Lucifer's fall
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It means our fleshly nature is satan, if you can see it, most do not
Agreed. Not sure why some deny but I've heard it said myself.
Actually Lucifer is Jesus, Lucifer means the Bright and Morning Star- which Jesus is. That passage is speaking sarcastically, and is often misinterpreted. It is as if I said to someone “Roll out a red carpet for to walk.” And they replied “Oh yes Queen OneFaith, would you like me to feed you grapes as well? You think you are royal, but you are no better than I.”
As for what year Satan was kicked out of heaven, I don’t know how long Adam and Eve had lived on the earth before they sinned, but Satan fell to the earth sometime between creation and Adam and Eve’s first bite of the forbidden fruit.
As for what year Satan was kicked out of heaven, I don’t know how long Adam and Eve had lived on the earth before they sinned, but Satan fell to the earth sometime between creation and Adam and Eve’s first bite of the forbidden fruit.
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In my opinion, whom Isaiah 14:12 is referring to as Lucifer is the beasts new world order, which at first will have the whole faithless world loving its system, but at the end falls apart.
Isaiah 14:12 [FONT="]How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations![/FONT]
Son of the morning light= Son of the illumined new world order
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Since this response to posted question is absolutely fabricated conjecture, then it would seem to me it would have been in the beginning, which would be the first year?
The best I can conjecture is Satan wouldn't have been cast of the eternal Kingdom of God until heaven and earth was created cause there really wouldn't have been any other place God could have cast them.
And heaven and earth couldn't have been created until after the eternal God slayed his only begotten since that is clearly written in Revelations 13:8 that the foundation of the world could only occur by the Lamb being slayed since it is written "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."
But anyways, like usual, Satan just happened to be going to and fro and up and down in the Kingdom and showed up a few minutes before time began which would could only happen outside of the eternal Kingdom of God has no beginning of existence nor end therefore no real reason to keep time.
But from what I thought I heard from reading was that Satan walked over and looking upon the Lamb made the some comment about the only begotten had different sized balls. Don't have a clue what that meant but someone told me once that they imagined that Satan really didn't mean anything by it and probably wouldn't have said anything if it was for him drinking real heavy that day.
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They say if you click the picture you can hear the song
that was being sung when Satan and his angels were being driven
They say if you click the picture you can hear the song
that was being sung when Satan and his angels were being driven
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My view....he fell before creation in Genesis 1:2.............there is evidence that the adversary was already here in Genesis.......regardless of the arguments for and against listed above......
and JESUS did say that he beheld SATAN as lightning fall from HEAVEN...........so....................................!
and JESUS did say that he beheld SATAN as lightning fall from HEAVEN...........so....................................!
Man..... Simply unbelievable. Now satan isn't a created, fallen ,angelic individual!?
Where oh where does the allegories end?
Perhaps God is just an allegory or His Son.
The more interesting question to those that aren't allegorizing everything is, since satan had access to presumably the Throneroom, and certainly God's Presence in Job's time, when did he lose that access?
Where oh where does the allegories end?
Perhaps God is just an allegory or His Son.
The more interesting question to those that aren't allegorizing everything is, since satan had access to presumably the Throneroom, and certainly God's Presence in Job's time, when did he lose that access?
[video=youtube;fUamaI1BlYQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUamaI1BlYQ&sns=em[/video]
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I saw that...
Just as bad as the other though......yer got to stay away from dispensationalists.
Yer might want to unlike this...
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It means our fleshly nature is satan, if you can see it, most do not
Are you serious, or are you joking? ????
This is precisely the problem when scripture is taken out of it's context and the eisegesis takes over.
There is no logical reason to take Isa 14:12 out of the context and Nebuchadnezzar and claim that the prophet is waxing eloquently about the "fall of satan".
The context is exactly the point: and that is why it is clear that it is talking about Satan and not just about Nebuchadnezzar.
That has already been shown in earlier posts.