride of Christ he gives her gifts. One of the gifts he gave was the earring. What does an earring symbolize in the bible?

Pro 25:12 As an earring of gold, and an ornament of fine gold, so is a wise reprover upon an obedient ear.

The earring of gold represents a wise reprover - the inerrant word of God.

2Ti_3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:


What does a nose ring symbolize? From the website livestrong.com.

Nose rings, which have symbolic meaning in Indian, African and some Muslim cultures, are gaining popularity in other areas of the world as well. In fact, in the United States, nose piercing may be seen as an act of rebellion against conservative values.

Read more: What Is The Meaning Of A Ring In The Nose? | LIVESTRONG.COM

The correct translation is EARRING!
 
New or old, understanding starts in faith not in arguing over versions of the bible. Truthfully, the land is barren in both. How can a person be by grace and toil over what they see with their eyes?

You are right that faith is required, but James 1.21"-- receive with meekness the engrafted word that is able to save your soul" takes eyes or ears. Frankly, if you were familiar with the whole word of God that Jesus said we live by(Matt.4.4), you would know it is an error not to defend the version he ordained. All the other versions do is the same that all the tapes and books that are sold to show us what God means by what he says, they dilute the power of God's word engrafted. Why do you think it is called a flood out of the serpents mouth(Rev.12.15)? I am here because I did familiarize myself with the whole word of God, as after reading James 1.5-6 and praying for wisdom, was drawn to do.
 
so if i say that the KJV bible is the closes to the truth than the rest of the bibles i'm a kjvonlist or whatever? who even makes us these things if you ask me it's pretty silly...

Josh, I see you are young, please do yourself a favor and do NOT under estimate the power of the Devil to draw you away from the very thing your heart desires. Get yourself a book that has the scripture comparasons, and you will see all the other Bibles do is re arrange the wording in the KJV, and also use other words that have the same meaning as often as possible, so to the new Believer, they say the same thing, but make it easier to read, but Almighty God brought out the version in the first time and place of the freedom to read it to the hearts content that carries a certain nomenclature/speech pattern that is a sort of code. Once you develope familiarity with the whole word of God, it works like a puzzle, and the pieces that make up a whole scene/concept go together in your mind. James 1.5-6 tells us to ask God for wisdom with faith to receive it, and 2 Tim.2.15 says, study to show yourself approved of God, so it is no presumption that you do not study to gain wisdom, you study to gain approval, then wisdom is by granting of God. Grant it, the KJV is difficult to read at the beginning, but that is by God's design, to hide the wisdom from the enemies of the truth, and reveal it to the truly faithful. Don't forget, that Satan appears as the angel of light(2 Cor.11-4-13-15).

By the way Friend, your avatar picture is not a picture of the true Jesus Christ, see Isa.53.2, then google "Serpas". We are very near the time when the Rev.22.11 invisible line will be drawn, so please consider this advice a "cup of cold water in Jesus name"(Matt.10.42).


God's grace to you

M Glory
 
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