Mark 10:9 what GOD has joined together.....even for bad marriages?

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JohnB

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Hope deferred makes the heart sick, but a dream fulfilled is a tree of life. Proverbs 13:12...at this point all he had was a promise from GOD, but had seen NOTHING to lead to a fulfilling of it. He had been waiting decades. I can understand his frustration.
Benson Commentary
Proverbs 13:12. Hope deferred maketh the heart sick — The delay of that which a man eagerly desires and expects is such an affliction, that it differs little from a lingering disease; but when the desire cometh — When the good desired and expected is obtained. It is a tree of life — That is, most sweet, satisfactory, and reviving to the soul.
 
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Having work done on my house, to show I have something to offer.
I dont mean the material things I mean what fruit are you growing? Who are you as a person? Is marriage to you all about relieving your sexual drive?
Do you realise it is no longer all about you and now you have some responsibilities towards her, are you willing to step up?
 

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Hope deferred makes the heart sick, but a dream fulfilled is a tree of life. Proverbs 13:12...at this point all he had was a promise from GOD, but had seen NOTHING to lead to a fulfilling of it. He had been waiting decades. I can understand his frustration.
His waiting should have been in hope, not exasperation. God singularly came to him and poured out His affections on him. He spoke to him personally and audibly. God made a habit of meeting him regularly. God continually blessed him and rescued him from his troubles. Abraham enjoyed a life like few others.
But Abraham was a man of like passions as us. And just as he had difficulty waiting on the Lord, so do you and most people. Your waiting, unfortunately, has made you bitter.

Not sure if God's plan includes a wife in your future or not. But even if God provided one, based on the things you have related, you would not be a very good husband. Successful marriages aren't about what an individual wants. It's about what the other person wants. In denying yourself, you bless your mate as your desire now becomes whatever her desire is. In meeting her desire, she finds life in you. It is only in dying to self that causes others to live.
No one can live selflessly this way apart from the life of Christ in them. And that won't happen until you are satisfied in Him alone. You are trying to find satisfaction in a wife. You will not find it there. Only God can satisfy the deepest longings of the human heart. He made us this way on purpose and for our highest good. The greatest thing God can give us is Himself. That's why He told Abraham...I will be your reward.
My advice is to seek after God with all your heart. If you do, you will surely find Him. And you will find Him to be all satisfying.
 

JohnB

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His waiting should have been in hope, not exasperation. God singularly came to him and poured out His affections on him. He spoke to him personally and audibly. God made a habit of meeting him regularly. God continually blessed him and rescued him from his troubles. Abraham enjoyed a life like few others.
But Abraham was a man of like passions as us. And just as he had difficulty waiting on the Lord, so do you and most people. Your waiting, unfortunately, has made you bitter.

Not sure if God's plan includes a wife in your future or not. But even if God provided one, based on the things you have related, you would not be a very good husband. Successful marriages aren't about what an individual wants. It's about what the other person wants. In denying yourself, you bless your mate as your desire now becomes whatever her desire is. In meeting her desire, she finds life in you. It is only in dying to self that causes others to live.
No one can live selflessly this way apart from the life of Christ in them. And that won't happen until you are satisfied in Him alone. You are trying to find satisfaction in a wife. You will not find it there. Only God can satisfy the deepest longings of the human heart. He made us this way on purpose and for our highest good. The greatest thing God can give us is Himself. That's why He told Abraham...I will be your reward.
My advice is to seek after God with all your heart. If you do, you will surely find Him. And you will find Him to be all satisfying.
You don't see Abraham's frustration and GOD's reaction?
 

JohnB

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I dont mean the material things I mean what fruit are you growing? Who are you as a person? Is marriage to you all about relieving your sexual drive?
Do you realise it is no longer all about you and now you have some responsibilities towards her, are you willing to step up?
When dating, you need to bring something to the table. I was on a path for a nice retirement, had a nice savings. Than GOD called me to take care of my mother (she had dementia)....my siblings did little to nothing to help. GOD even told me that when I started caring for her. "Your siblings will not help you and I'm not promising you anything" Nothing left of my retirement money now. Try dating when your main source of retirement is Social Security and part time work. GOD finally came through with a blessing. An angel (friend) gave me almost $10,000. It was enough to lift me out of scraping by. Had I been allowed to stay on my path, when I had a job, I would have a very nice retirement and wouldn't have to work.

A person may plan his own journey, but the LORD directs his steps Proverbs 16:9
 

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But even if God provided one, based on the things you have related, you would not be a very good husband.
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This.


As a women I concur, sad but true and blind to this fact does not help.
It behooves us to examine what people have discerned about our character and work on bettering ourselves.
If we don't think there is a problem we will not be open to change and allowing God's Spirit within us to transform us.
 

JohnB

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^^^^
This.


As a women I concur, sad but true and blind to this fact does not help.
It behooves us to examine what people have discerned about our character and work on bettering ourselves.
If we don't think there is a problem we will not be open to change and allowing God's Spirit within us to transform us.
You don't know that. All the women I've gone out with or met, I paid for everything. My responsibility was to please her first.
 

Cameron143

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You don't see Abraham's frustration and GOD's reaction?
God didn't change His timetable for Abraham. And you seem to have missed my point. While I do feel badly for you, you continue to ignore the very advice that will help you.
Habakkuk was also frustrated with God--first with His silence and then with His actions. In the end, however, he learns to be content and even joyful, despite his conditions changing for the worse. Perhaps you could benefit from learning the lessons Habakkuk learned.
I'll continue to pray for you.
 

HeIsHere

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You don't know that. All the women I've gone out with or met, I paid for everything. My responsibility was to please her first.

Oh if relationships/marriage were that easy!!

Opening you wallet is really not very hard to do.
 

JohnB

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God didn't change His timetable for Abraham. And you seem to have missed my point. While I do feel badly for you, you continue to ignore the very advice that will help you.
Habakkuk was also frustrated with God--first with His silence and then with His actions. In the end, however, he learns to be content and even joyful, despite his conditions changing for the worse. Perhaps you could benefit from learning the lessons Habakkuk learned.
I'll continue to pray for you.
Habakkuk was told to marry a prostitute. He was against it because of his beliefs. Once he married her and got to know her, he loved her anyway. it wasn't until AFTER he married her, he changed.
 

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Here's a good resource on the topic of the thread.

 

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Mark 10:9 "Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”....even for bad marriages? I can understand any physical abuse, but if you just cannot stand the other person? Or their attitudes and habits are destroying the family? I know in the Old Testament there are protections for the wife, if she is being treated badly.
:) without saying "Christ" define love? Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

So based on just your question love endures all things and love is patient. Love does not return evil for evil. I am fully aware of the cost of doing this. And Amen @Ted01 a promise not to my wife only but to my GOD first and foremost. No matter what I do think say Christ never leaves. To know what He says about Israel and and example of the wife selling herself to other men ...He goes waits in line and then buys her back. Whats sad is marriages have not been growing but getting less and less all over the world.

Now for some the past is the past we can not change it and we never look back forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before. Christ has forgiven forgot so should we not feel condemned.
 

Cameron143

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Habakkuk was told to marry a prostitute. He was against it because of his beliefs. Once he married her and got to know her, he loved her anyway. it wasn't until AFTER he married her, he changed.
You are thinking of Hosea. I'm trying to help you but it seems you would rather complain than actually learn.
Habakkuk teaches that the just shall walk by faith and that we can live well and worsh
 

Cameron143

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You are thinking of Hosea. I'm trying to help you but it seems you would rather complain than actually learn.
Habakkuk teaches that the just shall walk by faith and that we can live well and worsh
This should have ended....and we can live well and worshipping regardless of our circumstances.
 

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Habakkuk was told to marry a prostitute. He was against it because of his beliefs. Once he married her and got to know her, he loved her anyway. it wasn't until AFTER he married her, he changed.
The story of Hosea and gomers marriage is also the same as The people who broke Gods Convenant.

Chosen people who God would restore through his covenant, through his love and mercy he still decided to redeem the lost in Isreal through his convenant.

The same thing could be said for hosea and gomer
God wanted Hosea to redeem a lost women who would be unfaithful to him.

Just like Isreal was his chosen people under a convenant similar to marriage, God was still trying to redeem them through a convenant, similar to marriage even tho they would still be unfaithful to him. 😊