frequent consumption of energy drinks may increase risks of heart problems,high blood pressure,sleep disruption,and dental damage.give me a bottle of water over that anyday.
Let's Have a Very Controversial (But Serious) Conversation About: Energy Drinks. Red Bull Gives You Wings - And Possibly a Heart Attack?
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Caffeine is naturally occurring. I drank vast amounts of coffee for decades without any issues. I could sleep well, my blood pressure was fine etc. When I got to my late 60's, my dear wife prayed for me because she thought I was drinking too much. Overnight I lost my taste for coffee. Now I drink tea, which is not caffeine free. It is less per drink.
When you start making things illegal, you encourage the wrong behaviour. Education is a better option. Then they have no excuse when they decide to ignore the advice. Parents should be talking to their kids. There should be controls on how caffeine containing products are advertised.
What is not always appreciated is that a cup of coffee likely contains more caffeine than a Red Bull.
When you start making things illegal, you encourage the wrong behaviour. Education is a better option. Then they have no excuse when they decide to ignore the advice. Parents should be talking to their kids. There should be controls on how caffeine containing products are advertised.
What is not always appreciated is that a cup of coffee likely contains more caffeine than a Red Bull.
Don't do caffeine , don't usuay drink fizzy drinks either but , it's been very hot here in the UK so I bought some 7up pink lemonade , no sugar , no caffiene . Hubby decide to give up coffee / caffiene a few years ago as he realised he was getting a bit manic ( more than usual
) and always thinking about his next cup . He limited himself to four a day but hot around that by making each cup stronger and stronger , then he read that caffiene can impede a males ' performance ' if u get my drift . That was I , he gave it up totally and I did also , in support of him . I now drink decaffcoff , he drinks camomile and spearmint tea when we want a hot drink and water the rest of the time . Occasionally a fuzzy drink if it's caffiene and sugar free and , we both sleep like babies every night . If u r using caffiene to support u because u r sleep deprived then u might need to ask yourself , is the caffiene causing the sleep deprivation in the first place ?
Is very hard to be around coffee addicts...or vapers/smokers
They can't think of anything but their next hit.
I had a friend like that --note 'had' --- in the end I had to literally distance myself from her as she wouldn't give up. She gave in everytime. She was sucking that vape like an inhaler, and the amount of times she was talking about coffee when she didn't have one...arrgh
I realised in the past that I was like an enabler for her habit when she'd ask me to go out for coffee at a cafe. Like everytime she wanted to see me she would ask to go to a cafe where they served coffee. It got to be ridiculous. She was racking up points on her coffee card, and not only that, every time she'd order a cake or a sugary muffin and that would be her lunch.
I had to face the hard truth that she wasn't actually friends with me she was using me to fuel her coffee habits. I wasn't buying her coffee most of the time but I was being her companion and excuse to go out for one.
They can't think of anything but their next hit.
I had a friend like that --note 'had' --- in the end I had to literally distance myself from her as she wouldn't give up. She gave in everytime. She was sucking that vape like an inhaler, and the amount of times she was talking about coffee when she didn't have one...arrgh
I realised in the past that I was like an enabler for her habit when she'd ask me to go out for coffee at a cafe. Like everytime she wanted to see me she would ask to go to a cafe where they served coffee. It got to be ridiculous. She was racking up points on her coffee card, and not only that, every time she'd order a cake or a sugary muffin and that would be her lunch.
I had to face the hard truth that she wasn't actually friends with me she was using me to fuel her coffee habits. I wasn't buying her coffee most of the time but I was being her companion and excuse to go out for one.
Hmm maybe I should pray for her. Actually I have prayed for her in other areas but not this specific one. One time she did give up smoking and that was great but she has since relapsed. The coffee thing though is abnormal.
Also workmates often drank coffee in their breaks to stay alert.
Also workmates often drank coffee in their breaks to stay alert.
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I don't drink coffee or tea. I get a lot of caffeine from the ton of diet pepsi that I drink each day. I would drink caffeine free diet pepsi but the y don't sell that in the plastic bottles where I live.
I've never had an energy drink. When they first appeared on the market a good friend gave me two cans of the stuff. I took them to be polite and threw them away. I wasn't interested in a beverage whose purpose was to pump you full of caffeine.
I've never had an energy drink. When they first appeared on the market a good friend gave me two cans of the stuff. I took them to be polite and threw them away. I wasn't interested in a beverage whose purpose was to pump you full of caffeine.
For those who don't want to waste more than an hour watching this video, I will summarize it for you. "THEY ARE CONTROLLING YOU!!!" That's basically all there is to it.
It's a load of fear mongering crap. The only benefit it gives is to the person who posted the video, because he gets a big boost to his pride, believing he is sharing secret, hidden knowledge to the ignorant masses.
Sorry WiselyWoven. I don't know much about you at all, and I don't intend to cast aspersions on you personally. But that's all this video is good for.
Your opinion is noted. As per your post #7, you are obviously into coffee.
However, I have firsthand knowledge of how you are indeed being conditioned and manipulated. Your expected response is but one example.
I studied subliminal embeds in advertising at the university level. The video is a simple primer for beginners such as you. However, most will discard anything that does not line up with their conditioning.
Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief.
It's the same with the agenda behind "energy drinks."
Wait, what? Who said I was into coffee?
That was a funny comic I once read, and have since remembered and reposted on this forum multiple times. I don't personally like coffee.
I have taken care to not extrapolate negative aspersions and assumptions against you personally. Please return the consideration.
Finland is probably one of the biggest coffee-drinking countries in the world. Or at least it feels that way. Coffee is everywhere here, especially at work. Many workplaces even provide it for free. There's morning coffee, mid-morning coffee, lunch coffee, afternoon coffee, evening coffee... and then another cup just because someone feels like it.
I used to be a complete coffee addict. Drinking an entire pot in a day wasn't unusual. I constantly felt either exhausted or overstimulated and if I didn't get my coffee, I'd end up with a terrible migraine. Looking back, I was clearly dependent on caffeine. I also always wanted something sweet with my coffee, so the sugar habit went hand in hand with the caffeine.
Everything changed when I unexpectedly spent two weeks in Africa. I was told I wouldn't be able to get coffee there, so I packed a small jar of instant coffee and some shelf-stable milk. They didn't last long. Then what I believe was caffeine withdrawal hit. For four days I had a pounding migraine, shaking, sweating and felt absolutely miserable. There wasn't even Coca-Cola or other caffeinated drinks where I was staying. Ironically, I later found out coffee was available. I just never thought to ask!
After those four days, I felt better than I had in years. Since then, I've mostly stopped drinking coffee. I might have an occasional cup, but I much prefer herbal tea now.
I also tried an energy drink once a few summers ago on my drive to work. I felt like the Energizer Bunny. I couldn't stop moving. Instead of doing my office work, I ended up helping everyone in the kitchen, working at double speed. My heart was racing and when the caffeine rush wore off, I started sweating. My manager asked if I was okay and when I admitted I'd had an energy drink, he immediately said, "Don't ever drink one again."
I haven't touched one since. I guess caffeine and I just aren't a good combination anymore.
I used to be a complete coffee addict. Drinking an entire pot in a day wasn't unusual. I constantly felt either exhausted or overstimulated and if I didn't get my coffee, I'd end up with a terrible migraine. Looking back, I was clearly dependent on caffeine. I also always wanted something sweet with my coffee, so the sugar habit went hand in hand with the caffeine.
Everything changed when I unexpectedly spent two weeks in Africa. I was told I wouldn't be able to get coffee there, so I packed a small jar of instant coffee and some shelf-stable milk. They didn't last long. Then what I believe was caffeine withdrawal hit. For four days I had a pounding migraine, shaking, sweating and felt absolutely miserable. There wasn't even Coca-Cola or other caffeinated drinks where I was staying. Ironically, I later found out coffee was available. I just never thought to ask!
After those four days, I felt better than I had in years. Since then, I've mostly stopped drinking coffee. I might have an occasional cup, but I much prefer herbal tea now.
I also tried an energy drink once a few summers ago on my drive to work. I felt like the Energizer Bunny. I couldn't stop moving. Instead of doing my office work, I ended up helping everyone in the kitchen, working at double speed. My heart was racing and when the caffeine rush wore off, I started sweating. My manager asked if I was okay and when I admitted I'd had an energy drink, he immediately said, "Don't ever drink one again."
I haven't touched one since. I guess caffeine and I just aren't a good combination anymore.
Here's relevant news for our UK members.
July 17,2026 Dental experts celebrate energy drink ban as official timeline set
Hope they don't party too hard celebrating it. The powers-that-be haven't actually DONE anything yet.
Have you seen or read 'Valley of the Dolls' ?
Back in the 1960s, and even prior almost, everyone was on drugs. They went to their doctor, saying they were tired and the doctor would prescribe them energy pills like benzedrine, adderall, and amphetamines to keep their patient awake and alert. They'd swallow the pills with a glass of water and it would dissolve in their body and provide them with an instant energy boost.
I mean, they COULD have drunken 10 cups of Maxwell's coffee or whatever but what happens when that doesn't work anymore? Who carries 10 cups of coffee on their person and who has access to hot water and cups all the time?
When they could just have a bottle of pills in their handbag, jacket pocket or whatever and take them with water every time they went to the bathroom?
Back in the 1960s, and even prior almost, everyone was on drugs. They went to their doctor, saying they were tired and the doctor would prescribe them energy pills like benzedrine, adderall, and amphetamines to keep their patient awake and alert. They'd swallow the pills with a glass of water and it would dissolve in their body and provide them with an instant energy boost.
I mean, they COULD have drunken 10 cups of Maxwell's coffee or whatever but what happens when that doesn't work anymore? Who carries 10 cups of coffee on their person and who has access to hot water and cups all the time?
When they could just have a bottle of pills in their handbag, jacket pocket or whatever and take them with water every time they went to the bathroom?
I've also read stories about how child actors like Judy Garland were put on all kinds of substances as kids to keep them awake for filming whenever and however long directors wanted -- putting her on the trajectory of lifelong drug abuse.
Supposedly there are regulations today but I know nothing is to be trusted. Models, who are discovered as young teens and considered old and haggard by the time they're 20, have tons of stories of rampant substance abuse to keep up with impossible schedules.
When I was growing up in a small town, people who used substances were seen as being "from the wrong side of the tracks."
Now days, it's everyday people just trying to make it through the day.
I was struck by the story of a manager I worked with who told me he and his wife both suffered from chronic pain from their jobs (lots of lifting, etc.,) and found that street drugs gave them some relief for a lot less money than prescriptions. But of course, now they were having problems with addiction and were in rehab programs trying to get clean.
These weren't people "from the wrong side of the tracks" -- they were a married couple in their 30's with kids and just trying to get by.
I know there are all kinds of arguments as to whether energy drink can be a gateway drug or not, but for my own self, I've just stayed away from them, knowing I'd get too dependent on supposed "sudden boosts of energy."
Well, the city can be a rat race.
I think in a small town the pace of life is slower and better for people but it doesn't mean it doesn't have its challenges. And working in manual jobs, and being a manager can be stressful and take it out of you.
Here in NZ energy drinks are sold in dairies and gas stations (corner stores or 7-11s/convenience stores) for people on the go. But the cans just look like beer cans to me, even though Red Bull is in those skinny cans, and V looks similar to a can of sprite.
There's also a drink called 'up and go' thats pretty much a sugary flavoured milkshake but meant to have a lot of minerals and vitamins in it for people who haven't had breakfast and need a hit right there and then.
I think in a small town the pace of life is slower and better for people but it doesn't mean it doesn't have its challenges. And working in manual jobs, and being a manager can be stressful and take it out of you.
Here in NZ energy drinks are sold in dairies and gas stations (corner stores or 7-11s/convenience stores) for people on the go. But the cans just look like beer cans to me, even though Red Bull is in those skinny cans, and V looks similar to a can of sprite.
There's also a drink called 'up and go' thats pretty much a sugary flavoured milkshake but meant to have a lot of minerals and vitamins in it for people who haven't had breakfast and need a hit right there and then.
Speaking on wrong side of the tracks, as the train runs through my town/city, I haven't noticed really as I just live in the west which apparently the entire Westside is the 'wrong' side of town lol
No actually, West is Best as we say. I'm a Westie.
No actually, West is Best as we say. I'm a Westie.